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Muslims not trying to fit with society, says Amis
The Times (UK) ^ | Oct, 9, 2006 | Ben Hoyle

Posted on 10/09/2006 9:57:41 AM PDT by PRePublic

Edited on 10/09/2006 10:17:12 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

MUSLIMS are not doing enough to engage with Britain’s otherwise thriving multicultural society, Martin Amis has said.

Commenting on the recent row over Islamic veils, the author said at the Festival: “The only element that’s not fitting in is Islam. Who else is not fitting in?”

Amis, who has written extensively about Islamist terrorism, and wrote a short story imagining the last days of Muhammad Atta, the 9/11 hijacker, said that home-grown terrorism was a separate problem, bound up in the allure that “death cults” have to the vulnerable young men who become suicide bombers.

“In this country what’s happening is that young men in late adolescence and early manhood have a period of self-hatred and disgust and thoughts of suicide,” he said. “The idea you can turn this into world history is tremendously powerful.

“The absolutely crucial thing is to see whether it mutates. Death cults take on a terrible momentum.”

The allure of a philosophy based on the rejection of reason and embrace of death was intense but short-lived, Amis said. However, if this fused with a sense of the individual exerting an influence on history “then al-Qaedaism will mutate as we feared”.

Amis, 57, returned to Britain last month after 2? years in Uruguay, where part of his wife’s family lives. He said that he had been struck by how successful British society appeared when viewed through fresh eyes. “It looks like a multicultural society that’s working apart from a few miserable bastards.”

Amis’s father, Sir Kingsley, was a passionate communist who became a virulent anti-communist after the Soviet Union’s crushing of the Hungarian Uprising in 1956.

Amis himself is suspicious of ideologies and says he welcomes the similarity between the two main political parties in Britain. “All the big [political] battles have been won. We no longer rule a quarter of the world but we are supposed to feel relieved about that because we don’t like empires, do we?” he said.

“What we have now in England is an evolved market state that doesn’t feel humiliated about the loss of its position at the highest table. The result seems to be an increasing concentration on surfaces, outlines and glitter without substance.

“As The New Yorker said, ‘the Brits are now at the point where they feel Schadenfreude about themselves’.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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Amis condemns Muslim extremists as 'miserable bastards' http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2395302,00.html

Muslims not trying to fit with society, says Amis MUSLIMS are not doing enough to engage with Britain’s otherwise thriving multicultural society, Martin Amis has said... . “It looks like a multicultural society that’s working apart from a few miserable bastards.”

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/news/article1822165.ece

Amis condemns Muslim extremists as 'miserable bastards' http://www.smh.com.au/news/books/into-the-head-of-a-terrorist/2006/10/08/1160246008496.html Into the head of a terrorist. "It's their own past they [Muslims] are pissed off about; their great decline," Amis said in a recent interview.

1 posted on 10/09/2006 9:57:43 AM PDT by PRePublic
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To: PRePublic

Martin Amis insults fatherless children everywhere!


2 posted on 10/09/2006 10:30:31 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: PRePublic

"Miserable Bastards" sums it up pretty well. I've always enjoyed calling somebody I've disliked a "miserable bastard". It's a good, solid, all-purpose insult.


3 posted on 10/09/2006 10:31:50 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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I didn't know that his dad, Kingsley Amis, was a commie at one time, I was as a fan. It amazes me how many of the privileged in the UK were rabid commies in their youth.


4 posted on 10/09/2006 10:32:13 AM PDT by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State, rats are evil.)
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To: PRePublic; Admin Moderator
The headline on your post is incorrect and also misleading. The actual headline reads as follows:
Muslims not trying to fit with society, says Amis

And note the following passage:

Amis, 57, returned to Britain last month after 2 1/2 years in Uruguay, where part of his wife’s family lives. He said that he had been struck by how successful British society appeared when viewed through fresh eyes. “It looks like a multicultural society that’s working apart from a few miserable bastards.”

5 posted on 10/09/2006 10:32:37 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: PRePublic

Islam is like the Borg for you trekkies, they don't want to be assimiated they want to assimilate you for their nefarious purposes.


6 posted on 10/09/2006 10:34:15 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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7 posted on 10/09/2006 10:57:19 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: PRePublic

Gee...ya think!!!


8 posted on 10/09/2006 10:58:27 AM PDT by mo
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To: PRePublic

If they oppose the current society by their attitude and actions, people move out of the neighborhood. Then they take over and keep expanding.

If they pretend to assimilate, it slows down their takeover plan, but they will still multiply faster than we do and take over.

The only solution is to keep them out.


9 posted on 10/09/2006 11:03:58 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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Well, yes.
The Koran teaches that they are not supposed to have friends or protectors from among unbelievers (except for protection from other unbelievers).
They're just followin' their religion, man. Whats the problem (other than the explosions, riots, gangs, etc.)?
10 posted on 10/09/2006 11:06:20 AM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: Little Ray

Slash the dole and watch em go nuts.


11 posted on 10/09/2006 11:12:11 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: PRePublic

Captain Obvious strikes again.


12 posted on 10/09/2006 11:13:49 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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When you don't have an identity to start with (um, multiculturalism) you're not encouraging engagement, but separation. Duh. But then we're well on our way there, too.


13 posted on 10/09/2006 11:27:37 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: PRePublic

You can call it Islamic Colonialism, Islamic Separatists, Islamic Supremacists, or Islamic Imperialism, but it does need to be recognized for what it is; a challenger to the "status quo" and something that rejects the host nation.


14 posted on 10/09/2006 11:29:19 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Little Bill

George Orwell was a proud socialist until he saw the Socialist left unwilling to denouce Communist Russia.


15 posted on 10/09/2006 11:30:35 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: AmericanChef

It had to be a mental disorder (liberal guilt?) that led so many damned intellectuals to want to try to supress and subvert the works of dead white males.

Self-loathing perhaps?


16 posted on 10/09/2006 11:31:42 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: PRePublic

They are trying to make the society fit with them: murder, rape, death threat, head slicing, bombing trains, wailing and crying over "discrimination".
Time for expulsion.


17 posted on 10/09/2006 11:32:41 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Beware the Leftist Marxist-Islamist Alliance. They all want us dead.)
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To: Little Bill; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow; AnAmericanMother; All
Regarding privilege and youthful politics, a small correction in this one instance:
Sir Kingsley Amis grew up in an unprepossessing two-up, two-down semi-detached in the dreary southwest London suburb of Norbury, near Croydon, an underprivileged, unbeautiful, and boring place. He was an only child of middle-class parents. His father, “the most English human being I have ever known,” went to work in the City immediately after graduating from the City of London School and worked all his life for Colman’s Mustard, “the horrible mustard people,” Amis calls them.

— Paul Fussell, The Anti-Egotist.


18 posted on 10/09/2006 11:36:06 AM PDT by dighton
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Martin Amis' Koba the Dread: Laughter and the Twenty Million
From Publishers Weekly Everyone knows what the Holocaust was, but, Amis points out, there is no name for and comparatively little public awareness of the killing that took place in the Soviet Union between 1917 and 1933, when 20 million died under a Bolshevik regime that ruled as if waging war against its own people. Why? The U.S.S.R. was effectively a gigantic prison system that was very good at keeping its grisly secrets.

19 posted on 10/09/2006 12:49:00 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: dighton; Little Bill; Senator Bedfellow; AnAmericanMother; All

Once again, the mighty dighton quote-machine produces a winner.


20 posted on 10/09/2006 12:58:00 PM PDT by aculeus (Buy Danish! (I don't mean pastry.))
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