It's a nice one isn't it?
Posted on 09/05/2006 3:27:29 PM PDT by trooprally
For all you loony couch conservatives, the General Election is not the time to sit home and cry over not having a choice.
If you sit home and the Rats gain the majority in either House, blame yourself. I know I will.
A Republican Rino is still better than a Rat. It gives the Republicans majority status. With that status, we control committees and keep the Rats from starting multitudes of witch-hunting investigations and impeachment procedures. Nothing may get done with or without the RINOs, but its better than having the Rats in control.
If you don't like the RINOs in your district, then the Primaries are the time to get rid of them. It also takes less effort to get rid of a RINO in the primaries. I know some Primaries are over, but a lot are coming up in September. If there is not a conservative to choose from in your District's Primary, than again, that is your fault.
So I don't get flamed too bad, let me say, I don't like RINOs and this thread is not to argue the "cons & cons" of a RINO. I'm just saying hold your nose and vote for your RINO in the General Election. The Republicans absolutely need to keep control of both Houses.
This crap about letting the Rats get control of a House to increase our chances of regaining control in '08 with true conservatives is foolish. Do you really thing the drive-by media will let the public know how bad the Rats are? Hell no.
So vote out your RINOs in the Primary, '06 or '08, or vote for them in the General Election. Don't take a step back and allow the Rats to gain a foot hold. It will be that much harder for conservative in '08. Besides, if you can get a true conservative elected in '08, then he/she has to win in the Primary any ways.
Flame On!!, but please be gentle.
[Mr] Trooprally
I second these remarks.
I don't stay home, I look for alternative party candidates.
Preach it, brother!
Ping - some food for thoughts.
[Mr] T
Voted for Kodos, didja?
It's even simpler than that. An election is a contest between, usually, two people. Vote for the better one. If you're not happy with the choice, get off your can and run yourself.
Same as voting for a RAT. There is no alternative candidate that will have the majority to get though a conservative agenda.
Which may be the same difference.
In California's Gubernatorial Election, I am voting for Ed Noonan, a vote for Ed Noonan is a vote for Ed Noonan, NOT Phil Angelides.
How far to the left does a Republican nominee have to go before you recoil in horror?
I'll be voting Republican.
But...I think the party/candidates are running a real risk by NOT at
least trying to run up a simple bill for the securing of the borders.
Their total back-burner approach to the border and illegal immigration is
unfortunately the best "depressant" for disillusioning the core constiuents.
I'm a border troll. But I will vote Republican regardless of the current approach.
I'm just afraid that too many Republicans (as is their right) will stay
home thanks to the current Republican snooz-fest.
Agreed. And is logical.
You hold on to what you got, or maybe you lose an inch. You dont LET GO and fall into the chasm.
VOTE REPUBLICAN. The dems would love to pull a Perot whenver they get the chance. Eight years of Bubba because of the suckers that fell for it.
Never again.
I plan on voting GOP. The alternative is unaffordable at this time
"I don't stay home, I look for alternative party candidates."
Under the "vote for Perot, and watch Clinton get elected " theory of politics, I suppose ...
Exactly right.
For the most part, a distinction without a difference, IMHO...
If that's the case, than get rid of them in the Primaries. If you are not involved in the Republican Party and your get a leftist Pub, than that's your fault. Period. Don't complain to me.
No, under the "I'm as mad as H**l and I'm not taking it anymore theory.
In a way I'm kinda glad they aren't voting on immigration till after the election. I just don't trust my soon to be former congressman. I suspect he would happily seek to punish us for voting against him.
"In California's Gubernatorial Election, I am voting for Ed Noonan, a vote for Ed Noonan is a vote for Ed Noonan, NOT Phil Angelides."
But you can't truthfully consider it a vote AGAINST Angelides either.
Been there, done that in '92 :-(
When they're left of the Dhimmi that they're running against...
Agreed.
We need majority status in both houses.
Your reason is a good one for delay until after the election.
Just now, Pat Buchanan was mentioning the need to keep the House Republican
to avoid an Amnesty program that would surely be passed and then
signed by Dubya.
"No, under the "I'm as mad as H**l and I'm not taking it anymore theory."
Wait until the Rat you didn't vote against gets into office, then see if you wind up "taking it" or not.
