Posted on 09/08/2006 11:04:30 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
No surprise there. Just another element of the CIA's (and the State Department's) venal, willful and years long smear campaign against the I.N.C. (and Chalibi). All this part of the CIA's (and the State Department's) venal, willful and years long subversion of their legal obligation to build up the I.N.C. under the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998.
Had the CIA (and the State Department) made a sincere effort to actually implement the provisions of this act -- the intent of which was repeatedly reaffirmed by Congress in the face of CIA (and State Department) recalcitrance and subversion -- we would have had:
The effect these things would have had on subsequent events is now obvious. Indeed full implementation of the Iraq Liberation Act might have made the war unnecessary in the first place. (The buildup of a "Free Iraq" army and government in the "No Fly" zones might conceivably have lead to mass exodus and internal collapse within Saddam's Iraq. It certainly would have weakened Saddam and limited his options.)
The CIA, and The State Department, have the blood of thousands of American soldiers on their hands.
This report is beyond bogus. Zarqawi was welcomed into Iraq and treated at an elite, Baghdad hospital reserved for Baathist party elites under Saddam from wounds suffered in Afghanistan. He then went on to co-found the Al Qaeda-affiliated Ansar al Islam with one of Saddam's top intelligence officials. Ansar was located in a portion of northeastern Iraq not under the control of the Kurds as the deceptive information claiming to debunk this information claims. Indeed, Saddam used Ansar to combat anti-Saddam Kurdish forces.
Also, there is LEGIONS of information available to show Saddam worked with Al Qaeda, which even the 9-11 Commission confirmed, not the least of which are the documents from Saddam own's intelligence files showing Iraq and Al Qaeda worked together. The Senate committee never had those documents.
The Senate Intel. Committee was sloppy or purposely negligient in concluding no ties to Saddam and AL Qaeda. The evidence is beyond compelling. The Senate claiming otherwise is perpetuating one of the Big Lies of many Big Lies told by the left about Saddam and Iraq.
A link to a posting rife with evidence of Saddam and Al Qaeda working together. Scroll down into the comments for much, much more:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1335971/posts
This report is beyond bogus. Zarqawi was welcomed into Iraq and treated at an elite, Baghdad hospital reserved for Baathist party elites under Saddam from wounds suffered in Afghanistan. He then went on to co-found the Al Qaeda-affiliated Ansar al Islam with one of Saddam's top intelligence officials. Ansar was located in a portion of northeastern Iraq not under the control of the Kurds as the deceptive information claiming to debunk this information claims. Indeed, Saddam used Ansar to combat anti-Saddam Kurdish forces.
Also, there is LEGIONS of information available to show Saddam worked with Al Qaeda, which even the 9-11 Commission confirmed, not the least of which are the documents from Saddam own's intelligence files showing Iraq and Al Qaeda worked together. The Senate committee never had those documents.
The Senate Intel. Committee was sloppy or purposely negligient in concluding no ties to Saddam and AL Qaeda. The evidence is beyond compelling. The Senate claiming otherwise is perpetuating one of the Big Lies of many Big Lies told by the left about Saddam and Iraq.
A link to a posting rife with evidence of Saddam and Al Qaeda working together. Scroll down into the comments for much, much more:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1335971/posts
I thought we invaded Iraq because Saddam didn't comply with the cease fire agreements?
Nothing about WMD or links to terrorists, although he did use WMD in the past and we've found traces and the two biggest terrorists in history happened to live in Baghdad.
I must have missed those speeches.
