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Gout Forced Charles V Abdication, Study Finds
Scotsman ^ | 8-2-2006 | Gene Emery

Posted on 08/03/2006 3:33:43 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 08/03/2006 3:33:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

"Charles V was only 58 years of age at his death, probably from malaria..."

Malaria in England?

2 posted on 08/03/2006 3:35:15 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Wait a second! I'll be 58 in November! And I like beer, wine, and red meat (though I have no need of a four-handled tankard).

You mean.....? Me and Charles V? Geez, this is going to be one h--- of a crash!

And I never even got to rule Europe or threaten France.

Oh, well.........


3 posted on 08/03/2006 3:40:38 PM PDT by elcid1970
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To: blam
Malaria in England?

Charles V ruled the Holy Roman Empire, which at the time covered parts of Europe where Malaria wouldn't be unheard of. Modern mosquito control has wiped out Europe's Malaria problem these days, but Italy in Charles V's time would have been a hotbed of Malaria-carrying mosquitos.

4 posted on 08/03/2006 3:40:53 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: blam


Gout? The Port Wine will do it every time.


5 posted on 08/03/2006 3:43:00 PM PDT by Paperdoll (.........Vote for McGavick!)
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To: blam
Malaria in England?

Charles V of Spain. And yes, malaria wasn't just tropical, before DDT.

6 posted on 08/03/2006 3:44:28 PM PDT by LexBaird ("Politically Correct" is the politically correct term for "F*cking Retarded". - Psycho Bunny)
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To: blam
Malaria in England?

Wrong Charles.

Charles V

7 posted on 08/03/2006 3:45:49 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: blam
The concept of a Roman Empire was resurrected in the 17th century after the ancient Roman Empire had fallen centuries before.

The Holy Roman Empire had been around a lot longer than that, at least since Charlemagne.

8 posted on 08/03/2006 3:48:19 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: okie01
"Wrong Charles. "

Yup. What was I thinking.

9 posted on 08/03/2006 3:50:20 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam; mikrofon; martin_fierro; Cletus.D.Yokel; redgolum; kittymyrib; TonyRo76; PJ-Comix; ...
Charles V was debilitated by gout. . . .

Probably got it from the Diet of Worms.

< /lutheran pun >

10 posted on 08/03/2006 3:56:38 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (AKA "Charles H," Lutheran pastor/punster)
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To: LexBaird

"Shivering with the ague" in contemporary accounts usually referred to malaria.
Used to be here in US as well.


11 posted on 08/03/2006 3:57:52 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: blam
Confession. My first reaction was Charles...of Sweden.
12 posted on 08/03/2006 3:59:17 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Eaker
Gout ping!

His physicians recommended that he follow a strict diet, but the emperor had a voracious appetite, especially for meat. He also liked to drink large quantities of beer and wine, and he even ordered a specially designed four-handled drinking mug

13 posted on 08/03/2006 3:59:43 PM PDT by Flyer (Don't question the questioner)
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To: colorado tanker

True, and one of the easiest days in history to remember, December 25, 800.

Also, it irks me every time I see it reported that the Roman Empire fell in 476 (which this article alludes to). It fell in 1453, or if you really want to stretch it 1461.

That said, looks like I'll be a prime candidate for gout soon. I rarely drink alcohol, but more than make up for it in the meat department.


14 posted on 08/03/2006 4:15:26 PM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: elcid1970
Speaking as an occasional sufferer from gout, just eat LOTS of cherries. Somehow or other, a chemical in cherries dissolves the sodium urate that causes the problem.

Also, if you have an attack of gout, a great palliative (until you can see your doctor, of course) is 4 x 200 plain old generic ibuprofen t.i.d. NSAIDs work well against gout in many people (sadly, not all).

15 posted on 08/03/2006 4:17:41 PM PDT by SAJ (Strongly suggest buying Dec EC, JY, AD straddles, this week. Somethin's GONNA give.)
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To: Flyer; TheMom
Historically, gout has been regarded as a disease of the rich because the foods that increase the risk have usually only been available in quantity to the wealthy.

So if I show my gout a pay stub, bank statement or electric bill I will be cured?

; < )

16 posted on 08/03/2006 4:24:43 PM PDT by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - Travis McGee is my friend. “You’ll never need a gun, until you need it badly.”)
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To: Constantine XI Palaeologus
LOL!

Indeed, if I'm not mistaken your tagline alludes to the fall of the Empire.

17 posted on 08/03/2006 4:27:24 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Paperdoll

"Gout? The Port Wine will do it every time."

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That's what I've read. Gout was especially prevalent in 18th century Europe because of the popularity of (lead laced) port wine among the elite.


18 posted on 08/03/2006 5:01:46 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: blam

I want one of those four handled mugs!


19 posted on 08/03/2006 5:15:04 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Thanks Blam. Malaria was indeed a problem. Not sure, I think Cromwell also died of that (in England).

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20 posted on 08/03/2006 6:05:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, July 27, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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