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PRESIDENTIAL OBSERVATIONS BY THE SECRET SERVICE
NA | NA | Dave Kulow

Posted on 10/04/2006 8:59:53 AM PDT by dvan

We had a neighbor, when I lived in DC, who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane.

Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer.

Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.

The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current President Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them around. When the president flies, there are several planes that also go. One carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft.

Both Bush's made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air Force and security people could have a day with their families.

WHAT WAS: Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea, from exchanging pleasantries with them. Sometimes, Chelsea, miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean spiritedness, ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's presence.

Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady.The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her.

Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life.Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all loathed her, and wanted to be on a different detail. Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole.

Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use against her husband.They were embarrassed for his sake, by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors, Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying.Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife.

It was crystal clear that the Clinton's neither liked nor respected each other, and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience."

Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely.

Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and ccasionally would smile at, or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them.

His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.

WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN: Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton.They were more friendly toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very close in a political way.

Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary, but soon after the election she had her "pegged", and no longer liked her, or associated with her, except for events that were politically obligatory

Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter, and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked Bill Clinton.

Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their security details. Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail.

He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his offspring and pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?"

Word of this insult by the former Vice-president quickly spread, and he became as disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed Al Gore would not be elected President,and they really did have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won.

This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.

WHAT IS: Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest, and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers.

She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation.There is nothing false about her.

This is her genuine nature. Her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."

Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect, and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail.

Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail, and he helps serve their meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection.

He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush. Most of them did not know they would feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent.

It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.


TOPICS: Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; clinton; gore; hillary; kennedy; lbj; secretservice
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To: offduty
Great story!

Thank you for your service.

141 posted on 10/04/2006 10:41:37 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Quilla

Thanks for posting that. I forgot how really cool that was.


142 posted on 10/04/2006 10:44:54 AM PDT by acad1228 (Faithful servant of the Dark Lord Xenu!)
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To: don-o
All during 'Toon's Presidency, my friends and I would modify the toast to the President by adding the words the office, not the man.
143 posted on 10/04/2006 10:48:56 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Natural Law

Ok. That's another one that probably just got picked up by this story:')


144 posted on 10/04/2006 10:49:10 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
We should not see it IMHO. I believe the press should not be privy to such habits, and his detail should not reveal it either. We are at war...we have enemies and whackos who would like to try and hurt or kill our president. IMHO, that info should not be readily available in the least.

Just my opinion, but OPSEC is critical always, particulalry in war.

145 posted on 10/04/2006 10:50:02 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: dvan

Absolutely! Character counts! How you treat those who work for you, reveals alot about who how you see yourself and other people in general.


146 posted on 10/04/2006 10:53:23 AM PDT by Sweet Hour of Prayer
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To: wagglebee
Typical of Dubya's class and professionalism, was when he arranged for the return of Toon from Australia on 9/11.

I'd like to think that Toon would have done the same, but with white trash you never know.

147 posted on 10/04/2006 10:53:58 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Quilla
You Freepers are marvellous.

You can find anything!

Thanks for the great pic.

148 posted on 10/04/2006 10:55:49 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Natural Law
LOL!!
149 posted on 10/04/2006 10:59:38 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: dvan

Did you get this from http://asmalldoseofreality.bloghi.com/2006/01/17/the-secret-service-knows-that-democratic-presidents-and-their-wives-in-some-cases-have-been-skunks.html ?

Are we to believe that a Secret Service agent would spill all this to a neighbor? It all might be true, but this source doesn't cut it as an authority.


150 posted on 10/04/2006 11:01:10 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace

Said much the same thing as the article. Gore and Hillary were despised.


151 posted on 10/04/2006 11:02:18 AM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: defconw

Ping for story of interest.


152 posted on 10/04/2006 11:02:37 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: dvan

Gee, it is really hard to speculate on how King Lurch would have interacted with his secutiry detail.

Man, it could have just gone either way......right?


153 posted on 10/04/2006 11:03:42 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Jeff Head
You can't avoid it IMO. To me that is the SS job. They must know a president's character and be prepared for times when he is most vulnerable.
154 posted on 10/04/2006 11:04:04 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Churchillspirit
The sheeple wanted all the freebies promised by slick willie.....so they ignored the debauchery pointed out by Aldrich.

What this dishonorable couple did to the Travel Office employees is really unforgivealbe.

Most cared only for what they thought they could get from government and didn't care what the government ended up doing TO them.

155 posted on 10/04/2006 11:04:42 AM PDT by OldFriend (Should we wait for them to come and kill us again? President Karzai 9/26/06)
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To: dvan
A little hearsay for you all:

A close friend of mine once worked for a service provider in the White House office building. She witnessed several occasions when Bill, Hillary, Al and Tipper "let their hair down". The funniest involved Tipper in the midst of whining to her SS agent about some sub-par luncheon that she would have to suffer through. When the agent wouldn't respond she turned to my friend and asked what she thought. My friend said something like "well, it looks like you aren't going get what you want so you might as well quit whining about it!" Tipper got up in a huff and left the room followed by the agent who mouthed "thank you" as he walked by. Her opinion of Tipper is that she is phenomenally spoiled brat.

She witnessed the Clintons phony happily married act on a couple of occasions when after walking hand in hand, smiling and waving to the cameras on their way into the White House, Hillary would drop his hand once in the door, leave him and stalk off in a different direction.
156 posted on 10/04/2006 11:09:08 AM PDT by ZChief
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To: Churchillspirit

157 posted on 10/04/2006 11:10:32 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: dvan

Great read, thanks. Just like what we have observed... Hillary - nasty and unapproachable, Bill - the charmer, Laura - first class lady, "W" - genuinely cares.

I was surprised algore said pointing to security detail - 'do you want to grow up like them'? Wonder if algrore ever got his a$$ kicked.


158 posted on 10/04/2006 11:14:19 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: madison10
but the guys probably don't want to say...)

I suspect, hands off the children and rightfully so.
159 posted on 10/04/2006 11:21:04 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Clioman
and there was Barbara Bush (alone) bringing the crew a tray of mugs and a big pot of hot chocolate...

totally in character

Back in my politically active days = I was invited to a luncheon in a private home in Booth Bay - just up the road from Kennybunkport.

There were 16 of 'us' and Barbara Bush =

It was the first time I had met her in person - and with such a small group, is was a unique opportunity to meet, converse and 'get to know' her.

I was 'won over' and gained a new respect for # 41. I figured that if this Lady, with a capitol L, loved and thought so much about him, there must be more to him than I had, up to then, thought.

I knew that she had been born in a 'silver spoon' family, etc,. but her gentle, non-condenscending friendliness and obvious inherent intelligence coupled with feet on the ground common sense, was delightful. And she wasn't above using a plain ole 'wooden spoon' to stir the stew she made herself.

You can bet she didn't just BRING the hot chocolate - she also made it.

160 posted on 10/04/2006 11:25:16 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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