How dissapointing.
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Why, then, put it out there for any to hear. Was it a history class?
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
St. Peter denied associating with Jesus three times.
Still,it is disheartening to see Western civilization'n leaders afraid to speak the truth.
What good are any weapons if you are afraid to use them?
Wasn't there once something referred to as the Sword of Truth?
54 posted on
09/17/2006 6:42:30 PM PDT by
hoosierham
(Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Please can someone link to a transcript of the ORIGINAL speech he gave?
I have no idea what to think until I know what he said (in full context!)
Thanks in advance.
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
This is surreal...The pope quoted everything Mohammed brought was evil...such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.
Proving this to be a "mis-representation " muslims have burned seven churches and shot a nun.
The west's response??? Have the pope apologize.
70 posted on
09/17/2006 7:05:27 PM PDT by
pfflier
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
How dissapointing.How so? The man is the Pope -
Etymology: Latin pontific-, pontifex, from pont-, pons bridge + facere to make
74 posted on
09/17/2006 7:19:08 PM PDT by
jla
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Sister Leonella Sgorbati, born in 1940, in Piacenza in northern Italy. In Somalia since 2002, she trained nurses at the SOS Kindergarten hospital.
Shoot a nun? Shoot a nun! Screw islam. Bastards!
81 posted on
09/17/2006 7:45:04 PM PDT by
isthisnickcool
(Don't worry, everything will be OK. Or maybe it won't.)
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
How dissapointing.So. What exactly is the Pope's personal opinion of Islam? I don't see that he broadcat his personal opinions for our consideration.
Perhaps his own opinion is even harsher than the Emperor's?
85 posted on
09/17/2006 8:04:28 PM PDT by
siunevada
(If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
There's an old scholastic phrase -- recitando non asserendo. He's just saying the same thing, that he quoted rather than asserted the words.
86 posted on
09/17/2006 8:12:55 PM PDT by
buridan
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
WWJD?
Did Jesus apologize for offending the Pharisees by calling them "hypocrites", "blind fools", "serpents", and a "brood of vipers" who are filled inside with "every kind of filth" and "evildoing"?
When he was hauled before the Jewish leaders whom he raged against, did he say he was sorry for offending them?
When he was turned over to the mobs screaming for his crucifixion, did he make a public "clarification" of what he had said about their religious leaders to quell their anger and try to initiate a "sincere dialogue" with them?
Then neither should the Pope about the Muslims.
But.... although I KNEW the Pope would back down and surrender to the terrorists - it still wrenches my gut to see it happen.
It's Not Just A Gun...It's My "HOMELAND DEFENSE RIFLE"!!
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
I don't see how this is disappointing. The Pope said he was sorry for the "reaction" to his remarks and gave further explanation. The Pope was misrepresented in the press and his remarks were taken totally out of context. He is a head of state (Vatican), not to mention shepherding well more than 1 Billion Roman Catholics world-wide, and as such, every word is measured.
Let's put it this way, IMHO, I think Pope Benedict wants dialogue between Islam and Christianity. The title of the speech given at Regensburg University was: "Faith, Reason and the University Memories and Reflections".
Here's a link to the entire speech:
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg_en.html
Dialogue - an exchange of ideas or opinions on a particular issue, esp. a political or religious issue, with a view to reaching an amicable agreement or settlement. (Just for clarity's sake, lol).
88 posted on
09/17/2006 8:18:56 PM PDT by
khnyny
(God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
which doesn't express in any way whatsoever my personal opinion,
Why did he include it in his speech then? Of course he believes it, as any sane person would who's been breathing on this planet. He realizes just what teeny fused firecrackers with these Islamic mass murdering crazies are, so decided to humor them.
To: jan in Colorado
103 posted on
09/18/2006 12:15:16 AM PDT by
Gondring
(If "Conservatives" now want to "conserve" our Constitution away, then I must be a Preservative!)
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
So our leaders cannot criticize Islam publicly and now they cannot even quote other people in history who were criticizing Islam ? Screw that. We have Free Speech in the West. We can criticize anyone we want for any reason we want. It is perhaps enlightening however to note the similarity in the response of Islamic Fascists to criticism and the response of the Clinton Fascists to recent criticism (Path to 911). It is obvious now that both Islamic Fascists and their Progressive Fascists brethren are both against free speech. Another common negative character trait is found within the Unholy Alliance.
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
The pope should be glad his story did not have cartoons... he would REALLY be reeling now...
105 posted on
09/18/2006 4:08:36 AM PDT by
dubie
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
'"This was a citation from a medieval text which doesn't express in any way whatsoever my personal opinion," he said.'
These hypersensitive idiots.
Reminds me of every thing you say in front of liberals could condemn you, no matter if you were just quoting someone else.
111 posted on
09/18/2006 6:45:02 AM PDT by
the OlLine Rebel
(Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
So much for frank and sincere dialog w/ murders.
112 posted on
09/18/2006 6:45:31 AM PDT by
Pietro
To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
A true commentary on how the Catholic Church has become the home of pedophiles and weinys when it comes to spreading God's words.
115 posted on
09/18/2006 6:58:48 AM PDT by
hgro
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