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Toshiba unveils sizes, cost goals for SED TVs (LCDs day's are numbered)
CNET ^ | 10/2/06 | Michael Kanellos

Posted on 10/03/2006 4:21:47 AM PDT by AZRepublican

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To: Always Right

You are right that nobody will care about the numbers.

BUT, these contrast numbers translate into a dramatically better defined picture under all sorts of photographic lighting conditions.

No more will night scenes be a washed out muddied black, but you will actually be able to see things on the screen.

I am dead certain that SED TVs will be the must have consumer electronic item in 2008.


21 posted on 10/03/2006 4:48:44 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: Recon Dad

The minute I think I know what I will look for another type hits the market.


Hi-tech electronic companies have always leaked new technologies at a snail's pace. Their marketing schemes insure profitability well into the future using technology that may be years old.


22 posted on 10/03/2006 4:50:59 AM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: RangerM

Your Betamax comparison is way off the mark. There is no compatibility or programming availability issue here.

This is a matter of buying a fantastic screen and hooking it up.

Oh, and being totally blown away.


23 posted on 10/03/2006 4:51:29 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine
I am dead certain that SED TVs will be the must have consumer electronic item in 2008.

For your very highend consumer. After a certain point you get to the point of diminishing returns. Yeah night scenes will look awesome. But most consumers will not compare night scenes. They will be looking at the ultra-bright scenes in a darkened corner of Best Buy.

24 posted on 10/03/2006 4:53:41 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: AZRepublican
I just bought a new TV yesterday; and it is a CRT type. None of the LCD TVs I looked at had acceptable picture quality. The stores didn't have any plasmas small enough to fit in the room; so I didn't bother looking at them.
25 posted on 10/03/2006 4:53:42 AM PDT by snarkpup
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To: Gaffer
...I have not bought anything from Toshiba since the day I learned that almost 20 years ago....

Actually, they sold the machines to the Soviet Union.

Now that the Soviet Union has been dead and buried for more than 15 years, you might want to consider lightening up on this issue.

26 posted on 10/03/2006 4:54:13 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: AZRepublican

GREAT,
Cant wait for the SED Technology to come to mass production so i can buy a cheap DLP.


27 posted on 10/03/2006 4:56:17 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: snarkpup

I have spent at least $5000 on LCD monitors and know what? I am still using a 19" NEC CRT full time because no LCD can match it.


28 posted on 10/03/2006 4:56:45 AM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: RangerM
Apparently, they haven't learned what happened to Sony's Betamax.

Completely different situation. Betamax was incompatible with other media formats. Since that format did not become the standard, nobody produced their material on that format. In this case, this TV is not dependant on any format. It just displays signals that all TV's receive better. Toshiba would be dumb to give away this technology.

29 posted on 10/03/2006 4:57:12 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

I've been holding out for the SED for almost two years now.

I have seen a couple PDP projection systems that look real good, though. I'm not completely familiar with the principle behind these units, but the result is really great looking, and not too bad on price either. They don't have a burn in problem, either.

Still, I won't get serious until I can put an SED in the mix of possibilities.


30 posted on 10/03/2006 4:59:54 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: AZRepublican
I have spent at least $5000 on LCD monitors and know what? I am still using a 19" NEC CRT full time because no LCD can match it.

I haven't seen any 60" tubes. Shoot, 36" tubes already weight a ton. We are talking TV's more than CRT monitors. This new technology will make big TV's more CRT like.

31 posted on 10/03/2006 5:00:27 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: John Valentine
YOu know what, while I'm sitting here at my computer I only occasionally glance over at the TV.

Doesn't matter what the quality is ~ with 999 channels cable has pretty much turned it into something like a substitute for radio.

32 posted on 10/03/2006 5:00:55 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mewzilla
Only problem is there's still not much on to watch :(

Don't you want to see Alan Colmes in HD 50,000:1 resolution???

:)

33 posted on 10/03/2006 5:02:59 AM PDT by SMM48
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To: John Valentine

"Now that the Soviet Union has been dead and buried for more than 15 years, you might want to consider lightening up on this issue."

I find it ironic that the Mitsubishi, the company that manufactured the Japanesese planes that bombed Pearl Harbor, now sells cars and SUV's in the US.


34 posted on 10/03/2006 5:05:27 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: John Valentine

How much will these sets cost compared to plasma?


35 posted on 10/03/2006 5:06:11 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: mewzilla

"Only problem is there's still not much on to watch :("

The hardware gets better & better but the output gets worse & worse.


36 posted on 10/03/2006 5:09:17 AM PDT by Mac1
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To: wolfcreek
The implication above is the SED format has to be supported by a particular signal? Also you get the impression that SED is only comparable price wise above 55" and may not be even then if the prices keep dropping on the other formats.
On the other had the format sound like the picture is far superior to the other formats!

Their killin me!
37 posted on 10/03/2006 5:10:48 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: Always Right
Plasma TV's contrast ratio are about 10,000 to 1, versus this technology which is 50,000 to 1. That basically means your brights will look brighter and your blacks will lool blacker.

Does this mean that you'll have to wear your sunglasses while you watch TV? Seriously, this is like the great running stereo/speaker wars started in the 70's. A new stereo system or speakers pledged better and better sound. No matter that after a point the human ear couldn't really tell much of a difference, but I'm sure a lot of new equipment was sold!

38 posted on 10/03/2006 5:13:27 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Recon Dad
This is getting complicated. I plan on replacing all the TV's in my house in a year or two when I move. The minute I think I know what I will look for another type hits the market.

The only way out is to buy a boob tube just before you die. But seriously, I have 2, 35 inch tube TVs and they are the best. Mitsubishi and Sony. They're plenty big enough and you don't get that stretched out look you get when you have a wide screen HD Tv and the broadcast isn't in high def.

Can the human eye really see with the clarity that is now being engineered? I'm sure someone is working on in-home holograms, so it won't stop until that is the prevailing technology.

39 posted on 10/03/2006 5:16:17 AM PDT by subterfuge (Do your part to educate a Democrat and keep on FReeping!!)
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To: Always Right

"Completely different situation. Betamax was incompatible with other media formats."

My point was: Would Toshiba rather be receiving licensing royalties or spur competition from other companies?

This was Sony's mistake. If they had licensed betamax, like JVC did with VHS, we might have been using betamax instead of VHS because betamax was the superior technology (at the time). I say this having never owned a betamax.

SED is not going to be the end all/be all in display technology, and unless Toshiba is willing to stifle the competition by allowing others to pay them to use the technology, then they will promote others to develop other (better?) displays.

I already understand that such R&D goes on already, but unless someone has developed something comparable/better than SED, at the same or lower price, then the bean counters would/will insist on paying royalties to Toshiba than producing a more expensive (non-competitive) product.

How is that a "totally different" situation?


40 posted on 10/03/2006 5:16:31 AM PDT by RangerM
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