Ansar al-Islam was a Saddam Hussein / al-Qaeda joint enterprise. Exactly the sort of "collaborative" relationship that the 9-11 Commission denied. Just a portion of the evidence, from this source:
- Abu Iman al-Baghdadi, 20 year veteran of Iraqi Intelligence, told BBC news that Saddam Hussein is funding and arming Ansar al Islam to fend off anti-Saddam Kurds
Jim Muir, BBC, July 24, 2002
-Qassem Hussein Mohamed, 20-years of service in Iraq’s Mukhabarat, says that Saddam Hussein has been secretly aiding, arming and funding Ansar al Islam and al Qaeda for several years Scott Peterson, Christian Science Monitor, 4-2-02
Jeffrey Goldberg, New Yorker, 3-25-02
- The NSA was said to have intercepted phone calls of Iraqi officials praising Ansar al Islam and talked of funding the group Stephen Hayes, Weekly Standard, 7-22-05
- Abdul Rahman al-Shamari, in interviews with Jonathan Schanzer of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy and others, has said that high ranking Iraqi officers were in league with Ansar al-Islam/al Qaeda affiliates well before the start of the war Jonathan Schanzer, Weekly Standard, 3-01-04
- Local Kurds later reported similar stories Preston Mendenhall, MSNBC, "War Diary"
- A number of high ranking former Mukhabart agents and Military officers have been caught working with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Ansar al-Islam in Iraq Mark Eichenlaub, NewsBlaze, 2006
- Captured Ansar al Islam members told reporters Michael Howard and Jonathan Schanzer that the head of Iraq's Mukhabarat was helping Iraqi officials smuggle military grade TNT and other weapons into the possession of Ansar al Islam. Michael Howard, Guardian Unlimited, 8-23-02 Jonathan Schanzer, The Washington Institute, 1-15-03
-TNT, which bore the trademarks of the Iraqi military, was later found among Ansar's possessions by Kurdish security forces. Micheal Howard, Guardian Unlimited, 8-23-02
- Captured Ansar members have told their captors that Izzat al-Douri, one of Saddam Hussein's top aides, is now leading Ansar attacks on coalition targets Globalsecurity.org, 10-03 Jack Fairweather, UK Telegraph, 10-31-03 AP, October 31,2003
- Landmines, chemical weapons gear and mortars were all found among the rubble of Ansar al Islam's destroyed camp in Northen Iraq Newsday, March 31,2003, just as captured Iraqi Intelligence officers and Ansar al Islam members had claimed BEFORE the war Jeffrey Goldberg, New Yorker, 3-25-02
- Atropine auto-injectors (antidote for chemical weapons), which had been mass ordered by Iraq in late 2002, and gas masks were found at both the Ansar base in Northern Iraq and official Iraqi military compounds CNN, 10-12-02 CNN, April 8, 2003
- A number of captured or surviving members of Ansar al Islam, including their Media Chief Mohamed Gharib, have told reporters that their group accepted financial and weapons assistance from Saddam Hussein's regime Scott Peterson, Christian Science Monitor, 10-16-2003
Enough human testimony, coupled with the discovery of numerous examples of physical evidence (weapons, mines, antidotes, etc), makes it possible to re-examine the question of whether or not the regime of Saddam Hussein sponsorsed Ansar al Islam. While the of extent of sponsorship remains an open question, there is an ample amount of evidence to conclude that mines, money, TNT, chemical weapons gear and other forms of logistical support took place. All of these things are clear violations of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687, barring Iraq from harboring or aiding known terrorist groups.
Yup, the claim that Al Qaeda and Saddam did not work together is a massive lie. The weakling RINOs on the intel. committee likely just rolled over for the Democratic partisan extremists like the traitor Carl Levin to claim no Saddam-Al Qaeda connections. You'd have to be blind not to see the mountain of evidence that such connections existed. The US Senate is showing itself to be a deeply mendacious and corrupted organization to ignore these facts all in the name of "senate collegiality."
A link to a posting rife with evidence of Saddam and Al Qaeda working together. Scroll down into the comments for much, much more:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1335971/posts
-All Terror, All the Time-- FR's links to NBC Warfare, Terror, and More...--
Again, Al-Qaida was EVERYWHERE in the world EXCEPT Iraq.
Still reading it now and yes its insulting to someone who's studied this topic for literally thousands of hours over the past three years.
When I see "there is no evidence of..." and then it's of Zarqawi's presence in Baghdad being ok with Iraq or one IIS agent pretending to know the activities of ALL IIS agents I get pretty disgusted with the utter "cherry picking" of just random people to quote and blanket statements that are demonstrably false.
..of course there were ties. I highly doubt that there were formal diplomatic relations - but Saddam was certainly willing to play the enemy of my enemy is my friend schtick with any islamo-fascist bastards that agreed to kill Americans
I have HAD IT with the party of lies and their attempts to smear our president while working to exhonerate our enemies. This country is the one seething on the brink of civil war if you ask me, not Iraq. Because a lot of people like me are well beyond fed up with the evil and treason of that other political party.
I have HAD IT with the party of lies and their attempts to smear our president while working to exhonerate our enemies. This country is the one seething on the brink of civil war if you ask me, not Iraq. Because a lot of people like me are well beyond fed up with the evil and treason of that other political party.
Newly released document links Saddam to al-Qaida (Free Republic mention/link)
Document translated by jveritas and lots of other links.
Did the Senate Intell Committee comment on this document?
(PS: Sorry if this doc has been mentioend already. I jsut had time to skim through the posts.)
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