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Watchdog Group Disputes FBI's Claims on E-Mails
washingtonpost.com ^ | oct 6, 2006 | Dan Eggen

Posted on 10/05/2006 8:19:20 PM PDT by blogblogginaway

The watchdog group that first provided the FBI with suspicious e-mails from then-Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) said yesterday that FBI and Justice Department officials are attempting to cover up their inaction in the case by making false claims about the group.

Law enforcement officials said the allegations by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) are without merit, and they stood by allegations that the group had refused to provide some information to the FBI.

The dispute is the latest controversy this week for CREW, a liberal-leaning group that has come under attack from House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) and other Republicans because it has received money from a foundation funded by liberal financier George Soros.

CREW held a news conference Monday to announce that in July it had provided the FBI suspicious e-mails between Foley and a former House page. The group criticized the bureau for not taking more aggressive action and asked Justice Department Inspector General Glenn A. Fine to investigate the FBI's handling of the case.

Law enforcement officials said then that the e-mails did not provide enough evidence of a possible crime to warrant a full investigation. In the e-mails, Foley praises the physical attributes of one page and asks another teenager for his picture.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 200604; 200607; biden; conures; conyers; crew; crewgate; daneggen; fbi; fine; foley; foleygate; georgesoros; glennafine; glennfine; hastert; pervs; powerghraib; soros
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To: bobsunshine
CREW Executive Director Melanie Sloan disputed that account, saying the FBI was given the teen's full e-mail address July 21.

Ahhh,yeah, right. So CREW sent the FBI some email, IMs, etc. and said, "These are from Mark Foley. Go investigate." And the FBI was given the teen's email address. Hmmmm...

Was it a Yahoo.com email address or some other free service that anyone can open with any name they choose? Gee...I can't understand why the FBI couldn't run with that. I guess Ms. Sloan wanted the agents to simply go pressure Foley and pay no mind to the "victims" since there's obviously no need to talk to them.

I'm glad this b!tch works for the dems and not us.

41 posted on 10/05/2006 9:59:36 PM PDT by blake6900
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To: Mo1
Update: IP of StopSexualPredators Admin ID'd As Coming From Royal Oak, Michigan

Edmund's buddy Englander went to U. of MI in Ann Arbor, MI a mere 45 miles away. Maybe the IP is for a local MI ISP that serves both cities? Hopefully the FBI is looking into Englander as well. He may be the cutout between Edmund and CREW.

42 posted on 10/05/2006 10:03:05 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: PhiKapMom; mass55th; piasa; Mia T; ThePythonicCow; Suzy Quzy
Anatomy of a Scandal - How One Man Brought Down the Wolverine Party

As recorded in formal complaints submitted to the election board, a man fitting the description of WP Chair Chip Englander went door-to-door trying to secure votes for his party. He knocked on doors and presented himself as a supporter, but not candidate of the party. After being let in to peoples' rooms, he went to the election web page and asked students to enter their uniqnames and passwords.

According to one report, "I wasn't watching what he did after that, but basically, I turned around and he had the entire ballot filled out for a certain party. I looked at him like he was crazy." In another report, the man "very quickly, because I think he had been doing it all night, clicked all of the Wolverine Party candidates. . I never gave him permission, but he submitted my vote anyway."

Mr. Agrawal disputes this, claiming in an e-mail sent to the Wolverine Party that the Election Board investigated the complaints and found "several rooms" had similar experiences. He further points out that one of the accusers actually supported the Wolverine Party.

Another article I found about Englander's dirty tricks at U. of MI.

Which reminds me, why the hell didn?t all you troglodytes vote for the FRAT Party? They lost, and that stinks! Instead, Chip Englander went and tried to play the magical election fairy, and got the whole damn Wolverine Party disqualified. I bet Chip still has lots of friends. And how about that Hideki? I like the guy, and as soon as he learns how to speak English, I bet he?ll make a damn fine student body President.

And finally, since we?re talking about student bodies, I?d like to congratulate the beautiful girls of Delta Gamma on winning Greek Week. They were paired with another sorority, Pi Kappa Alpha (yes, retards, this is a joke), and like Chip Englander, they like to go around pretending they?re fairies.

My analysis was:

Could it be that Chip Englander is a veteran political dirty trickster, who's gay connections were exploited by the Democrats to blackmail closet Republican gay politicians?

Also another Englander dirty trick in Ventura, CA in 2004.

Maybe this is where Edmund met Englander and told him of the IM logs with Foley?

