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Muslim veils prompt bans across Europe
Washington Times ^ | October 23, 2006 | By Elizabeth Bryant

Posted on 10/23/2006 6:32:54 AM PDT by aculeus

PARIS -- When Nora Labrak arrived at a private employment agency in the summer near the French city of Lyon, the first question she was posed was not about her resume.

"I was asked to remove my head scarf at the lobby," Miss Labrak recalled in a telephone interview. When the 29-year-old refused, she was hustled to the door.

Long and short, sober black and brightly hued, the Muslim veil is drawing growing criticism in much of Europe. It has been chased from public schools in France and Belgium, and its strictest, face-concealing variation, the niqab, has been outlawed in a smattering of European towns.

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"If you're in Europe, you need to live according to European customs. Either you adapt or, if you want to wear Middle Eastern clothing, you leave," said Khadija Khali, head of a French Muslim women's group. A practicing Muslim who has gone to Mecca five times, Mrs. Khali does not wear a veil.

(Excerpt) Read more at insider.washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: eurabia; hijab; islam; rop; veil
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1 posted on 10/23/2006 6:32:54 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

I started to care, then I like forgot you know...


2 posted on 10/23/2006 6:35:44 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: aculeus

European sanity: two words I never thought I'd put together. There may be hope.


3 posted on 10/23/2006 6:35:45 AM PDT by GBA
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Why would a good muslim allow his wife to work? She should stay home in the kitchen, barefoot and preparing the children for suicide missions.


4 posted on 10/23/2006 6:36:20 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: aculeus
"Long and short, sober black and brightly hued, the Muslim veil is drawing growing criticism in much of Europe. It has been chased from public schools in France and Belgium, and its strictest, face-concealing variation, the niqab, has been outlawed in a smattering of European towns."

At a deeper level, these bans on muslim attire represent a strong desire to ban the islamic cult itself. Here's hoping the West's sleepy minds awaken to their deeper level of reason and wisdom and respond to what really needs to be done, instead of attacking just a few of the 'symptoms'.

5 posted on 10/23/2006 6:39:43 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: aculeus

Europeans takes care of business gradually, but it gets the job done. If the provocations continue, eventually they will rid themselves of this curse. It just takes time.


6 posted on 10/23/2006 6:43:58 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: TheCrusader
At a deeper level, these bans on muslim attire represent a strong desire to ban the islamic cult itself.

To an extent, you're right. Europeans really want to ban religion itself, it's just that they typically equate 'religion' with 'Christianity'. That's logical to a point, since Christianity has traditionally been the religion of Europe.

That said, Islam will become increasingly less tolerated, the more that the average European sees it in the same light as they do Christianity. While Christians tend to resist passively when oppressed, Muslims are quite agressive. This will eventually push the Europeans into more overt acts of repression.

7 posted on 10/23/2006 6:50:14 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: Paloma_55

good job Paloma.


8 posted on 10/23/2006 6:50:53 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: aculeus

VEIL DEBATE: MOST MUSLIM LEADERS IN ITALY SUPPORT PREMIER'S COMMENTS
AKI ^ | 10/18/06

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1721487/posts
Posted on 10/18/2006 8:27:49 AM CDT by Valin


Rome, 18 Oct. (AKI) - The majority of Muslim leaders in Italy voiced support Wednesday for prime minister Romano Prodi who said that Muslim immigrant women should not hide their faces behind a veil. The president of Italy's largest Muslim group, the Union of Islamic Communities in Italy (UCOII) said he agreed with the premier's words. "The niqab (a veil which reveals only the eyes) is against Italian law," said Mohammed Nur Dachan. "We perfectly agree with the premier," he added, warning however that no confusion should be made between the niqab and the hijab, which doesn't cover the face and should not be banned. On Tuesday, Prodi told Reuters: "You can't cover your face. If you have a veil, fine, but you must be seen." "It is not how you dress but if you are hidden or not," Prodi added. In the interview, the Italian premier was asked about comments by former British foreign minister Jack Straw, the leader of the House of Commons, who sparked a major debate in the UK and Europe after stating that full veils made relations "more difficult."

The deputy leader of another leading Muslim group in Italy, the Islamic Religious Community (COREIS), Yahya Pallavicini, also said he agreed with Prodi. "Prodi did well in clearly stating his views. The niqab has nothing to do with our socio-cultural context and does not correspond with the doctrine of Islam."

Under Italian law, the face cannot be covered in public for security reasons, and that applies to balaclavas and motorcycle helmets too. However, contrary to France, no law in Italy bans symbols of faith from public places.

Both UCOII and COREIS are in a government-appointed body on Muslim affairs, the Consulta Islamica.

Abd al-Hamid Shaari, the president of the Institute of Islamic culture in Milan's controversial viale Jenner mosque, at the center of a number of investigations into Islamic fundamentalism however disagreed with the premier and said "a woman should be allowed to wear whatever she wants if it poses no obstacle to her identification."

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9 posted on 10/23/2006 7:06:02 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: TheCrusader

Maybe France will survive, I'd figured Germany and Poland would be OK, pulling some others with them, but France? Perhaps they will use their famous snobery against this internal threat, rather than save it for Americans.


10 posted on 10/23/2006 7:07:07 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid. It's also WWIV.)
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To: aculeus

assimilate or pack your burka...finally!!


Doogle


11 posted on 10/23/2006 7:12:33 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF 69-73...."never store a threat you should have eliminated")
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To: Valin

Thanks for the link.


12 posted on 10/23/2006 7:15:58 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
"If you're in Europe, you need to live according to European customs.

I'm sorry, but I am NOT wearing a Speedo to the beach!!!

13 posted on 10/23/2006 7:37:22 AM PDT by Polybius
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Slowly but surely


14 posted on 10/23/2006 7:37:26 AM PDT by wastedyears ("By failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Polybius

Resistance is futile !


15 posted on 10/23/2006 7:41:39 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: aculeus

It's all "ok" until they start banning yarmulkes (sp?) and Nun hoods.

European anti-Semitism is alive and well, and the fact that they proudly refer to themselves as a "post-Christian" society makes the latter not unlikely.

Remember, what's done to one can easily be done to all. Socialism is on the march in Europe, and the last time I check, it is the enemy of all faiths not one.


16 posted on 10/23/2006 7:51:39 AM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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17 posted on 10/23/2006 7:57:28 AM PDT by Gritty (By suppressing masculine instincts, European women have paved the way for an Islamic hell-Fjordman)
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"Muslim veils prompt bans across Europe"


Until the ROP blows up something. Then the Euros will tuck tail and run.


18 posted on 10/23/2006 7:58:27 AM PDT by BLS (If you were blind you wouldn't be guilty, but you are guilty because you claim you can see)
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To: aculeus

Wait until muggers and bandits discover that those Muslim veils are less revealing than ski masks. It's only a matter of time.


19 posted on 10/23/2006 8:32:13 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell ( I predict a victory for Republicans that will make Dims remember 1994 as a very good year for them.)
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To: Polybius
I'm sorry, but I am NOT wearing a Speedo to the beach!!!

I guess you must not be overweight, then. Isn't that the European requirement for speedo-wearing?

20 posted on 10/23/2006 9:02:28 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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