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Toshiba unveils sizes, cost goals for SED TVs (LCDs day's are numbered)
CNET ^ | 10/2/06 | Michael Kanellos

Posted on 10/03/2006 4:21:47 AM PDT by AZRepublican

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To: sticker

I would like a TV with at least 36", it will be in a fairly good sized family room (16X12).


61 posted on 10/03/2006 6:42:44 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: sticker; snarkpup
From what I have seen on Amazon, if I go with a CRT (recommended by snarkpup), the prices are very reasonable, but most of the TVs are 30" or smaller.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=br_ss_hs/104-5523686-1205525?platform=gurupa&url=index%3Delectronics-aps&keywords=CRT&Go.x=4&Go.y=9
62 posted on 10/03/2006 6:52:53 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: August West

LCDs often look bad in stores because they aren't properly set up and are displaying poor quality video. Stores generally show standard def programming stretched to fit the 16:9 display and turn the brightness up full. You end up watching short, fat, grainy video with oversaturated color.

The only real way to choose an HDTV is to see a properly adjusted set running real HD content. LCDs are the only (non projection) way to get true HD resolution in a reasonable price. Plasmas under 50" only display 1024 X 768 (with rectangular pixels) and most CRTs downsample the display to half 1080i resolution.

Shadow detail is the only area where LCDs really fall down. On the other hand, if you are watching in a bright room, LCDs can compete with strong window light and won't wash out in conditions that ruin CRT and plasma pictures.


63 posted on 10/03/2006 6:53:10 AM PDT by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: sticker

"I guess I am just different: I sell this type of equipment, including projectors, for nonresidential use. I have a CRT TV and when I replace it I will buy a CRT unit. I see no reason to spend the extra hundreds on a flat panel to watch the tripe that most television is."

What HD CRT TV brands in the 32 to 37" size do you recommend?

Our 17 year old RCA with a great Dish Picture will die one of these days.

We are not that impressed with the LCD picture quality we see at various stores, and the variance of picture quality is all over the place.

Like you, don't watch that much tv. It is only on at night for one to 3 hours at the max.

Thanks. I'm looking forward to your imput.


64 posted on 10/03/2006 6:58:27 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (SWIFT BOOT MURTHA!)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Snarkpup has it right; Your eye is a much better indicator of what you want than a ton of tech specs. If weight and floor space aren't a problem, you might want to look closely at the CRTs and DLPs. To me they look better than LCD or plasma units. One thing I will advise, DON'T go too big. Video is best viewed for two to six times the screen width distance. Example: a 37" HDTV display has a screen width of approximately 32", so your optimum viewing would be from right under six feet to about 17 feet. Also, before you go shopping decide if you want HDTV(16:9)format or standard video (4:3)format
65 posted on 10/03/2006 6:59:42 AM PDT by sticker
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To: John Valentine
SED IS that much better. It has blown away everyone who has seen it demonstrated.

Hard for me to envision. I'm already hypnotized at the beauty of the image in plasma TVs, and when I walk past one I have to stop and watch, helpless to move as though held by a magnet, even though I have no interest in the subject matter.

66 posted on 10/03/2006 7:06:40 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: goldstategop

The best plasmas (think latest generation Panasonic and Pioneer HD units) are pretty nice. Better than the best LCDs I've seen, I would venture to say, although the latest, greatest LCDs from Sony that I've seen (full 1920x1080 HD XBR2 models) are also very nice, and higher resolution. Haven't seen the LCD in a controlled environment, though.

When I went looking last year I didn't really need anything as big as even 42" (the smallest common plasma size, although Panasonic makes a 1024x720 HD 37" unit, too). I tried a 37" Sony Plasma, one of the 1024x1024 interlaced units, and while its picture was fantastic on well-lit subjects (wathing the Tonight show you sometimes felt like Jay and the guests were in the room with you), its performance at the dark end of the scale was abysmal. And at CDN$2,799 it was one of the cheapest ones. Of course, now I see 42" LG HD plamas are going for CDN$1,999.

Anyway, I finally settled on a 34" HD CRT, in this case a Panasonic. It's comparable to the non-XBR 34" Sony Trinitron CRT, both in price and performance. I would have like the higher-spec Sony 34" CRT model, but it was almost twice as expensive, and weighs in at 230 lbs (!) compared to the relatively svelte 160 lbs for the one I did get. Being a CRT, it's not perfect - it has some minor ghosting issues and is not perfectly focussed in the corners - but its black level and colour reproduction is fantastic, particularly with HD programming. My XBbox360 looks great on it.


67 posted on 10/03/2006 7:10:37 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Grampa Dave
I hate to say it, but I haven't looked that closely at the HD TVs. From the ones I have looked at Sony, Sharp and Toshiba units hae looked the best to me. I know that is going to start a fuss, TV brand loyalty seems to be as bad if not worse than the old Ford vs Chevy fights. As I said in an earlier post, use your eye: What looks best to you? Different models will have different color temperatures and or differences that affect the way the image looks to you. That is the most important thing, it doesn't matter if one set had a 2000:1 contrast ratio while the other has a 1000:1 ratio, what matters is how the image looks to you.
68 posted on 10/03/2006 7:10:50 AM PDT by sticker
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To: John Valentine

"No more will night scenes be a washed out muddied black, but you will actually be able to see things on the screen."

