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'In 20 years, there will be no more Christians in Iraq'
Guardian ^ | October 6, 2006 | Mark Lattimer

Posted on 10/07/2006 5:14:38 PM PDT by NYer

Three years after the invasion of Iraq, it's believed that half the Christians in the country have fled, driven out by bomb attacks, assassinations and death threats. So why haven't the coalition forces done more to protect them?

Three members of his family had already been murdered before Shamon Isaac decided to leave Baghdad. First, his son-in-law Raid Khalil was killed in January 2005 as he fled gunmen who had tried to pull him and his father into a minibus. Like many Christians, Khalil had received a death threat signed by the Islamic Army in Iraq. He left behind a widow and baby girl, who is now nearly two.

Four weeks after Khalil was killed, Isaac's brother was stopped at a checkpoint by seven men in Iraqi army uniforms as he was on his way to collect passports to take his family out of the country. "People in the neighborhood shouted to his daughter that her father had been assassinated," Isaac said, "and she came out and found his body in the street." Then last August Isaac's brother-in-law was shot dead in his shop by three gunmen.

Finally Isaac and his family had no choice. When in January, cars started to circle the family home in al-Dora with men shooting in the air, they escaped to another Baghdad neighborhood, al-Jediya. But major demonstrations were taking place throughout the Muslim world in response to the Danish cartoons and on January 29 bombs ripped through seven churches in Baghdad, Mosul and Kirkuk, killing 16. Then one day a man walked into the small shop that the family had just opened next to their new home, bought some cigarettes and walked out, but not before he had left a letter on the counter. On opening it, they found it contained a single word: "Blood."

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1 posted on 10/07/2006 5:14:40 PM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 10/07/2006 5:18:50 PM PDT by NYer ("It is easier for the earth to exist without sun than without the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.” PPio)
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To: SJackson

Ping!


3 posted on 10/07/2006 5:20:04 PM PDT by NYer ("It is easier for the earth to exist without sun than without the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.” PPio)
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To: NYer

I am involved in a group called Crescent Project, an organization devoted to bringing Christ to Islam. Christianity is really growing in the Middle East. It is estimated there 35,000 Christians in Iran.


4 posted on 10/07/2006 5:22:47 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: NYer

Or Western Europe.


5 posted on 10/07/2006 5:23:11 PM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated thanks to President Bush and his expert--and ATTENTIVE--leadership!)
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To: NYer

I just spoke to a Chaldean lady who belongs to my parish. I asked her what she thought about the situation in Iraq. She said the untold story there is the Christians. 35 years ago when she left, they were the only Christians in the neighborhood. The Muslims would bring candles to their home altar because they have a huge devotion to Mary (they believe that Miriam and her son were actually sinless). She says now in Mosul, where her family is from, Christians dare not leave their houses. Her sister-in-law was here but went back because her husband refused to leave his sons who could not get Visas. She says it is horrible.

She firmly believes that Mary is the key. She believes that Our Lady of Fatima (I didn't know that the town was named for the wife of the founder who was a converted Muslim) may help with the softening of Muslim souls.


6 posted on 10/07/2006 5:27:25 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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7 posted on 10/07/2006 5:34:35 PM PDT by Coleus (RU-486 Kills babies and their mothers, Bush can stop this as Clinton started through executive order)
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To: netmilsmom
named for the wife

Correction Fatima Zahra, daughter of prophet Muhammad and wife of the 4th Caliph of Islam Ali.

8 posted on 10/07/2006 5:54:23 PM PDT by badpacifist (As long as you are above ground you can still get it right)
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To: NYer
Islam and Freedom are eternal enemies. When Bush let the Iraqis put together their worthless crap constitution that states that NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM, our President placed our troops in the ridiculous position of fighting for islam.

He needs to do a Harriet maneuver, and point US in the right direction
....FIGHTING AGAINST ISLAM.
9 posted on 10/07/2006 5:55:28 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ((FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.))
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To: NYer
'In 20 years, there will be no more Christians in Iraq'

And then God will turn out the lights.

10 posted on 10/07/2006 6:24:48 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: NYer

Heck, in 20 years there will be darn few Christians left in America!


