Posted on 07/25/2006 8:40:08 AM PDT by jveritas
Edited on 07/25/2006 9:20:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Document http://70.168.46.200/Released/07-24-06/ISGQ-2005-00022470.pdf that was written sometimes after the Iraq war talks about an Iraqi dissident named “Abu Abdallah” who says that Iraqi WMD were moved to Syria before the war on the month of 10 Mouharam (Islamic calendar) i.e. March 10. The document was apparently reviewed by the Department of Defense as you the word D.O.D (in Latin letters) written on the side of the document.
Beginning of the translation http://70.168.46.200/Released/07-24-06/ISGQ-2005-00022470.pdf
Dear Respected Sir
Warm salute… and then
To review with regards and please and return the document to Mrs. Mona after the translation with thanks.
Signature
Abu Abdallah
13/7
To the Respected Responsible for the bureau of follow up and coordination.
CA11 RD
Subject: We have information about the location of the Weapons of Mass Destruction
In the day of 10 Mouharam before the coalition forces started the war on Iraq, 50 trucks for land transportation entered Syria on an intermittent convoy. I met some of the drivers and they did not know what they carried in these trucks. These trucks were loaded from an unknown location in Baghdad and was brought to the drivers and the Iraqi Intelligence was with them. Each time they crossed a certain distance, the Iraqi Intelligence stopped them and asked them what are they carrying and their answer was we do not know. And when these trucks arrived to Syria in the area of Deir Al Zour the drivers were taken out of their trucks and the Syrian Intelligence ride instead. These trucks were entered into large warehouses and when these trucks were emptied it was given back to the Iraqi drivers. And they were given a reward worth of 200 dollars for the safety of arrival. One of the drivers mentioned to me that this was second time they carry these secrets loads and the first time was 1 Mouharam.
I have a friend in Syria who works in a Syrian company as partner with a Syrian merchant. This person is an Iraqi ex-Consul in the Iraqi embassies and he resigned from the diplomatic circle and he has strong connection with the Iraqi Embassy in Syria and he knows all the Iraqi Intelligence and those knows that I work for the Iraqi opposition in Syria. I was visiting him daily during this period to find out the important news. When the trucks entered Syria I went to him and told him that Iraqi Weapons entered Syria so he said to me who told you that and I said to him I knew from my sources, and he told me to keep this confidential and not tell anyone because it indeed entered.
Singature
7/13
Under translation and print
Moustafa Al Khaliye.
D.O.D only, 7/13
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Thanks Mike. I do not know how reliable this Iraqi person but this was definitely an official confession that the Department of Defense is aware of as the D.O.D acronym was written on the memo itself.
I'm sure they know right where they are and when the time comes... it will be blown where it sits.
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The "smoking gun" document. Probably one amongst many. wtg Veritas. Keep digging for this stuff. I am sure the Drive by Media will report this. heh!
Decedent?
Nice name:"bureau of follow up and coordination".
There should have been [and probably was] a Directorate of Coordinating the Management and another rival Directorate of Managing the Coordination. And in real life I once had a co-worker with the job title "Manager of Project Management". We called him "MPM". Now he probably is MPMPM.
Bump for later. Thanks for the ping. I have to go pretend I'm working.
It is becoming plainer for all to see, due to all of your efforts, jveritas. Keep up the great work.
"the three sites where Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) are kept in Syria. The storage places are:
-1- Tunnels dug under the town of al-Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria. These tunnels are an integral part of an underground factory, built by the North Koreans, for producing Syrian Scud missiles. Iraqi chemical weapons and long-range missiles are stored in these tunnels.
-2- The village of Tal Snan, north of the town of Salamija, where there is a big Syrian air force camp. Vital parts of Iraq's WMD are stored there.
-3-. The city of Sjinsjar on the Syrian border with the Lebanon, south of Homs city
For more details and satellite pics see:
http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php
Okay folks, show's over. Nothing to see here...Bush lied and people died.
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
Quote sources can be found at http://www.glennbeck.com/news/01302004.shtml
Nice work, jveritas!
