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Toshiba unveils sizes, cost goals for SED TVs (LCDs day's are numbered)
CNET ^ | 10/2/06 | Michael Kanellos

Posted on 10/03/2006 4:21:47 AM PDT by AZRepublican

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To: John Valentine

The specifics of the actual poltitical entity (Russia was in charge of the FSU, BTW) doesn't matter to me as the need to make a buck in spite of ideology. It speaks volumes about where their loyalties lay. Additionally, Toshiba has not made a TV any better than the other manufacturers that has made enough of a difference to make me want to buy from them.


41 posted on 10/03/2006 5:23:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Obadiah
Does this mean that you'll have to wear your sunglasses while you watch TV?

No. That would be to light output levels. Contrast ratio is the difference (relative brightness) between a totally white picture and and totally black one at a set output level.
42 posted on 10/03/2006 5:23:47 AM PDT by upier ("Usted no es agradable en América" "Ahora deporte Illegals")
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To: Always Right

'Toshiba would be dumb to give away this technology.'

There are only a couple of companies that manufacture all plasma or LED display panels. Other companies buy them and add their own processing. There are surprising differences in picture quality from brand to brand, all using the same displays.


43 posted on 10/03/2006 5:27:41 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: Recon Dad

"The minute I think I know what I will look for another type hits the market."

Here is a good place to get good information on the Home Theater market and where it might be going:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/


44 posted on 10/03/2006 5:28:39 AM PDT by Gvl_M3
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To: Gvl_M3

Thanks very much, I just saved it to my fav list and will check it out.


45 posted on 10/03/2006 5:39:11 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: AZRepublican

I knew there was a good reason for not buying that plasma or LCD big screen high resolution TV - other than the cost. Now I’ll just wait for the high resolution high contrast holographic TVs to come out at a price I’ll be able to afford.


46 posted on 10/03/2006 5:41:23 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: AZRepublican
I have spent at least $5000 on LCD monitors and know what? I am still using a 19" NEC CRT full time because no LCD can match it.

guess you researched LCD's before you bought....gee, i jus kept puttin off a new monitor purchase 'causa procrastination, and it not bein an emergency...now you're suggestin my 10 yr; old IBM P70 17 INCH is still up to snuff-GREAT!!

47 posted on 10/03/2006 5:41:35 AM PDT by 1234 (WHO is Responsible for ENFORCING IMMIGRATION LAWS?)
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To: subterfuge

I'm not complaining about what I'm watching today, but the move we're planning is to a smaller home and flat screens make a big difference. Right now I have 7 and I want to get down to 4.


48 posted on 10/03/2006 5:43:48 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: AZRepublican
I guess I am just different: I sell this type of equipment, including projectors, for nonresidential use. I have a CRT TV and when I replace it I will buy a CRT unit. I see no reason to spend the extra hundreds on a flat panel to watch the tripe that most television is.
49 posted on 10/03/2006 5:45:00 AM PDT by sticker
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
I find it ironic that the Mitsubishi, the company that manufactured the Japanesese planes that bombed Pearl Harbor, now sells cars and SUV's in the US.

Isn’t it something that the “three diamonds” insignia looks like an airplane propeller?

50 posted on 10/03/2006 5:47:50 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: sticker; Recon Dad

I'm getting ready to move to a new home and want to buy a new TV. What should I buy? I want to buy an HDTV for the future, and don't want to go over $2000.


51 posted on 10/03/2006 5:57:46 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: snarkpup

I have to agree. Every LCD TV I have ever seen had absolutely horrible picture quality. I could not believe that people were fooled into believing LCD is better than CRT.


52 posted on 10/03/2006 5:59:00 AM PDT by August West (To each according to his ability, from each according to his need...)
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To: AZRepublican

what is the contrast ratio,
for an old fashion tube TV?


53 posted on 10/03/2006 6:02:48 AM PDT by greasepaint
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

What size are you looking for? That makes a difference


54 posted on 10/03/2006 6:02:53 AM PDT by sticker
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To: AZRepublican
Most people want brightness, not contrast in fact 99% are happy with LCD (750:1 contrast).

DLP is 2000:1, LCOS 10,000:1, CRT 100,000.

The human eye can easily perceive > 100,000 contrast. That is why SED will take over eventually but not as early as 2008 except in high end applications due to high initial price, and size restrictions.


BUMP

55 posted on 10/03/2006 6:15:06 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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To: AZRepublican

Superb performance is a given, the real question is costs. Is this 5X more expensive or 1/5 the cost of a plasma?


56 posted on 10/03/2006 6:20:56 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

In 1995, I bought a Toshiba 36" tube that by today's standard would be an EDTV. It uses artificial intelligence to give a finer picture than it recieves. I paid 2000 for it then and it is still a beautiful, sharp, hi res picture and I don't have to pay for hi def programming. According to Consumer Reports, CRT televisions deliver the best picture quality. They are also cheap and last forever. I would be interested in this new 55" screen, though.


57 posted on 10/03/2006 6:22:22 AM PDT by sportutegrl (This thread is useless without pix.)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
I still have my Toshiba that I bought in 1987. It still works.

I held that same position until I went and checked out a CRT HDTV monitor... It really is insane how incredible a football game looks on a HDTV.

58 posted on 10/03/2006 6:23:20 AM PDT by smith288
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
I'm getting ready to move to a new home and want to buy a new TV. What should I buy? I want to buy an HDTV for the future, and don't want to go over $2000.

Pick out one of your favorite DVDs and find a scene with deep shadow detail and that is relatively free of compression artifacts or other video noise. Take it to the store and watch this scene on candidate TVs.

This greatly simplifies shopping. I just did this and rejected nearly all of the TVs I tried it on. The only TVs that passed this test were a couple of standard definition CRTs; so the choice was easy.

In addition to the absence of shadow detail with LCDs (already discussed in this thread), another problem I have noticed on flat-panel high-def TVs I looked at was excessive video noise when playing standard definition DVDs. Some say this is caused by the interpolation that is necessary when resampling 480 line video at the higher resolution that is native to and required by most flat panel monitors. This is most apparent in darker areas of the picture; so LCD monitors that don't display shadow detail might not exhibit this effect.

59 posted on 10/03/2006 6:26:24 AM PDT by snarkpup
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To: AZRepublican

Toshiba's are the only television and DVD products I'd buy. The just seem to function so much longer and better than other brands I've had.


60 posted on 10/03/2006 6:39:14 AM PDT by CAPTAINSUPERMARVELMAN
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