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Pastor indicted in rape case
Dallas-Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | August 30, 2006 | MELODY McDONALD

Posted on 09/17/2006 9:18:03 AM PDT by punster

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To: punster
Did he tell her to put some ice on it? Still waiting for the headline: Impeached Ex-President indicted in rape case
41 posted on 09/17/2006 2:49:17 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Shimmer128; Letaka

She sounds like a complete failure as a lesbian.

I'd roll on the floor, laughing, but who knows what might happen!
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42 posted on 09/17/2006 2:50:40 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (Deja moo: The feeling you've heard this bull before)
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To: CindyDawg

The part I have difficulty with is the month later. I don't at all buy the idea that women "are asking for" rape and therefore the guy not at fault. However, I also know try to be cautious and responsible. Something about this story doesn't quite make sense to me, unless it's a we're the only way to God type cult.

Otherwise, fool me once . . .


43 posted on 09/17/2006 3:07:48 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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To: Wicket

It would have helped if we had some names and the type of church.


44 posted on 09/17/2006 3:18:06 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Shimmer128
I'm sorry, i don't usually laugh over such things, but ....exactly where were the demons to come out of?

Me neither, but that line demanded a post... weird, strange... potentially funny stuff.

45 posted on 09/17/2006 3:31:58 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: CindyDawg

This is an AP article with a little more info. Sounds like it might be a "church of what's happening now", and he sounds outright evil.

Pastor accused of sexual assault

Associated Press



FORT WORTH - A Fort Worth pastor was arrested on a sexual assault warrant after a church member said he raped her under the guise of casting out demons.

Leonard Ray Owens, 63, was arrested Friday after he went to police to give a voluntary statement. Owens, the pastor of Prayer House of Faith, has denied having sexual contact with the woman, police said.

The 22-year-old woman told authorities Owens raped her in July when she went to his home for counseling.

According to an affidavit, the pastor told the woman she was afflicted by demons and instructed her to lie on the floor so he could cast them out of her body. She attempted to get up when he began removing her clothing, but he pinned her down, ignored her pleas to stop and assaulted her, the affidavit said.

The woman said after the assault, Owens told her to wash her face and read a Bible passage.

She told police Owens raped her again about a month later and attempted to assault her in October for a third time.

According to the affidavit, the woman told police that Owens "wants to know her every move and has told her that no one will believe anything she says about him as he is a minister."

Authorities said the woman also interpreted several of the pastor's statements as threats, including one in which he called her a witch and said the Bible requires that witches be killed.

Owens was booked into jail Friday with bond set at $25,000.


46 posted on 09/17/2006 3:39:42 PM PDT by Wicket (God bless and protect our troops and God bless America)
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"He was just 63. I'm 61 years old, and in no way a weak, doddering old man. There may be some 22 year old women who could fight me off, but not many . . ."

HaHa, I laughed reading your response, because I went through something similar when I was in my early 20s and married to my first husband.

He was a good hillbilly boy up here in the hills of Tennessee. His Daddy was one of those old (in his 70s) weak men who was stronger than an ox when he wanted to be and it was convenient. He had molested his daughters and grandaughters. He was the most religious person I've ever known, every time the church doors were open he was in church, always preachin to other people, in your face stuff, etc.

He was also the most evil person I have ever encountered (freewill Baptist). He tried that shit on me but I was young and strong and could run REAL fast.

I tell folks often that back in my younger days I was an Olympic runner, and it's true.

I call it cornfield olympics. I learned to run through the cornfield REALLY fast. And I never got caught.

I finally got fed up, and faced the whole bunch of hypocrits, including the (now )ex husband. I got out.

I don't like hypocrits, I have a lot of experience with them. And, in my experience, people who are overly zealous and religious and pushing it on other people, 10 times out of 10 they have a guilty conscience about something and this is how they think they can make up for it.

