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Duke Univ. President insults players' families
http://forums.talkleft.com/index.php?topic=465.0 ^ | Oct. 25, 2006

Posted on 10/25/2006 10:50:12 AM PDT by CondorFlight

3."Colin Finnerty’s parents contacted (Duke Univ. President) Brodhead to ask for permission to transfer credits from other colleges. . . Brodhead refused to meet with them despite several requests. Finally, the person in charge of the annual giving program told Brodhead that, unless he agreed to see the Finnerties, he would resign. Only then did Brodhead agree to meet them. In the meeting, Brodhead remained intransigent and he and Mrs. Finnerty got into terrible argument. The Finnerties walked out because Brodhead started insulting them."

(excerpt from a statement at Talk Left by an offical spokesman for Friends of Duke Univeristy)

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1 posted on 10/25/2006 10:50:13 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight
OK. I may be missing something, but why should the president of a university meet with a student or his family members about whether credits from another university will be accepted at Duke? Aren't there usually academic handbooks that lay out the criteria on the transfer of credits?
2 posted on 10/25/2006 10:54:37 AM PDT by HaveHadEnough
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To: CondorFlight

Duke was fast to put the players up for sacrafice. But now it looks as the case is a total farce, Duke still won't do anything for the players. What a disgrace. Who would want to send their children to a university that treats its students like this?


3 posted on 10/25/2006 10:56:09 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: HaveHadEnough

"but why should the president of a university meet with a student or his family members about whether credits from another university will be accepted at Duke?"

"Both Colin and Reade Seligmann are taking classes this semester at colleges near their homes. However, Duke will not let them transfer more than two courses so they are unable to keep up with their studies while suspended unless they get permission to transfer more. "

Duke would not allow the transfer, and so they had to ask for that permission.


4 posted on 10/25/2006 10:58:50 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight
"The Finnerties walked out because Brodhead started insulting them."

High-ranking academic dorks routinely insult students and their families all the time.

5 posted on 10/25/2006 11:00:46 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: CondorFlight

This is from a third rate democrat party blog whose despicable, evil readership is irate that the blatantly framed Duke lacrosse players are getting even a hint of justice.


6 posted on 10/25/2006 11:01:27 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: HaveHadEnough
OK. I may be missing something, but why should the president of a university meet with a student or his family members about whether credits from another university will be accepted at Duke?

IMHO, Duke sacrificed these kids to try to protect its own imagine. Duke should have put some political pressure on the DA office once it became apparent that the case had no merits, which was actually pretty early on. These kids lives have been torn apart, and Duke should do whatever they can to accommodate them.

7 posted on 10/25/2006 11:02:12 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: FormerACLUmember

The statement also makes note :

"There has not been a single note, card or other expression of kindness from anyone in the Duke administration to any of the three accused students."


8 posted on 10/25/2006 11:02:38 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight

Only thing they're guilty of is being white.


9 posted on 10/25/2006 11:03:29 AM PDT by TracyTucson (Teachers : Overpaid and Underworked........ Eliminate > ADA, EOE, NLRB, SS, DOE)
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To: Always Right

Hey - Duke had every right to expel those students! And they only suspended them which is not inappropriate simply for the illegal drinking party they held! Personally I'd be less inclined to send my kids there if they hadn't suspended the players simply for the boozing! quit your hand-wringing!


10 posted on 10/25/2006 11:04:50 AM PDT by flyingtabby
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Hey - Duke had every right to expel those students!

Not without some form of due process (at least an administrative hearing). Under which, the university would need to discuss the totality of the evidence - unless they want to be subject to a HUGE lawsuit later on.

On what basis could they be expelled? Being accused?

Now THAT's justice! /sarcasm

11 posted on 10/25/2006 11:11:56 AM PDT by MortMan (I was going to be indecisive, but I changed my mind.)
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To: CondorFlight

If this situation is not resolved to the students' satisfaction, I would recommend taking it up with the school's alumni association. Nothing will do more to light a fire under the @ss of a school president than a fear that wealthy alumni might put away their checkbooks during the school's next annual fund-raising effort.


12 posted on 10/25/2006 11:18:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: flyingtabby
"Hey - Duke had every right to expel those students!"

For what, being the victims of a dumb prosecutor who used them to get reelected? Surely you are not saying students should be expelled for drinking. If so them there would be very, very few college students, and most of the professors would be fired for drinking. Drinking is NOT a sin? Getting drunk is another matter.
13 posted on 10/25/2006 11:21:07 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: CondorFlight

As someone who has a relative on the Duke team, I can personally attest to the disgraceful and shabby treatment giving to the players by the feckless administratio. "Duke Lax Guts"..says it all..


14 posted on 10/25/2006 11:22:50 AM PDT by dcowboy
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To: flyingtabby
Hey - Duke had every right to expel those students! And they only suspended them which is not inappropriate simply for the illegal drinking party they held!

If every university expelled every student who went to a drinking party, there would not be many students left in college. For good or ill (ill, IMHO), drinking is ubiquitous on US university campuses.

As to why the parents were meeting with the University President, I would imagine these students petitioned to have excess units transferred, and their case got kicked up the ladder, for obvious reasons. No low-level flunky is going to intervene in this dog's breakfast of a case if they can get the boss to make the call. And up the ladder it goes.

15 posted on 10/25/2006 11:23:12 AM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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To: MortMan

Good point


16 posted on 10/25/2006 11:23:37 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: flyingtabby

illegal drinking party they held!.


Have they been accused of this? Thats news to me. BTW the party was at an off campus apartment. Duke U. has no jurisdiction there.

I dont know about you but a lot of people in college go to frat parties and they aren't sipping Kool Aid.


17 posted on 10/25/2006 11:32:53 AM PDT by pblax8
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To: Always Right

Hey, he doesn't have to meet with them, it's not like they're basketball players or someone important!!! (sarcasm off).


18 posted on 10/25/2006 11:58:07 AM PDT by perez24 (Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.)
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To: flyingtabby
flyingtabby
Since Aug 14, 2006


Hey - Duke had every right to expel those students!
Because ............ why?
BTW "flyingtabby" - have you seen any Viking kitties? Meow ...
19 posted on 10/25/2006 12:03:55 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: TracyTucson

If past history is of any significance heaven help them if they are Jewish. Duke was famous at one time for it's Jewish quota.


20 posted on 10/25/2006 12:20:13 PM PDT by A Strict Constructionist
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