Sure enough, they're the same person, I knew it!
Posted on 10/04/2006 8:59:53 AM PDT by dvan
We had a neighbor, when I lived in DC, who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane.
Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer.
Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.
The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current President Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them around. When the president flies, there are several planes that also go. One carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft.
Both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air Force and security people could have a day with their families.
WHAT WAS: Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes, Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean spiritedness, ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's presence.
Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady.The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.
Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life.Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all loathed her, and wanted to be on a different detail. Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole.
Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use against her husband.They were embarrassed for his sake, by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors, Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife.
It was crystal clear that the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other, and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience."
Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely.
Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and ccasionally would smile at, or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them.
His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.
WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN: Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton.They were more friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very close in a political way.
Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary, but soon after the election she had her "pegged", and no longer liked her, or associated with her, except for events that were politically obligatory
Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter, and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their security details. Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail.
He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring and pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?"
Word of this insult by the former Vice-president quickly spread, and he became as disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed Al Gore would not be elected President,and they really did have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won.
This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.
WHAT IS: Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest, and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers.
She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation.There is nothing false about her.
This is her genuine nature. Her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."
Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect, and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail.
Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail, and he helps serve their meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection.
He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush. Most of them did not know they would feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent.
It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.
"If that marriage was any MORE about convenience, they'd have to install a SLURPEE machine and a SLIM-JIM stand in the bedroom".
Having said that, the personnel tasked with his protection must keep tight lips before and after so as to protect the Presidency, whomever is filling the office at the time.
Sure enough, they're the same person, I knew it!
Just curious....Does anyone know if the Clinton's ever returned any of the stuff they stole from the White house on their way out?
The story about Nancy points out her Hollywood background.
What she did is exactly how movie extras are handled when setting up a scene, BTDT.
I'm sure I'm missing something here but how can personality of an ex, affect the security of a future president? I agree that stories should wait until after their term unless something ilegeal noticed, but....
I have a relative in the Air Force who told me that the unofficial designation of any plane that Hillary was on was "Broomstick One".
He was probably ratted out by Hanoi Jane for sending secret messages!RE:Post#97
Jeff, while I almost always agree with you, this time I don't. Common sense is the reason. Every single detail in this urban legend is probably known to every foreign government. All of this information is easily attained from casual observation. Also, it isn't just the SS who knows this stuff. I, myself, spoke to a Marine who worked the White House and who told me one or two things. People love to gossip. No way to stop it.
ROFL! How fitting!
I agree. Even the "positives" about Bill seem believable. The guy does have a sort of charisma, even if it is all calculated and insincere. If Bill Clinton were sitting in a bar and I had no idea who he was, or his deplorable personal morals, or what a scumbag he is, I'd probably laugh and joke with the guy over a beer. Hillary, OTOH I'd peg as a coldhearted bitch from the start, again, under the assumption that I'd meet her having no idea who she is, what she has done, or what she belives.
The ex is privy to extremely sensitive and valuable information huimself. The personal information must not be revealed so as to protect that information.
Although two plugs for Gary Aldrich's book are better than one!!
FRegards,
Nonetheless...the Secret Serfvice details know that they must not give out such informtion. That President Bush makes a habit of, or commonly goes to certain aircraft to thank those crews is information, if it becomes known, that an enemy could exploit to significantly increase their ability to target the president in certain situations.
We see him doing this all the time though. It isn't a secret.
The reason Bill hasn't divorced his wife is that she could send him to Death Row if she talked.
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