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Larry Sabato Recants, Didn't Hear Allen
Newsmax ^ | 9/27/06 | Newsmax Staff

Posted on 09/27/2006 7:42:34 AM PDT by truthandlife

One of Virginia's best-known political analysts said he had never personally heard Sen. George Allen use racial epithets, despite saying on television a day earlier that the senator "did use the n-word."

Larry J. Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics, said Tuesday in an e-mail to The Associated Press, "I didn't personally hear GFA (Allen's initials) say the n-word.

"My conclusion is based on the very credible testimony I have heard for weeks, mainly from people I personally know and knew in the '70s," Sabato wrote.

Sabato, a classmate of Allen's at the University of Virginia in the early 1970s, said Monday on MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Matthews" that he knew Allen had used racial slurs, but declined to say whether he had witnessed them.

Allen, a Republican who had been mentioned as a presidential contender and is now fighting an unexpectedly difficult race for a second U.S. Senate term, had said through a campaign aide that Sabato's claim was inaccurate.

"We're obviously glad that Mr. Sabato clarified his comments," said Dick Wadhams, Allen's campaign manager. "We remain committed to trying to dispel these erroneous stories that have been out there."

Also Tuesday, Allen's Democratic opponent, Jim Webb, declined to say definitively whether he had ever used a racial slur to describe blacks.

"I don't think that there's anyone who grew up around the South that hasn't had the word pass through their lips at one time or another in their life," Webb told reporters.

Webb referred to his novel, "Fields of Fire," which aides said includes passages using the n-word as part of character dialogue. But he added: "I have never issued a racial or ethnic slur."

Asked for clarification of his original answer, spokeswoman Jessica Smith quoted Webb as saying, "I have never used that word in my general vocabulary or in any derogatory way."

She declined to say whether he had ever used the word apart from when he wrote his book.

Allegations of racial insensitivity by Allen dating to his high school days in California have become a major distraction for the senator since August, when he called a Webb campaign volunteer of Indian descent "macaca." The word is considered a racial slur in some cultures.

On Monday, a former football teammate of Allen's, Dr. Ken Shelton, said he heard Allen frequently use a common slur applied to blacks among white friends while in college. Allen called the claim "ludicrously false" and released statements from four other ex-teammates defending the senator and rejecting Shelton's claims.

Also in interviews with the AP and Salon.com late Sunday, Shelton claimed that on a hunting trip to Louisa County in 1973 or 1974, Allen stuffed the severed head of a female deer into the oversized mailbox of a black household near Bumpass, Va., 40 miles east of the university.

But in interviews Tuesday, two Louisa County sheriff's deputies who were on the force in the early '70s said that they recall no complaints about severed animal heads.

Retired Lt. Robert Rigsby said he was in charge of investigations in the early '70s, and any such report would have gone through him.

"I think that's a myth," Rigsby said.


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1 posted on 09/27/2006 7:42:35 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: truthandlife

Nice goin', Larry. You're doing one helluva job.

Putz.


2 posted on 09/27/2006 7:43:38 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: truthandlife

shut up larry


3 posted on 09/27/2006 7:43:42 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: truthandlife

He did hear it before he didn't.


4 posted on 09/27/2006 7:43:43 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

HA!


5 posted on 09/27/2006 7:44:12 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: truthandlife

Larry Sabato is now urgently in search of his credibility...


6 posted on 09/27/2006 7:44:15 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Liberals: People whose relationship to reality appears to be somewhat tenuous.)
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To: truthandlife

Well, that's nice. Smear crap on a guy, let it dry, then try to wipe it off later...


7 posted on 09/27/2006 7:44:37 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Once again, raw sewage has overflowed into the arab street)
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To: truthandlife

Who the hell cares about this crap? Certainly not the party of KKK Robert Byrd.


8 posted on 09/27/2006 7:44:41 AM PDT by zendari
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To: truthandlife
Someone should ask Sabato why, after 30 years, he is just hearing about it from his friends "in the last few weeks".

This effort is so obviously cooridinated. Sabato is a smart guy and should be able to see right through it.

9 posted on 09/27/2006 7:44:49 AM PDT by Pete
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To: truthandlife
The Democrat plan is to make as many sick allegations as possible, even is false. It's bound to do some damage.
10 posted on 09/27/2006 7:45:02 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: truthandlife

Moron.


11 posted on 09/27/2006 7:45:13 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie.)
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To: truthandlife

Larry you Macaca.


12 posted on 09/27/2006 7:45:16 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: truthandlife
"My conclusion is based on the very credible testimony I have heard for weeks, mainly from people I personally know and knew in the '70s," Sabato wrote.

Good grief, what a scumbag.

At least he decided to recant.