43 posted on 10/05/2006 10:42:36 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: blogblogginaway
Why do I get the sudden ebullient feeling that this entire Foley Mess is going to explode violently and messily in CREW and company's (LSM/Soros'/DNC's) faces?

Jack.
44 posted on 10/05/2006 10:53:12 PM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: Echo Talon
WTF, how can they refuse to cooperate with the FBI?

We're talking about the same bunch that managed to get away with stealing over 900 FBI files.

45 posted on 10/05/2006 11:38:47 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: blake6900

Limburger smells better than this whole story. The only people worse that Foley himself are those who are trying to make political gains from it by protecting a child molester for maximum media damage.


46 posted on 10/05/2006 11:42:39 PM PDT by bpjam (Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaida - The Religion of Peace)
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To: blogblogginaway

--Watchdog Group Disputes FBI's Claims on E-Mails--

Liberal Newspaper Ignores Democratic Political Motivations Behind Page Sex Scandal


47 posted on 10/05/2006 11:43:24 PM PDT by rfp1234 (I've had it up to my keyster with these leaks!!! - - - Ronald Reagan)
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To: blogblogginaway

'watchdog'??? More like 'attack dog'!!


48 posted on 10/05/2006 11:44:12 PM PDT by bpjam (Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaida - The Religion of Peace)
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To: bpjam

"The only people worse that Foley himself are those who are trying to make political gains from it by protecting a child molester for maximum media damage."

It almost looks as though Rep. Foley was a fool for resigning in the first place - everyone's overlooking him now.


49 posted on 10/05/2006 11:47:00 PM PDT by decal (Building a wall on the border is like treating lung cancer with cough syrup.)
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To: A Citizen Reporter; Cindy; Howlin
Today when Cavuto asked Soros about this, Soros said that he contributes money, but knows nothing about what these groups do.

No, of course he doesn't know a thing, not a thing... like Saddam Hussein, he just delegated his dirty deeds to the dirtiest folks and let them do what came natural for them...

....To the extent that the Shadow Party can be said to have an official launch date, July 17, 2003 probably fits the bill.[10] On that day, a team of political strategists, wealthy donors, leftwing labor leaders and other Democrat activists gathered at Soros’ Southampton beach house on Long Island. Aside from Soros, the most noteworthy attendee was Morton H. Halperin. Soros had hired Halperin in February 2002, to head the Washington office of his tax-exempt Open Society Institute – part of Soros’ global network of Open Society institutes and foundations located in more than 50 countries around the world. Given Halperin’s history, the appointment revealed much about Soros’ political goals.

Halperin has a long and controversial track record in the world of Washington intrigue, dating back to the Johnson Administration. Journalists sympathetic to Halperin’s leftwing sentiments give him high marks for blowing the whistle on the Vietnam War, but his activism helped undermine America’s war effort and contributed to the Communist victory.

 The Johnson Defense Department placed Halperin in charge of compiling a secret history of U.S. involvement in Vietnam, based on classified documents. This secret history later emerged into public view as the so-called “Pentagon Papers.” Halperin and his deputy Leslie Gelb assigned much of the writing to leftwing opponents of the war, such as Daniel Ellsberg who, despite his background as a former Marine and a military analyst for the Rand Corporation, was already evolving into a New Left radical. In his memoir, Secrets, Ellsberg admits to concluding, as early as 1967, that, “we were not fighting on the wrong side; we were the wrong side” in the Vietnam War. [11] Evidently Ellsberg had come to view Ho Chi Minh’s Communist regime as the wave of the future.

With Halperin’s tacit encouragement – and perhaps active collusion – Ellsberg stole the secret history and released  it to The New York Times, which published the documents as “The Pentagon Papers” in June 1971.[12]This was a violation of the Espionage Act, which forbids the removal of classified documents from government buildings. Not surprisingly, “The Pentagon Papers” echoed Halperin’s long-standing position that the Vietnam War was unwinnable, and ridiculed Presidents Kennedy and Johnson for stubbornly refusing to heed those of their advisors who shared this opinion. It marked a turning point in America’s failed effort to keep Indo-China from falling to the Communists. The government dropped its case against Ellsberg as Nixon’s power collapsed during the Watergate intrigues.