I came from a family (my ex's family considered us a bunch of heathens) that happened to enjoy a beer or glass of wine, but my Daddy would never do such a thing. Ex hubby's family believed it was okay to rape your daughters, etc., but drink a beer and you'll go to hell.

There's a lot more of this that goes on than people realize. I was lucky I grew up in a heathen family and got out. His granddaughters (who I still see sometimes) were not so lucky, they all have serious problems thanks to his handiwork.


47 posted on 09/17/2006 5:18:34 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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"He was the most religious person I've ever known, every time the church doors were open he was in church, always preachin to other people, in your face stuff, etc.

He was also the most evil person I have ever encountered "




Well, that's not the norm, but it does happen...a lot more frequently than it should. Religion builds trust and some evil people take advantage of that to abuse people who trust them.

It's a tiny minority of religious leaders who do that, but when they do, it shocks people mightily.

I'm sorry for your experience, but glad that you were a good runner! [grin]

I hope you didn't think that I would ever bother anyone that way. I was just responding to the person who considered a 63 year old man "real old." I'm guessing the poster (sorry, I can't remember the screenname) is "real young."


48 posted on 09/17/2006 5:23:55 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: punster

This story needs a lot of investigation. What woman would go back to the home of a man who had raped her to have a prayer session? I guess I just can't believe anyone would be that stupid or naive.


49 posted on 09/17/2006 5:31:06 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: MineralMan

No, Mineral Man, I wasn't thinking you were like that. After reading some other posters comments I just wanted to add my thoughts -- it does happen, especially up in these mountains in Appalachia, and probably all over the nation.

I also know some true Christians. There's a BIG DIFFERENCE between a religious person and a Christian. I happen to know both.

I have been saved, and I happen to spend a lot of my time, effort, and money helping other people. But I also know really religious people that would stab Jesus in the back for a dollar, or can be evil and sit in a church on Sunday and think that will acquit them of their sins, so they can go and do it again.

And from that experience in my early life I learned to have a real disdain for hypocrites. I've known hard core drunks, etc., who were better Christians than these phonies.

I am a hillbilly descended from a long line of Scotch Irish ancestors, the ones who came to this country and opened the "wilderness," who came through Cumberland Gap and began the great migration westward.

Some of them made corn whiskey (my grandpa) during prohibition, and some of them ran it (my Daddy, in true Thunder Road era). I have preachers, circuit riding preachers, etc., and sinners in my family. But there is nothing worse, no lower lifeform, than a person who uses religion to abuse, control, and hurt innocents.

They were here when Jesus walked the earth, and are now. But I have no use for these vipers, I lived through it and I know how harmful it can be.

And yes, in my experience these evil ones, the evilist, are in the minority.

BTW, my ex husband and his family thought I was crazy when I decided to go to college and get out of there. They made fun of me (I was a ninth grade dropout with a GED), but I've never looked back. I am now a writer/editor, have a college education and have been successful. The ex's nieces, nephews and others all have problems from this evil man, most are in prison or other bad situations. That evil man destroyed a lot of lives while shoutin' "Halilluia (sp) and putting on his act, and his handiwork has continued to destroy lives long after he died.

Me, I can't run as fast now, but I don't intend to be in a situation where I have to (grin). Naw, if I encounter another one like him I'll whack him upside the head, and I'll bet Jesus would forgive me for it in the end.


50 posted on 09/17/2006 5:56:06 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: punster

Second one this summer for DFW.


51 posted on 09/17/2006 7:22:08 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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I'd roll on the floor, laughing, but who knows what might happen!

ROFL!

(Oh, well. Nothing happened.)

52 posted on 09/17/2006 7:28:49 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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To: pax_et_bonum

Yeah, but that pastor wasn't there! (whew!)


53 posted on 09/17/2006 7:40:07 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (Deja moo: The feeling you've heard this bull before)
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To: Shimmer128

lol!

Eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!


54 posted on 09/17/2006 8:17:02 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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