11 posted on 10/07/2006 6:53:26 PM PDT by Lucretia Borgia (Who ever said the pen is mightier than the sword never met automatic weapons.)
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To: Kimmers

"I am involved in a group called Crescent Project, an organization devoted to bringing Christ to Islam."

Is it not a capital offense against islam, to convert away from it? According to their good book?


12 posted on 10/07/2006 7:01:39 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: NYer
The persecution continues:

‘Serious’ threats made against 31 churches in Indonesia[Catholics and Protestants
Saudi Arabia arrests Eastern-rite Catholic priest for celebrating Mass
Catholic Priest Arrested and Expelled from Riyadh
Ramallah: Islamic violence targets Christians
Moslem Terror Chasing Out 1,000 Christian Arabs a Year

INDIA: VIOLENCE SCARS EASTER WEEK (Pastors beaten, churches vandalized by Hindu extremists)
GFA Urges Prayer as Hindu Extremists Intensify Anti-Christian Persecution
Persecution of Catholics still alive, oppression’s face fanatic, traditional
The community of Arab Christians is dwindling in the Holy Land
Christian martyr in 'European' Turkey

(Irish) Teen Killed Just for Being Catholic, Says Priest
Vatican Unease Over Islamic Countries
Priest stabbed in Turkey in third recent assault against Catholic clergy
Mother Teresa’s Sisters Are Hostage to Fanatic Hinduists
Discriminating Against Religion

India's bishops condemn deadly blasts in Mumbai
Priest abducted in Baghdad threatened and tortured
Salesian Priest, 70, Stabbed in Germany (by a Turk)
Muslim Militants Attack Catholic School in Kashmir
Murdered Nun Asked Forgivness for (Ismaofacist Scum) Killers As She Lay Dying

Three men sentenced to death denied last Sacraments in Indonesia
Indonesia Executes 3 Catholics Over Muslim Deaths
Indonesia Government Executes Christians: Firing Squad
Radical Muslims attack two churches Iraq: demand catholics post condemnation of pope's words
Boy slave 'crucified' by Sudanese Muslim

'In 20 years, there will be no more Christians in Iraq'

13 posted on 10/07/2006 7:09:59 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: netmilsmom

**She firmly believes that Mary is the key. She believes that Our Lady of Fatima (I didn't know that the town was named for the wife of the founder who was a converted Muslim) may help with the softening of Muslim souls.**

Say the Rosary!


14 posted on 10/07/2006 7:11:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Lucretia Borgia
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15 posted on 10/07/2006 7:13:31 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
'In 20 years, there will be no more Christians in Iraq'

Not to say that's not possible, but as the German Jew said in Jerusalem in 1948, a whole hell of a lot can happen in twenty years.

16 posted on 10/07/2006 7:14:51 PM PDT by RichInOC (SATAN: WIE GEHT'S ADOLF!! IHRE GANZE SEELE SIND GEHOEREN UNS. HITLER: WAS SIE SAGEN!!)
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To: NYer
Memorial, Our Lady of the Rosary, October 7th
17 posted on 10/07/2006 7:15:19 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RichInOC
You must be talking about this quote??

First They Came for the Jews

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
Pastor Martin Niemöller

Community and individuality are not opposites. People cannot survive on their own. When the odds are stacked against you, you must rally with the oppressed and hated.

When a growing oppressive regime is taking hold, you must act, otherwise you will soon face your enemy alone and hopeless.

Strength of community is a strength as much as individualism, as long you are willing to face weaknesses in your own community. Ignoring slacking values will mean that you will be rallied against by those you oppress.

Niemöller affirms we must rally against unhealthy organized regimes. We must also stay vigilant with those that appear to be good natured, as all organisation attracts corruption. Niemöller also warns us that if it is you who are corrupt, then you will face a stronger combined force of foe!
Vexen Crabtree

18 posted on 10/07/2006 7:16:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

bump


19 posted on 10/07/2006 7:16:46 PM PDT by VOA
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To: NYer
[ 'In 20 years, there will be no more Christians in Iraq' ]

Could be tomorrow or last week..

20 posted on 10/07/2006 7:17:37 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole.)
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