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Time to Go on the Offense
Townhall.com ^ | August 12, 2006 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 08/12/2006 3:28:16 AM PDT by flynmudd

In one of the clearest statements made in a sometimes anonymous war on terrorism, President Bush said Thursday about the alleged attempt to hijack multiple flights from Britain to the United States: “this nation is at war with Islamic fascists.” The question is, are we fighting the war aggressively on American and British soil, or are we merely playing defense? Defense, alone, does not win football games; neither can it win a war against islamofascism.

Many in the British media and some “experts” appearing on American and British television remain steeped in denial, preferring “Asian men” and “evil people” and other disembodied terms to describe the islamofascists, hoping not to give “offense” and make “them” (whoever “them” may be) even angrier at us. If they are already angry enough to attempt to blow up airlines and commit mass murder, how much angrier could they possibly get? British Prime Minister Tony Blair pledged to shut down certain mosques and deport “preachers of hate” following last summer’s subway and bus bombing in London. The legal maneuverings of civil libertarians and the organized protests by Muslim groups have frustrated Blair. Less than a week before the arrest of some of the alleged airplane plotters, Blair stepped up his offensive by announcing his intention to deport dozens of Islamic extremists (it should be thousands). The Bank of England said it had frozen the bank accounts of the four men suspected of carrying out the July 21, 2005 London bombings amid allegations they had collected more than 500,000 pounds ($892,000) in benefits.

Blair said, “Let no one be in any doubt, the rules of the game are changing.” They changed a long time ago, but British courts haven’t learned how to “play” by the new rules. They remain — as do too many American courts — mired in a 1960s civil liberties mentality. They have ruled anti-terrorism laws illegal and stopped deportation to countries where they fear people might receive “inhumane treatment.” You can’t get more inhumane than blowing up subway trains, buses and airplanes. British and American courts have an outdated approach to law, increasing the likelihood that more of us will be murdered.

It is long past the time when we need to start “playing” the equivalent of smash-mouth football with these people. They’ve got our number, but we don’t yet have theirs. The British are still shocked that people who are born in their country, go to their schools, have British accents and eat fish and chips would kill their fellow Brits. They do so because their allegiance is not to Britain, or to the Queen, but rather to their perverted view of God and the instructions from the hate preachers telling them to go bag some Jews, Christians, Westerners and other “infidels.”

Health officials respond to plagues by isolation and eradication. Their objective is not only to control the spread of a disease, but also to kill it so it won’t infect others. If that is an effective method for combating a plague, why is it not also a good strategy for combating the islamofascist plague?

This isn’t about “civil rights” and constitutional protection. These people use our Constitution to protect themselves so they can kill us. And this is decidedly not a game. It is life and death. We want to live and they want us dead. Any questions?

If the London bombing plot had succeeded and thousands had died, would we stop playing defense and be more aggressive on offense? The FBI’s chief of counterterrorism, Joseph Billy Jr., says the bureau is currently investigating 10,000 terrorism cases in the United States, Afghanistan, Iraq and other places. Is that frightening enough to be proactive? If not, would a nuclear device, or the threat of several nuclear devices exploding in major American cities do it?

As Blair struggles to do the right thing by deporting at least some islamofascists and silencing a few preachers of hate, why aren’t we Americans shutting their Waahabi-funded schools and mosques and deporting those who preach hate, sedition, Sharia law for all and the overthrow of the government? We had better overthrow them before they overthrow us. Who can doubt their ultimate objective?


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crushislam; gwot; islam; islamicfascists; islamisadeathcult; islamisevil; londonairlineplot; muslim; muslims; terrorism; trop; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 08/12/2006 3:28:16 AM PDT by flynmudd
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To: flynmudd

BTTT


2 posted on 08/12/2006 3:45:52 AM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: flynmudd

Islamofascism must be seen in the clear light of truth. It is a criminal cabal. It is murdurous. It seeks to do the greatest evil possible. It wraps itself in a religion of retribution practiced primarily in opressive, tyrannical cultures.
The only way to stop the terror of Muslim fanaticism is to outlaw it worldwide. It must be driven underground and its leaders must be killed or imprisoned. The cost of being a member of an Islamofascist criminal gang must be death not of their choosing or life imprisonment in absolute isolation.
Conspiracy to mass murder is the most heinous crime imaginable. We must demand that all of these fanatics lose their lives or liberty as quickly as they can be discovered. Only a global attack on this murderous conspiracy will stop them.


3 posted on 08/12/2006 3:51:33 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: flynmudd
We had better take care of this problem before it is too late. Some day we will wake up and it won't be a building or two gone or a dozen planes missing, it will be a city missing and our entire way of life gone.
To be the most powerful society ever to have walked upon the earth and to have a place called "the tribal areas" where we are told our enemy is safe seem ludicrous.

Maybe a modern society with its refined moral standards can't defeat one with none.
4 posted on 08/12/2006 3:52:14 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: flynmudd
Bill Quick has put into words the sinking feeling I have about the administration

http://www.dailypundit.com/2006/08/george_bush_where_i_stand.php

5 posted on 08/12/2006 3:56:33 AM PDT by leadhead (It’s a duty and a responsibility to defeat them. But it's also a pleasure)
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To: leadhead; All
Here's the link for your Daily Pundit link. ;-)

http://www.dailypundit.com/2006/08/george_bush_where_i_stand.php

6 posted on 08/12/2006 4:00:09 AM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: The Drowning Witch

Over here, Witch ........