We owe you a debt of gratitude.
That seems like it means nothing or even sounds redundant, but it's just bad job titling. The proper title would have been "Director, Project Management"...then it makes total sense.
I should know too; I was a Director of Project Management at one of the largest insurance companies in the U.S. And, unfortunately, that title is decieving. I still had 3 more "rungs" above me before it rose to the executive level (Exec VP).
But, what do you call someone who manages Project Managers?
Unforunately, the bad titling just sounds like a Bud-Light "Real men of genius" commerical, "Here's to you Mr. Project Management...Manager..."
Anyway, I guess it just shows how titles cloud up the issues sometimes.
This is probably why the Administration is playing its cards close to the vest, to allow the left-wing moonbats to keep digging their "no WMD" hole deeper and deeper.
Thanks again, JV. You are a GREAT American!
Oh yeah, we continue to be tethered of to the overly-calcified UN, begging the "international community" (of other thugs and dictators) to either 1) take action or 2) not condemn us or Israel for taking action.
One word: MOAB.
Thank you for your diligence. I hope you realize the important work you are doing.
Very good jveritas, yet more fuel added to the fire that WMD was there.
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Mostly because of you and others hard work, news of the day, 'surprising' the MSM, because despite their 'best efforts'...........
50 percent of U.S. says Iraq had WMDs
By Jennifer Harper
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
July 25, 2006
Pollsters deemed the increase both "substantial" and "surprising" in light of persistent press reports to the contrary in recent years.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20060724-110410-8309r.htm
If true -- and I always want to believe these reports -- what is GWB waiting for? It has been a few years now. Are we stepping lightly because of Russia?
I am curious as to your take on this.
gee, isn't march 10th like a week before we entered iraq?
too bad we spent the year prior wasting time at the UN trying to convince them that saddam was already in violations of a dozen UN resoloutions, you know the years time when the dums say we 'rushed to war'
looks like we didn't go fast enough
As I've told you before, you're doing a great work, so what I'm about to suggest takes nothing away from that. Here it is:
You might want to ask the Admin Mod to change decedent to dissident in both the title and the body. At least, I think that's what you mean.
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/dissident
BTTT Syria is holding a very "hot" pot, sure got to wonder if this stuff has stayed in Syria or if someone else on the world scene has not lifted it out of Syria for parts north.
We all knew this long ago, we knew why Saddam was stalling, but the libs & the liberal media will never admit it. That would prove Bush right!
Rats have employed Goebbels successfully to date. They have told the big lies without ceasing, with remarkable immunity. Despite the flood of data clearly spiking every rat statement as hypocritical, turn tail, and false, including burying all the reports from reliable sources about where the weapons went (Syria).
The Israelis knew and advised us that the weapons were trucked to Syria before the war started.
Funny how the rat left will do anything without conscience or remorse to destroy the United States, the only template for their actions are "does this destroy Bush?" If the answer is yes, they will do it without hesitation.
Lemmings... Larger rats
What disturbs me is why Bush has let this farce continue for so long. He is a most exceedingly patient man.
I noticed that, too.
Perhaps this is one of those cases where dead men do tell tales?
Great work. Does the date of this coincide with the dates of the supposed convoy movement out of Iraq?
Here is a related story:
http://www.nysun.com/article/26514
"The flights - 56 in total, Mr. Sada said - attracted little notice because they were thought to be civilian flights providing relief from Iraq to Syria, which had suffered a flood after a dam collapse in June of 2002."
"The pilots told Mr. Sada that two Iraqi Airways Boeings were converted to cargo planes by removing the seats, Mr. Sada said. Then Special Republican Guard brigades loaded materials onto the planes, he said, including "yellow barrels with skull and crossbones on each barrel." The pilots said there was also a ground convoy of trucks."
"An article in the Fall 2005 Middle East Quarterly reports that in an appearance on Israel's Channel 2 on December 23, 2002, Israel's prime minister, Ariel Sharon, stated, "Chemical and biological weapons which Saddam is endeavoring to conceal have been moved from Iraq to Syria." The allegation was denied by the Syrian government at the time as "completely untrue," and it attracted scant American press attention, coming as it did on the eve of the Christmas holiday."
