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Cape man buoys theory missile downed jet (TWA Flight 800)
Boston Herald ^ | Tuesday, July 18, 2006 | Joe Dwinell

Posted on 07/18/2006 7:13:58 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia

Cape man buoys theory missile downed jet By Joe Dwinell

A Bay State physicist is taking on the National Transportation Safety Board in federal court in Boston to help bolster his theory a missile is to blame for taking down TWA Flight 800 a decade ago.

“I don’t want this 10-year anniversary to go by without paying attention to this plausible theory,” said Tom Stalcup, a Falmouth resident who holds a doctorate in physics and heads up the Flight 800 Independent Researchers Organization.

Flight 800 exploded and crashed in the sea south of Long Island, N.Y., at 3 p.m. on July 17, 1996.

Stalcup’s group, linked mostly by the Internet, has filed a complaint in U.S. District Court in Boston seeking documents relating to the crash, including a “wreckage item” that exited the plane’s airframe at “apparent supersonic speeds.”

Stalcup alleges the Navy recovered this “smoking gun” wreckage.

Federal officials say the crash was an accident - not a missile strike from a Navy exercise or anything else


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anniversary; callingartbell; conspiracytheory; fearuncertaintydoubt; nutjob; terrorism; twa800; twaflight800
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If one listens to the air traffic control tapes before, during, and after the event, not one pilot mentions a missile or something coming up from the ground. They all report a sudden explosion in the sky followed by a flaming object following into the sea.


61 posted on 07/18/2006 7:47:03 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

We aren't the only nation in the world with a Navy that has missiles.


62 posted on 07/18/2006 7:47:21 PM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable when it comes to aviation disasters. They will swear till the day they die what they "saw" is true even when other evidence, including photos or videos, has proved them wrong.


63 posted on 07/18/2006 7:48:39 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: Alberta's Child

but this was a civilian incident.

sure, many naval personalle kept quiet about alot of incidents we had with russian subs during the cold war. but keeping quiet about that, is different then keeping quiet about wasting a bunch of civilians.


64 posted on 07/18/2006 7:49:07 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: aviator

off the coast of long island?


65 posted on 07/18/2006 7:49:58 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

And I was in a nuclear missile unit in Germany that was called out on alert one hour before JFK was shot in Dallas. I was walking by the com truck when the flash came over the teletype "Shots fired at the presidential motorcade in Dallas". I S### you not.


66 posted on 07/18/2006 7:49:58 PM PDT by ArtyFO (I love to smoke cigars when I adjust artillery fire.)
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To: COEXERJ145
Wrong, the initial explosion occurred at over 15,000 feet. The detonation of the wing fuel tanks occurred around 5,500 feet.

Secondly, IR missiles would not have caused the center fuel tank to explode. An IR missile would have taken off an engine at most.

I see you are another one that likes to pee on the tin foil parade.

You do realize you are causing emotional distress by talking facts / reality?

How rude of you.

67 posted on 07/18/2006 7:50:47 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: LasVegasMac

And I take great pleasure in it.


68 posted on 07/18/2006 7:51:16 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: COEXERJ145

Correct. I read quickly. It was at 14,000 which is within a stinger's range. The engines on a 747 are on the wing. If a Stinger hit an engine/wing are you saying it couldn't cause the fully loaded fuel tanks to explode?


69 posted on 07/18/2006 7:51:28 PM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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To: oceanview; COEXERJ145; ElkGroveDan
could a terrorist missile with that range have been fired from a boat off the coast?

Raytheon Electronic Systems FIM-92 Stinger low-altitude surface-to-air missile system family

(FIM-92A) 3,500 m (conversion to 11,483 feet)
(FIM-92B/C) 3,800 m (conversion to 12,467 feet)
IR/UV homing
Warhead: 1 kg HE blast smooth-case fragmentation with time-delay contact fuze
Max speed: M2.2

In April 1990, Raytheon received a US$45.1 million contract to produce 1,383 missiles. In the following year General Dynamics reverted to the sole source supplier. The US Army requirement was for 29,108 FIM-92C Stinger-RMP rounds with last funding for procurement being provided in FY92. In FY92, an upgrade contract was placed to improve the FIM-92A/B/C performance against the latest countermeasures. Known as the FIM-92D Block 1 rounds, modifications were made to the RMP software to see its low-signature targets such as UAVs, cruise missiles and light helicopters in even more cluttered countermeasures environments. A ring-laser gyro roll sensor and a lithium battery are also fitted. First production deliveries were made of the Stinger Block 1 rounds in 1995.