Halperin went on to become the director of the American Civil Liberties Union from 1984 to 1992 and head of its "National Security Archives." From this position, he waged open war against U.S. intelligence services, through the courts and the press, seeking to strip the government of virtually any power to investigate, monitor or obstruct subversive elements and their activities.[13] It did not take long for Halperin to go the next logical step and argue for abolishing America’s intelligence  services altogether. “Using secret intelligence agencies to defend a constitutional republic is akin to the ancient medical practice of  employing leeches to take blood from feverish patients. The intent is therapeutic, but in the long run the cure is  more deadly than the disease,” Halperin wrote in his 1976 book, The Lawless State: The Crimes of the U.S. Intelligence  Agencies.[14]

In a March 21, 1987 article in The Nation, Halperin expanded on this theme and, like Ellsberg, took the position that America was the real villain in the Cold War. He wrote, “Secrecy does not serve national security. Covert operations are incompatible with constitutional  government and should be abolished.”[15] This was a call for unilateral disarming of our intelligence services to match the universal disarmament of our military which has long been a staple of the radical agenda.

Evidently, Soros wishes Halperin to continue his war on America’s intelligence services. According to an Open Society Institute press release, one of Halperin’s principal assignments on the Soros team is to battle “post-September 11 policies that threaten the civil liberties of Americans.” [16]
---[16] Andrea Pringle, “George Soros Opens Washington Office: Wants Open Society Institute to Have Added Impact on Policy” (press release), Open Society Institute, Washington DC, 10 June 2002 ....

------- "The Shadow Party: Part I," By David Horowitz and Richard Poe, FrontPageMagazine.com, October 6, 2004


50 posted on 10/05/2006 11:57:36 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: piasa

Yesterday's history affects today's living history...and so it goes.

THANK YOU piasa for the ping to this post.


51 posted on 10/06/2006 12:07:07 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Interesting article here if the link works: The Shadow Party
52 posted on 10/06/2006 12:16:07 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Eva
This guy agrees!
53 posted on 10/06/2006 12:16:18 AM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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To: blogblogginaway

54 posted on 10/06/2006 12:17:54 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: blogblogginaway
BWAHAHAHAHA!
In the e-mails, Foley praises the physical attributes of one page and asks another teenager for his picture.
The wheel is turning...
They still aren't distinguishing between the e-mails and the IM's but note that it's now "one page" (oblique recognition that he is/was an adult) and "another teenager".
...and the 'distancing' is already evident.
It's comical.
55 posted on 10/06/2006 12:25:03 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: blogblogginaway
BTW, that "another teenager" snippet is a subtle way of insinuating that both are teens and the gullible won't recognize it for what it is.
Got to read this stuff carefully.
56 posted on 10/06/2006 12:31:41 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: anymouse

Interesting find!


57 posted on 10/06/2006 12:39:17 AM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: blogblogginaway
Looks like CREW will be needing a lifeboat soon.

No kidding!

58 posted on 10/06/2006 12:45:36 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: anymouse
Proposal for the next Freeper Poll:
How should CREW be interrogated:

59 posted on 10/06/2006 1:55:49 AM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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To: blogblogginaway; piasa; Fedora; backhoe; All

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200610/CUL20061006a.html

"Conservatives Accuse Watchdog Group of 'Christianophobia'"
By Monisha Bansal
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
October 06, 2006

ARTICLE SNIPPET: "(CNSNews.com) - A liberal government watchdog group has asked the Secret Service to release its records of prominent conservative Christian leaders' visits to the White House, but one of those leaders called the request "an act of Christianophobia."

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request on Wednesday. The group said in the request that the records are "likely to contribute to the public's understanding of the influence that conservative Christian leaders have, or attempt to have, on the president in the exercise of his authority."

The Secret Service has 20 business days to respond to the request for records pertaining to James Dobson of Focus on the Family, Gary Bauer of American Values, Wendy Wright of Concerned Women for America, Louis Sheldon and Andrea Lafferty of the Traditional Values Coalition, Paul Weyrich of the Free Congress Foundation, Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, Don Wildmon of American Family Association, and Jerry Falwell of Liberty University.

"These are people that are publicly identifiable as leaders of what I would call the Christian right, and we are interested to know the extent of influence that they may have had on the president and his policies," Anne Weismann, chief counsel for CREW, told Cybercast News Service.

"It's one thing to know that people have influence and have support of the president, but I don't know that that answers the question about the degree to which they have access and influence to the president and his staff on a day-to-day basis," Weismann added.

But Wright, president of Concerned Women for America, told Cybercast News Service that she questioned CREW's motives in not seeking information about other religious groups who visit the White House, calling it "an act of Christianophobia."

Lafferty, executive director of the Traditional Values Coalition, said CREW is "targeting people who represent millions and millions of Christians, and this is clearly an attempt to harass and to intimidate.""


60 posted on 10/06/2006 2:36:06 AM PDT by Cindy
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