Assuming you're watching in a darkened room. In even a moderately normally lit room, you'll never notice the difference. Still, current plamas and LCDs can't beat the old CRT's contrast and black levels, so maybe this will be the way to go. I wonder if it will be hideously expensive, which is the real deal breaker for many people. Actually I'm surprised as many people as have done so have shelled out as much as they have for the relatively mediocre picture of (most) large plasmas.


69 posted on 10/03/2006 7:14:06 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: Fairview
Well....it's just like the article states.  The contrast ratio is better and there's no ghosting. 

Heck....LCDs are better than plasmas, having far high resolution.  But the price point on Plasmas is much better as you get into the larger sizes.

DLPs are pretty sweet but, they're too thick for smaller sizes:  you want a 70-inch TV?  Get a DLP.  42-60: plasma.  42 and smaller: LCD.

Each technology has it's strengths and weaknesses:  plasma is prone to burn-in....LCDs are prone to dead pixels....I wonder what SEDs problems will turn out to be.

70 posted on 10/03/2006 7:15:51 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: R. Scott
Same with BMW: their emblem is a stylized, spinning propeller.
71 posted on 10/03/2006 7:17:30 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: August West

I have 2 plasma TV's. A 52 inch HD Plasma in the family room and a 32 inch in the bedroom. The biggest gripe I have is that they look funny when in traditional aspect mode, so I put them in widescreen mode (just about every plasma is a widescreen), but then you get little eddies of gook where the tv is trying to interpolate how to convert the regular aspect signal to a widescreen signal. However, programs that are broadcast in HD, or DVD's, look better on those TV's than any other TV's I have ever owned. Oh, and I got the big TV (Vizio) from Costco for under 2K, and the small TV is some brand I dont remember that starts with an A ... and I paid about a $1000. The no-name brands give you just as good of quality, and maybe even better reliability than the big names. Same time I got my 32, my parents got a similar size & feature Panasonic, and it died 3 months later.


72 posted on 10/03/2006 7:30:37 AM PDT by RainMan (Is it WW3, or Crusade 8? What part of Jihad dont you understand?)
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To: sticker

Thanks. We will probably decide between Sony and Toshiba.

We know 3 couples, who are friends and inherited money for so called home theatres. Each of these so called home theatres cost over $10,000. Two of the flat panel LCDs did not have as good of a picture as our old Dinosaur. The other one might have a comparable picture. Within a year after the new wore off, these families aren't really watching their theatre tv with the exception of football games.

One couple recently removed their so called home theatre system and are using the sound system with their older sterio system. The wife had a plain jane 20 inch tv installed in her kitchen, and it serves mainly as background noise. They now watch tv in their bedroom with their decade old Toshiba. They were 49er and Raider fans, and they said they didn't need to watch losers on a 10k set up.


73 posted on 10/03/2006 7:34:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (SWIFT BOOT MURTHA!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
I find it ironic that the Mitsubishi, the company that manufactured the Japanesese planes that bombed Pearl Harbor, now sells cars and SUV's in the US.

You can say the same about Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Volkswagen, Siemens, ThyssenKrupp, Allianz, and Bayer.

Under the New World Order political entities come and go, but corporate entities endure eternal. ;)

74 posted on 10/03/2006 7:38:43 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: AZRepublican

I am still watching my 60 inch Hitachi "Ultravision" projection TV and can't find a good reason to replace it since we have flogged it for 10 years now and it hasn't missed a beat. I was in Best Buy the other day and saw a 40" Samsung LCD HDTV and fell in love with it but I need at least a 60" TV. Now this. What should I do? I go through any TV store and there are million models there and I don't have a real good idea of what to get. I want reliability, outstanding picture and low energy consumption. Choices, choices, choices.


75 posted on 10/03/2006 9:39:00 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: RichardW

I you a 12,000 lumen, 3-chip DLP projector.


76 posted on 10/03/2006 9:58:48 AM PDT by sticker
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To: Always Right

The 61" DLP from Samsung is very light (feels like half that of a 27 inch tube set) and has a fantastic picture.


77 posted on 10/03/2006 10:04:56 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: Recon Dad

I recently bought a 19 inch flat screen for the bedroom for that very reason-to reduce clutter. It is mounted on the wall and there is so much more room now.


78 posted on 10/03/2006 12:35:09 PM PDT by packrat35 (guest worker/day worker=SlaveMart)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Right - and I think they were a major supplier of aircraft engines.


79 posted on 10/03/2006 2:13:35 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

I'm the last one who should give advice on which TV to buy. I haven't figured it all out myself, yet.


80 posted on 10/03/2006 4:47:37 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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