7 posted on 08/12/2006 4:01:15 AM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: flynmudd

By the way .... welcome to FR. Thank your son for serving his country.


8 posted on 08/12/2006 4:03:37 AM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: Amos the Prophet
As harsh as it sounds, everyone who shouts "Death to the Infidels" should be eliminated immediately and everyone quietly providing money to them likewise eliminated.

There must be a few horrible examples made of these people to slow down the rest.

9 posted on 08/12/2006 4:03:43 AM PDT by leadhead (It’s a duty and a responsibility to defeat them. But it's also a pleasure)
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To: flynmudd

Expel all muslims and close the borders so no more go in.


10 posted on 08/12/2006 4:04:18 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism is the ideology of nihilism, despair, nothingness +death. That why they like islamofascists.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

Make it known worldwide that the we will utterly completely destroy Mecca if this does not end. And it will not, it will only get worse. We ended WW2 with the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, its due time to do it again.
I can live with the memory that we may destroy a religious shrine but if it is a bargaining chip in our favor then so be it, war is hell.


11 posted on 08/12/2006 4:15:25 AM PDT by Eye of Unk
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To: flynmudd
Yeah we should go into panic stricken hysterics and implement a totalitarian police state. Totally restructure our society in a fit of panic. Boy, That is a "Great" idea

Gee Cal what part of the 1st Amendment do you find so hard to understand? You know, the part that says:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Anyone of the Chicken Little Pundits even bother to notice that we are all ready well on our way to WINNING? Time for the Drama Queens and Hysteric Chest Beaters in the Junk media to take a deep breath and get grip.

Yeah we should really throw away everything that makes our society great because of a bunch of 7th Century retreads.

As Lady Thatcher might say, This is no time to go wobbly

12 posted on 08/12/2006 4:46:46 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
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To: leadhead
The problem I have with those who are so critical of GWB is that, in our system of government, we have presidential elections every four years and only those candidates that are nominated by their respective parties have a chance to become POTUS. In 2000, the other choices were Algore and Ralph Nader. In 2004, the other choice was John Kerry. Do you mean to suggest that any of these three men would have done a better job? I am not saying that there is no one else who could have managed the WOT more successfully. The point is that THESE WERE THE CHOICES.

Despite the accusations of the Bushaters, he is not a dictator and has had to work through Congress, the military leaders, and, at times, the courts in the prosecution of the war. IMO, President Bush has done the best job that he could in the face of constant opposition by the left and constant criticism by the right. It is not possible or fair to judge a POTUS in the middle of his term. History will judge President Bush, not today's pundits from either the left or the right.
13 posted on 08/12/2006 4:47:46 AM PDT by srmorton (Choose Life!)
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To: MNJohnnie

Do you remember when Osama said he would use our laws against us?


14 posted on 08/12/2006 4:49:44 AM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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To: Recon Dad
Gee it would be really nice if the macho chest beater would remember, even for a heart beat, that the vast bulk of the forces fighting and dying for OUR side in the war on Islamic Fascism are Muslim Iraqis, Pakistanis and Afghanis.

This "kill them all and let God sort it out" makes for macho sounding rhetoric, it nonsense as US Government Policy.

Did not work so well for the Russians in Afghanistan to play it this way now did it?

15 posted on 08/12/2006 4:50:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (A proportionate response would be the indiscriminate slaughter of Western journalists)
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To: MNJohnnie
I reread my post and in no way did I say, "kill them all and let God sort it out".
What I did say was you can not give an enemy a sanctuary where you can't attack them.
Your other statement concerning all the Muslims fighting and dying for our side doesn't address the fact that we can't even get the Muslims amongst us to condemn the terrorists. Their heads might be here, but their hearts are with our enemies.
16 posted on 08/12/2006 5:50:26 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: flynmudd

shame that our PC culture needs another 9/11 with at least 100,000 US casualties before we "put a gun" to iran's , n.korea's and similar countries' and groups' heads.


17 posted on 08/12/2006 5:55:36 AM PDT by 1234 (WHO is Responsible for ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS?)
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To: 1234

Unfortunately, that is what it is going to take, another 9/11 event.


18 posted on 08/12/2006 6:13:39 AM PDT by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSR Richard T. Blalock-USS Ramage)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Time to Go on the Offense."
We are at war with islamofacists, with religious fanatics.

Gee Cal what part of the 1st Amendment do you find so hard to understand? You know, the part that says:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Nothing in the 1st allows fanatics to ignore the rest of our Constitution in order to 'freely exercise' their religion. 'Religious' acts can be anti-constitutional & criminal..

Yeah we should go into panic stricken hysterics and implement a totalitarian police state. Totally restructure our society in a fit of panic. Boy, That is a "Great" idea.

Our constitution [if followed - big if] protects us from gov't 'panic' as well as from religious panic.
Can you agree that overzealous politicians are just as bad as religious fanatics?

19 posted on 08/12/2006 9:15:52 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: MNJohnnie

Islam is a religion of death. You still don't understand this concept? What would it take to awaken your understanding?


20 posted on 08/12/2006 11:00:25 AM PDT by abclily
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