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Liberal 'base' emboldens Republicans
Daily News ^ | Aug. 19, 2006 | Paul Kujawsky

Posted on 08/20/2006 3:17:03 PM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

"Granted but we are talking absent those things."

This constitutes a logical fallacy concerning Islam. Subjugation or murder ... why does this sound so familiar in the context of Muslim belief? Could it be that, since the very definition of "Islam" is "submission," and that since the Koran admonishes believers to kill all nonbelievers, in more than just a few instances, that subjugation or murder is the foundation of the religion, as it relates to the world outside of Islam, referred to as "Dar es Harb" or the world of war? What Muslim groups do not follow these "philosophies?" For that matter, what Nazi groups do not?


41 posted on 08/20/2006 5:05:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: FairOpinion

I know some life long democrats who are very unhappy with the democrat party. They are all socially moderate also, so a big tent philosophy would appeal to them.


42 posted on 08/20/2006 5:16:25 PM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Look up some Eugenics groups for your answers on Nazi's.

What Muslim groups do not follow these "philosophies?"

Just off the top of my head the Druze are a sect of Islam that does not.

43 posted on 08/20/2006 5:20:24 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: FairOpinion
Unfortunately, many here on FR are willing to abandon the Republicans to "teach them a lesson" and put Democrats in charge of national security.

Big mistake.

44 posted on 08/20/2006 5:21:17 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of "dependence on government"!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Druze: Religious community generally considered to be Muslim but whose practices also contain elements of Christianity and paganism.


45 posted on 08/20/2006 5:24:54 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: FairOpinion
A Democratic Party that took seriously the war against Islamism would do a better job of defeating it than the current administration. Thats because Republicans wouldn't fight you tooth and nail.
46 posted on 08/20/2006 5:42:29 PM PDT by 03A3
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To: RegulatorCountry
That would be them.
47 posted on 08/20/2006 5:53:07 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: FairOpinion

Democrats: The Party of 'Cut N Paste'. (From the Republican Playbook).


48 posted on 08/20/2006 6:34:22 PM PDT by sportutegrl (A person is a person, no matter how small. (Dr. Seuss))
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To: FairOpinion
Gee, I wonder if the DUcks will be posting this article over there?...lol.

They are the very ones that the author is saying are too stupid to direct the RAT party platform.

Every chance I get, I try to direct moderate Dem's to go to the DUck room and read the twaddle they spew, and let them know that is who/what is in charge of the RAT party now.

Given time, the DUcks will erode the RAT party to under 30%, and the more they lose, the nuttier they get...lol.
49 posted on 08/20/2006 6:37:56 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Ronald Reagan didn't turn me into a Republican....Jimmy Carter did that!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Funny how some of the RINO types are becoming the p.c. Gestapo and try silencing dissent from the religious conservatives or anyone else that does not bend their knee in acquiescence...
50 posted on 08/20/2006 6:38:20 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Unfortunately, many here on FR are willing to abandon the Republicans to "teach them a lesson" and put Democrats in charge of national security.

Likewise there are so-called Republicans who are willing to piss on the religious conservatives who helped them win elections so they can kiss the asses of liberal sacred cows...

51 posted on 08/20/2006 6:42:14 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: MaineVoter2002
May I suggest adopting Dick Devos, GOP candidate for governor in Michigan? Folks here are furious with our current glamour girl, Jenny "Grandstand" Granholm. IMO she is going to go down in flames. She only won last time because of "Engler-fatigue." The state's become an economic basket case and she has done nothing to make the state more business friendly. Devos's ads have really been hitting the mark. This is going to be a sleeper race that should in fact be a pubbie pickup.

What's more, if conservatives turn out in force, we could even unseat Sen Debbie "Dangerously Incompetitent" Stabinow. Nobody is talking about this now, but Mike Bouchard may pickup a Michigan senate seat for the pubbies.

The pic here is not a joke or parody: she actually stood on the floor of the Senate without a clue that the image could boomerang back on her

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52 posted on 08/20/2006 6:58:59 PM PDT by ishmac
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

That's not what the article is about.

Suggest reading it.


53 posted on 08/20/2006 7:49:17 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque

Well, looks like you were right.
These pictures prove it.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1687131/posts


54 posted on 08/20/2006 8:35:33 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

bttt


55 posted on 08/20/2006 9:03:42 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: FairOpinion
My sister is no less committed to civil rights than before. But she believes that not being murdered by Islamist terrorists is also an important civil right. She is not sure that the Democratic Party completely agrees with her.

Hit the nail on the head here...and even when they're told this is their problem the dems chose to place gaining power over protecting Americans.

56 posted on 08/20/2006 9:07:28 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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Interesting sidebar on this person, one of many Jews that are disillusioned with the Democratic party but not quite ready to make the break - moving closer all the time, though:

http://hedgehogcentral.blogspot.com/2006/08/ferment-among-democrats.html
"DEMOCRATIC PARTY NEEDS ANGRY LIEBERMANIACS
By Paul Kujawsky"
[excerpt]
Many Jewish Democrats are wondering, If there’s no room in the Democratic Party for Joe Lieberman, what am I doing here? The Republican Jewish Coalition is ready with its answer. It has launched a nation-wide ad campaign that argues, "What was once the radical Left—with its antipathy toward Israel, its indifference to anti-Semitism, and its desire to appease terrorists instead of fighting them—is now emerging as part of the mainstream in the Democratic Party." It’s designed to make Jewish Democrats ask, "Is this the political party I want to be part of?"

The answer remains yes. Don’t give up.


57 posted on 08/20/2006 10:02:08 PM PDT by Northern Alliance
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To: FairOpinion
The west is as much at war with Islam today as it was over the past 13 centuries. From Tours to the fall of Constantinople to Vienna to the current moslem immigrant invasion of Europe and the US, they mean to conquer us and impose Sharia. Islam is a threat that must be excised from our society.
58 posted on 08/21/2006 4:38:05 AM PDT by Jacquerie (All Muslims are suspect.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Are we to assume that Nazism and communism would be perfectly acceptable to you, absent murder and subjugation?

The short answer is, yes.

What do you think socialism is? "Communism with a human face."

And don't forget, German National Socialism was a Left movement that walked a nationalist walk, to get all-important support from former Army officers. The animosity between Nazis and Communists was an ideological purity contest, the political equivalent of a brother fight. That's why it was so nasty: they were competitors, not enemies.

59 posted on 08/21/2006 4:45:14 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: FairOpinion

If those pics don't scare the bejeebers into you about islam being the world's enemy, nothing will. Worked for me, F.


60 posted on 08/21/2006 5:01:25 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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