So, seems like sometime in mid - late 2002?
A decadent defector was my first guess.
I thought dissident. But then I thought maybe someone could speak from the grave in Iraq.
Which proves Colin Powell was correct when he showed the satellite video from the Israeli's ... there were huge trucks crossing from Iraq into Syria. And .. the trucks belonged to Russia.
So this is no suprise to me .. just confirmation.
How come all the highly educated, highly trained, mugwumps can't recall that the UN Inspecters were in Iraq to VERIFY if Saddam destroyed his KNOWN/ADMITTED WMD???????? Did they exist? What? Ya hard hearing Mugwump? Get yer head out. Pass word along to MSM also!!!
major bumpus!!
More news for the lying perverts in charge of the MSM to ignore.
Ignoring these translations will be just another reason the MSM will not be around by the middle of the next decade.
Bush could appear in front of Congress with a slide show and Iraqi confessors and all the sophisticated analyses that the intelligence services can do and it just wouldn't matter.
The MSM's first interview would be with Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi who would say, "look, there's nothing new here, Bush has said this all before. He still doesn't have a plan to bring our troops home and who in the world, with Bush's record, can be sure he's telling the truth this time." Then they would interview Joe Biden and follow that up with the mandatory Republican, Chuck Hagel.
In short, I don't know how we can run the country with all avenues of communication being tainted.
McVey
I know about the DBM, I just wish the administration would acknowledge this.
Do you write talking points for the MSM?
Do you write talking points for the MSM DemocRATS??
Rush was talking today about the % of Americans that know Iraq DID have WMD is up something like 15% from last year.
Thank you.
Exactly.
For your collection:)
Thanks : )
The World Tribune reported on Perricos's briefing. "He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month... The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters ... required for the production of chemical and biological warheads. 'It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for,' Perricos's spokesman, said. 'You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax.'"
Retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, head of the National Imagery and Mapping Agency, said vehicle traffic photographed by U.S. spy satellites indicated that material and documents related to the arms programs were shipped to Syria."
"Last month Moshe Yaalon, who was Israel's top general at the time, said Iraq transported WMD to Syria six weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom began.
Last March, John A. Shaw, a former U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said Russian Spetsnaz units moved WMD to Syria and Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.
"While in Iraq I received information from several sources naming the exact Russian units, what they took and where they took both WMD materials and conventional explosives," Mr. Shaw told NewsMax reporter Charles Smith.
Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong was deputy commander of Central Command during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In September 2004, he told WABC radio that "I do know for a fact that some of those weapons went into Syria, Lebanon and Iran."
In January 2004, David Kay, the first head of the Iraq Survey Group which conducted the search for Saddam's WMD, told a British newspaper there was evidence unspecified materials had been moved to Syria from Iraq shortly before the war.
"We know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program," Mr. Kay told the Sunday Telegraph.
Also that month, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who defected to an undisclosed European country, told a Dutch newspaper he knew of three sites where Iraq's WMD was being kept. They were the town of al Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria; the Syrian air force base near the village of Tal Snan, and the city of Sjinsar on the border with Lebanon.
In an addendum to his final report last April, Charles Duelfer, who succeeded David Kay as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said he couldn't rule out a transfer of WMD from Iraq to Syria.
"There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation," Mr. Duelfer said."
"The short answer to the question of where the WMD Saddam bought from the Russians went was that they went to Syria and Lebanon," former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense John A. Shaw told an audience Saturday at a privately sponsored "Intelligence Summit" in Alexandria, Va. (www.intelligencesummit.org).
"We are not talking about a large stockpile of weapons," he said. "But we know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD programme. Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved."
"Two days before the war, on March 17th, we saw through multiple intelligence channels - both human intelligence and techinical (satellite,eavesdrop) intelligence - large caravans of people and things, including some of the top 55 Iraqis, going to Syria."
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