13 posted on 09/27/2006 7:45:19 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: truthandlife

I think Mr. Sabato, and the shabby reporting of this story, has seriously damaged the man's credibility.


14 posted on 09/27/2006 7:45:27 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: Keith in Iowa

I can;t understand why Sabato got involved at all. His unbiased "political credibility" is forever damaged. I know he was always bias towards the left but many see him with his firneds at Fox News and take him as balanced.


15 posted on 09/27/2006 7:47:08 AM PDT by Republican Red ("There’s God, then there’s the president and then there’s my father.”- 6 yr old Jack Roberts)
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To: Corin Stormhands

filing


16 posted on 09/27/2006 7:47:23 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: truthandlife
Chrissy and guests are one big giant smear machine, Slanderball should be taken off the air.

MSNBC should be sued, as should Matthews.
17 posted on 09/27/2006 7:47:37 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: truthandlife
The democrats, MSM and left wing RINOS are in full panic mode over our next POTUSA.

This is even worse than them saying "George Bush danced naked on a bar while drunk".
18 posted on 09/27/2006 7:48:37 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: Miss Marple
Do you know that John Scott interviewed Sabato this morning, and didn't ask his ONE question about this?
19 posted on 09/27/2006 7:48:59 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("And you got that little smirk on your face, and you think you're so clever!")
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To: truthandlife
And it is nice to see Webb get a taste of his own medicine....

Associated Press--Also Tuesday, Allen's Democratic opponent, Jim Webb, declined to say definitively whether he had ever used a racial slur to describe blacks.

"I don't think that there's anyone who grew up around the South that hasn't had the word pass through their lips at one time or another in their life," Webb told reporters.

Webb referred to his novel, "Fields of Fire," which aides said includes passages using the n-word as part of character dialogue. But he added: "I have never issued a racial or ethnic slur."

Asked for clarification of his original answer, spokeswoman Jessica Smith quoted Webb as saying, "I have never used that word in my general vocabulary or in any derogatory way."

She declined to say whether he had ever used the word apart from when he wrote his book.

20 posted on 09/27/2006 7:49:10 AM PDT by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: Petronski
At least he decided to recant.

Yeah, right. More like, "Well, we hitched our wagon to yet another piece of garbage story that couldn't withstand the slightest real scrutiny, and now we've got the NYT to continue the charge by dredging up even more of these losers, so let's just move on to the next smear and forget this episode ever happened."

21 posted on 09/27/2006 7:49:23 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: truthandlife

Mark Levin ripped Sabato a new one last night. I guess Larry was listening.


22 posted on 09/27/2006 7:49:47 AM PDT by montag813
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To: truthandlife

Larry's rug must be on too tight.


23 posted on 09/27/2006 7:49:47 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: RexBeach

I ashamed to say I took his class at Virginia.


24 posted on 09/27/2006 7:49:48 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: CFC__VRWC

I like your version better. ;OD


25 posted on 09/27/2006 7:50:30 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: truthandlife

26 posted on 09/27/2006 7:50:57 AM PDT by maggief
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I missed it...I was doing some stuff around the house.

Perhaps Sabato has a long-term contract with Fox and they don't want to undermine his "expert" status.

Can you tell I am growing increasingly cynical?

27 posted on 09/27/2006 7:50:58 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look over Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: truthandlife

I notice we are seeing this story on NewsMax, and not on the AP wire.


28 posted on 09/27/2006 7:51:09 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Republican Red

Sabato has ALWAYS been biased hard left since his days down here at Virginia Commonwealth University. I don't think I've ever heard this so-called "expert" not slant things toward a Democratic or liberal candidate and away from a Republican.

I learned a long time ago never to take anything that Larry Sabato says at face value.

}:-)4


29 posted on 09/27/2006 7:51:12 AM PDT by Moose4 (They caught me white and nerdy.)
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To: truthandlife

Why is something that may or most likely did not happened in 1972 important? Is this another BIG story like George Bush getting stopped when he was 21 for drunk driving? If this is an effort to get the black vote for Democraps don't bother,they NEVER vote Republican anyway !!!


30 posted on 09/27/2006 7:51:35 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: truthandlife
I was born and raised in Texas. I can remember each and every person in my adult life who ever said the "N" word around me. It's been at least 10 years since I've personally heard anyone use the "N" word.

My experience has been that the people that are indeed racist and use the "N" word a lot are people you remember. I don't see how Allen could have gotten so far in politics and life if he used the "N" word a lot. Deep seated racism is hard to hide.

31 posted on 09/27/2006 7:51:38 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Don't worry, everything will be OK. Or maybe it won't.)
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To: truthandlife
Well isn't that special!


32 posted on 09/27/2006 7:51:53 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Who is John Scott?