If we had them, who's to say there weren't manpads on the black market in 96?

70 posted on 07/18/2006 7:52:37 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: maine-iac7
Just keep in mind those in our government ignored increasingly open and deadly attacks by Muslim fanatics since at least 1979. This to me is just one more in the string. If it had been a US anything they would have faced it paid for it and been done with it. This still reeks, almost as much as Oklahoma City.Personally I think the guy responsible there is on Trial in Iraq today for other crimes.

W
71 posted on 07/18/2006 7:52:42 PM PDT by WLR ("fugit impius nemine persequente iustus autem quasi leo confidens absque terrore erit")
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To: Alberta's Child
Well I don't believe people of good consciences would not speak up.I do think there was a coverup and I don't know why.
72 posted on 07/18/2006 7:52:59 PM PDT by fatima (You can read History or make it,fatima)
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To: woofie

He no longers stands for the American Way so he'd probably have no qualms about taking out an American airliner...


73 posted on 07/18/2006 7:53:13 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
The wing tanks didn't explode until after the detonation of the center fuel tank.

If you remember, there was an A300B4F that was hit over Baghdad by an SA-7 (basically the Russian version of the Stinger) and it didn't go boom. It lost an engine and suffered damage to the wing but it managed to land.

74 posted on 07/18/2006 7:53:20 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: DesScorp; oceanview

I agree with you guys about the U.S. Navy not being involved in this. I could be convinced, if they were capable militarily at the time, of the Chinese doing this.

What is the timeline of this in relation to our bombing their embassy?


75 posted on 07/18/2006 7:53:59 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is hard. It's really hard when you're stupid.)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia

Based on eye witnesses accounts anyone who pays attention has already concluded what the truth about Flight 800 is. Not that an effort shouldn't be made to bring out the truth but I'm wondering what does anyone expect to gain from the Gov admitting that they covered up the fact that a missile took out the plane? I seriously doubt that anyone complicit in the cover up will be held accountable or that the gov will compensate those who lost loved ones? Come on, this corrupt gov of today will never relent no matter what evidence is laid before them. There will never be justice in this matter, at least not on this earth.


76 posted on 07/18/2006 7:54:04 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: LasVegasMac

I beg to differ that an object exited the airframe at supersonic velocity under any scenario under discussion.

Sonic velocity is limiting unless one creates a convergent-divergent nozzle with which to impart the supersonic velocity. That particular structure is not there for this case.


77 posted on 07/18/2006 7:54:26 PM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
TWA 800: TIMELINE AND LOCATION OF MAJOR EVENTS

8:31:47 explosion of Massive Fireball at 5500-7500 feet.

8:31:55-8:31:57 splashdown.

Try my (Swordmaker's) more detailed timeline.

78 posted on 07/18/2006 7:55:02 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: PajamaTruthMafia
WABC radio news the other day said the conspiracy theorists are saying that the US government downed TWA Flight 800.....not a single mention of a terrorist plot.

There have been numerous comments by elected officials counting TWA #800 as a terror attack.

79 posted on 07/18/2006 7:55:56 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: COEXERJ145
not one pilot mentions a missile or something coming up from the ground.

Streak of light over TWA crash site probably a meteor

November 19, 1996
Web posted at: 1:45 p.m. EST

NEW YORK (CNN) -- A streak sighted by an airline co-pilot this weekend in the skies above the TWA Flight 800 crash site "very likely" was a meteor, the FBI and an astronomer said Monday.

The FBI interviewed the Pakistan International Airlines co-pilot, identified as Nasir Aziz, when he arrived in Frankfurt, Germany, and said he was the only person on the jumbo jet who reported seeing the light.

The Pentagon issued a statement Monday confirming there were no military exercises under way in the area.

A meteor? Everyone else is accused of seeing fireworks. Or being drunk.

80 posted on 07/18/2006 7:59:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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