Getting rid of the RINOs will take time, but salking and sitting out the General is nonsensical.
Good sentiments, and I add my hearty amen to all. But prepare to be brutally assaulted by a few unthinking absolutists who thinks the failed Vietnam policy of "burn the village to save it" works in politics.
What these people don't get is, while we might be getting some of what we don't like from GOPers and some of what we do, we'll get A LOT of what we don't like from Democrats if they're in the majority.
The stakes are too high in this election to not vote or waste a vote on 3rd party candidates. Let's work to keep the GOP in control and then work to change what needs changing with their way of doing things.
The alternative is Speaker Pelosi, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel, Judiciary Chair John Conyers, Banking Committee Chair Barney Frank and on and on. Never ending socialist legislation will be the legacy of a Democratic House, and their attempts to destroy Bush's legacy with a campaign of Moveon.org-inspired innuendo leading to endless House investigations and doubtless an impeachment vote to avenge Clinton.
We will also see endless attempts to defund the continuing liberation of Iraq and even possibly the war on terror with new legislation to hobble the intelligence services and the monitoring of Al Qaeda phone communications and banking transactions.
The country in a time of war simply cannot afford the kind of gridlock and turmoil these hard-line partisans who populate the Democratic House leadership will bring to the nation and its governance and the president's last 2 years in office. Not voting to help keep these extremists away from controlling the House is simply not a self-indulgence we can afford in these times.
I agree with you. Not voting for the republican is a vote for the dim. And, voting for dims is a vote against our military men & women who will be left twisting in the wind if the dims come into power.
Well I am involved. If I had to guess I'd say I've been involved years longer than you have. You know that it's not that simple. When a candidate like Arnold Schwarzenegger gains power in a party then seizes control of the entire party apparatus and morphs into a member of the other party, the organization and resources don't exist to oust him.
Voting for such a person in either a primary or a general election is unconscionable. The Democrat does not have the power to change the Republican Party internally. The Democrat does not have the power to sway critical GOP votes in the legislature for necessary 2/3 votes like tax increases.
Under the circumstance of two liberal Democrats running for office against each other in the general election (as is the case with Arnold and Angelides). The choice which removes the cancer from the Republican Party might very well be the preferable one.
Right you are. Hope the couch conservatives are smart enough to quit pouting and vote conservative this fall.
See this thread for the relevance:
RI Senate Poll - Whitehouse +2 over RINO Chafee, +27 over "I'm not a Conservative" Laffey
But some things, like border/national security are NON-NEGOTIABLE for me.
No RINOs.
Bottom line: Vote in the primary, or STFU about who's running in the general.
Great - and Thanks.
Count me on the Yea side! I agree with your logic.
This country is still a 2 party nation, and the voice of the 3rd party,
is quieter than a whisper.
It speaks nothing.
Vote Republican!
Same as voting Democrat. Remember Ross Perot gave us Clinton for years. Don't repeat that mistake.
I WHOLE HEARTEDLY AGREE 100% (Check my latest posts) I have been on this Kick for a while, and currently am involved in Republican Primaries..It's better than1) Complaining, 2) Sitting-the election-out, 3) Voting Dem., and 4) Voting 3rd party (as well meaning as some of those involved ijn 3rd parties are..).
I have been involved in Primaries this season, and I have to say that RINO hunting is Going well,..and fun to top it off!
I think more Conservative SHOULD get involved in primaries, whether that is voting, supporting Conservative candidates, or even running themselves!\ More, and more as a movement True Reaganite Conservatives are going to wake up to the fact that we as Conservatives MUST become involved in the PRimary season (en mass) or RINOS and Democratics are going to RUIN This God fearng nation!
What do you do when your RINO runs unopposed in the primaries, and considers himself to be such a shoo-in that he hardly even campaigns for the general election in your state anymore??
Here in Indiana we have such a RINO, senator DICK (champion of the UN L.O.S.T treaty) Lugar.
So, now what, Mr. Einstien?
That's another Democrat vote right there. Don't make the Perot mistake again.
Exactly. Especially with Stevens and Ginsberg in poor health. Look, I can't stand Kean but I'm contributing time and money to his campaign because, when push comes to shove, it will be easier to get another Alito on the bench with Kean than Menendez.
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