33 posted on 09/27/2006 7:51:54 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: truthandlife
"I don't think that there's anyone who grew up around the South that hasn't had the word pass through their lips at one time or another in their life," Webb told reporters. Webb referred to his novel, "Fields of Fire," which aides said includes passages using the n-word as part of character dialogue. But he added: "I have never issued a racial or ethnic slur."

So, this is what this is about. It's Webb who is accurately accused of using a racial epithet (fair or not). So, to distract attention from THAT, dem forces go on the offensive for him to accuse Allen of it instead, which is completely unverified, as opposed to Webb's which is in print. And Webb is totally wrong. I grew up in Virginia in this era and went to UVA in the early 70's. I'm far from perfect, but I never, ever had that word "pass through my lips." We knew better.

34 posted on 09/27/2006 7:52:01 AM PDT by twigs
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To: truthandlife

Who knew Kinko's had a Center for Politics branch at UVA?


35 posted on 09/27/2006 7:52:24 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (The dems. can't have a fool-proof plan. There would be no one left in their base.)
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To: moose2004

Not to worry. Many people know that Larry is a putz.

But, in fairness, I must say he is a remarkable putz.


36 posted on 09/27/2006 7:52:41 AM PDT by RexBeach (Will Rogers Never Met Bill Clinton.)
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To: 3AngelaD

I think it has hurt Allen in the short run but if Allen is the POTUS candidate I am glad the Dems are firing their shots now. The truth will come out and Allen will be victorious in all of this garbage.


37 posted on 09/27/2006 7:53:05 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: RexBeach
Larry has seriously discredited himself in this episode.
38 posted on 09/27/2006 7:53:43 AM PDT by Beowulf
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To: 3AngelaD

He is a morning anchor on Fox News, the 9:00AM Eastern time slot.


39 posted on 09/27/2006 7:54:24 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter ("And you got that little smirk on your face, and you think you're so clever!")
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To: truthandlife

The libs are threathened by Allen, like they were with DeLay so they have to start a smear campaign...

The sad part of this is people are like sheep, they will believe it and this will ruin the man, like it has with so many others....

And I wouldn't be suprised if the Klinton Campaign machine of the 90's are back in business...if at first we can't get em by smearing, we'll kill them....


40 posted on 09/27/2006 7:54:33 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: RexBeach; A Citizen Reporter; Mo1; elc
Ahem:

To: elc
And what do we know about Professor Sabato, other than he is the "most quoted professor in the land"?

That he's virtually never right?

12 posted on 09/26/2006 10:56:16 AM EDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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41 posted on 09/27/2006 7:55:39 AM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: montag813

Actually it is on the AP wire but it is burried

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15027633


42 posted on 09/27/2006 7:55:50 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Miss Marple

Yep, we were right!

He's NEVER EVER RIGHT ABOUT ANYTHING.

EVER.


43 posted on 09/27/2006 7:56:13 AM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: MaestroLC

"Fields of Fire"
James Webb

Read an Excerpt

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?z=y&ean=9780553583854&displayonly=EXC


44 posted on 09/27/2006 7:56:52 AM PDT by maggief
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To: A Citizen Reporter; Miss Marple
and didn't ask his ONE question about this?

Are you kidding? Well, that confirms it; they DO cherry pick their questions for liberals, i.e., the Clintons.

This is going to be HUGE blowback on Sabato.

45 posted on 09/27/2006 7:57:50 AM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: Beowulf

Precisely.


46 posted on 09/27/2006 7:58:18 AM PDT by Howlin (Declassify the Joe Wilson "Report!")
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To: truthandlife
"My conclusion is based on the very credible testimony I have heard for weeks, mainly from people I personally know and knew in the '70s," Sabato wrote.

Sabato, a classmate of Allen's at the University of Virginia in the early 1970s, said Monday on MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Matthews" that he knew Allen had used racial slurs, but declined to say whether he had witnessed them.

So Sabato has appointed himself judge and jury here? Whatever little credibility he had has just dwindled to nothing.

47 posted on 09/27/2006 7:58:47 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: truthandlife

I certainly plan to vote for him. In no way do I believe he is a bigot. This entire episode is telling me that the Dems are really, really frightentd of him and are willing to go to extraordinary lengths to stop him right now, their strategy being to smear early and often, the same tactics they tried to use against Bush II. Larry Sabato really put his foot in it this time.


48 posted on 09/27/2006 7:59:01 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: Pete

I find Sabato's participation in this curious, too.


49 posted on 09/27/2006 7:59:45 AM PDT by twigs
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To: truthandlife

Accuracy of this claim that matters. It's the seriousness of the charge that's important. /s


50 posted on 09/27/2006 8:00:55 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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