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State trooper pleads guilty to possessing machine gun
Belleville News-Democrat ^ | Jul. 26, 2006 | ASHLEY TUSAN JOYNER

Posted on 07/26/2006 4:47:07 PM PDT by bad company

Illinois State Police trooper Gregory Mugge pleaded guilty to one charge of possessing an unregistered machine gun in federal court on Tuesday, according to an announcement from the U.S. attorney's office.

Mugge, 52, of Jerseyville, was indicted in January, along with Illinois State Police Sgt. James Vest, 39, of O'Fallon, and John Yard, 36, an Illinois State Police special agent assigned to the Collinsville office, each face separate charges of illegal gun possession.

Mugge faces up to 10 years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000 and a maximum three years of supervised release.

He is scheduled to reappear in court for sentencing on Oct. 27.

On Dec. 29, authorities seized Mugge's unregistered Colt .2234 caliber rifle from his home in Jerseyville. In his plea, Mugge admitted to knowing his possession of the rifle was unlawful.

In February, a group of 12 local police chiefs and sheriffs, and two state senators, Sen. Bill Haine, D-Alton, and Sen. James Watson, R-Greenville, endorsed a letter of support for the three state troopers.

At that time, the backers pushed for administrative punishment for the three troopers rather than prosecution.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; automaticrifle; bang; banglist; firearm; leo; m16; machinegun; mg; rifle; rkba; secondamendment
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To: wyattearp

"...possessing an unregistered machine gun in federal court...

Good to know that their editors were hard at work"

WOW a machine gun in court. Good thing the judge didn't have a gun or it coulda been a wild west shootout.

lets ignore that machines guns (except gatlin guns) didnt exist in the wild west, or that shootouts didn;t really happen, or that guns dont make people dangerous.


21 posted on 07/26/2006 5:02:37 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: IncPen

State senators cannot change a federal law.


22 posted on 07/26/2006 5:03:32 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: JillValentine

Or the transcendental .31838309886 (1/pi) and .367879441 (1/e) caliber rifles! :-)


23 posted on 07/26/2006 5:03:39 PM PDT by poindexters brother
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To: bad company

I dont have an issue with them having the guns. I have an issue with them getting special treatment. The rest of us would in chains.


24 posted on 07/26/2006 5:04:16 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: poindexters brother

Since that the area under one lobe of the sine curve is 2 units, I opt for the 1/2 calliber rifle. A Barrett will do.


25 posted on 07/26/2006 5:05:12 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: thackney

This is weird.


26 posted on 07/26/2006 5:05:51 PM PDT by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - Travis McGee is my friend. “You’ll never need a gun, until you need it badly.”)
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To: Dog Gone
I'm a member of the NRA and own many guns myself. I'd prefer that fully automatic rifles be highly restricted in this country.

I'm a member of BMW Car Club of America and own many vehicles myself. I'd prefer that high speed cars (that go over 65 MPH) be highly restricted in this country.

Are you seeing the problem in your arguement? Fast cars kill ALOT more people IN ONE DAMN DAY than all illegal machine guns have since 1933.

27 posted on 07/26/2006 5:06:13 PM PDT by DCBryan1 ( HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck! HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck !(Avail. only from Muslims))
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To: Dog Gone

"I'm a member of the NRA and own many guns myself. I'd prefer that fully automatic rifles be highly restricted in this country."

I agree totally. Only sane adults who do not have a criminal record should be allowed to have one.


28 posted on 07/26/2006 5:06:28 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Hodar
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Unlawful, but not unconstitutional?

29 posted on 07/26/2006 5:06:53 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: driftdiver
The rest of us would in chains......

Or be engulfed in flames along with toddlers and children....or having our face blown off while holding a baby standing in a door...or.....oh nevermind....

30 posted on 07/26/2006 5:07:28 PM PDT by DCBryan1 ( HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck! HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck !(Avail. only from Muslims))
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To: driftdiver

Well, I'd also make sure politicans aren't packing. Oh, never mind, I guess you covered that one with the "sane" part.


31 posted on 07/26/2006 5:07:32 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Dog Gone

I'd prefer that fully automatic rifles be highly restricted in this country.



How do you reconcile that with the intent of the 2nd amendment?

Why should the people be barred from having the same types of rifles troopers carry in the standing army (both the military and the militarized law enforcement)?

These are EXACTLY they type of arms the founders intended us to keep and bear.


32 posted on 07/26/2006 5:09:42 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: DCBryan1

"Or be engulfed in flames along with toddlers and children....or having our face blown off while holding a baby standing in a door...or.....oh nevermind..."

Took me a bit but I finally got your reference. I didnt know they had automatic weapons at Ruby Ridge. Thought it was only the shotguns and hunting rifles.


33 posted on 07/26/2006 5:10:57 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Beelzebubba

Read the Miller decision....we have MORE of a right to own military firearms than we do semiautos.....bickering and arguing over the RPM just pisses me off...its the intent, responsibility and accountability that needs to be considered in the laws.


34 posted on 07/26/2006 5:12:12 PM PDT by DCBryan1 ( HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck! HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck !(Avail. only from Muslims))
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To: DCBryan1

No, I don't see the problem with my argument. Perhaps you can further elucidate. I think if illegal, or legal, machine guns were widely available here in the states, we'd see them used far more widely.

They are hard to get, or you have to be a bit of a gunsmith to make the conversion from a kit. Consequently, they're not much a factor in crime here. I think the gangbangers would have them if they could get them. And I'd rather they didn't.


35 posted on 07/26/2006 5:13:12 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: driftdiver

I didnt know they had automatic weapons at Ruby Ridge.



It's not that they were automatic, it's that THEY had EXACTLY what they chose to have.


36 posted on 07/26/2006 5:14:00 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: driftdiver
Ruby Ridge happened because of a NFA Act of 1933 violation...possession of a shotgun only 3/8 of an inch below the stupid federal law.....

Basically, to a BATF agent, your life isnt worth $hit over inconsistancies of fractions of an inch, RPM, and a $200.00 tax.

37 posted on 07/26/2006 5:14:32 PM PDT by DCBryan1 ( HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck! HeadOFF Apply directly to the neck !(Avail. only from Muslims))
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To: Dog Gone

If automatic rifles were banned, I'd be disappointed, since they're fun to shoot and a law banning them would be unconstitutional. However, it's comforting to know that a well-trained, well-disciplined citizen with a semi-automatic weapon is more than a match for an undisciplined thug with an automatic rifle.

BTW, Michael Moore, in his anti-gun film Bowling for Columbine, also claimed to be an NRA member. I think he even claimed to be a life member.


38 posted on 07/26/2006 5:15:19 PM PDT by JillValentine (Helen of Troy: Face that launched 1000 ships. Helen Thomas: Face that launched 1000 lunches.)
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To: TheDon
State senators cannot change a federal law.

True enough, but Illinois has the most asinine and draconian gun restrictions in the country. If these mopes had any courage with their convictions, they'd dump the gun laws and let it be known that in Illinois, the 2nd Amendment is the law of the land, and send nanny-state Governor Blogo down in flames. What a bunch of idiots.

39 posted on 07/26/2006 5:16:34 PM PDT by IncPen (Bush Iraq Truth WMD http://freedomkeys.com/whyiraq.htm)
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To: Dog Gone
I think the gangbangers would have them if they could get them. And I'd rather they didn't.

Infringing my 2nd amendment rights because of something gangbangers might do is a very slippery slope.

Furthermore, if I must have somebody shooting at me, I would rather they spray automatic fire than aim.

40 posted on 07/26/2006 5:20:56 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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