Will Islam Dominate the Future? (a Critique of Steyn's book)

The American Thinker ^ | November 11th, 2006 | Steven M. Warshawsky

[Earthdweller]

I've come to the conclusion that if true Islamics were smart they would let Iraq succeed.

The world is watching to see if Islam is compatible with any other type of government other than an Islamic state.

If Iraq fails and the Islamics in Western societies fail to assimilate, the only recourse left will be to declare Islam, as taught by the Koran, to be a political party intent on overthrowing sovereign governments.

If this incompatibility is found to be true, there will be push to create laws to ban the doctrines of the Koran and those who follow it. With no infiltration of Muslims in non-Islamic countries, the plan for the soft take over of the West will then be cut off at it's knees and the only recourse left to Islam will be to let the Islamofascists spread the caliphate with an all out militarily front.

Terrorism will be defeated one way or another.

[PGalt]

Thanks for posting. Interesting.

We are witnessing the greatest anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collective in the history of civilization.

[rjp2005]

It's all in Daniel 8. The Ram and the He-Goat. The Ram conquers at first, but then the He-Goat takes back what was lost and smashes the Ram.

[blam]

I'm about half way through the book. It is a must read. The demographic numbers clearly show where the end will come. A possible solution is the immediate outlaw of the practice of Islam in the western countries and then begin deporting, jailing and execution of those who resist. There is no other solution.

I also think we should begin the transfer of all European historical, cultural and archaeological artifacts to the US for protection. This sounds harsh...but, just look at the birth/death numbers, it's all over for Europe.

[carola]

No, I don't see Muslims moving in on the Chinese. So, they're safe.

[outofstyle]

"Islam only poses a strategic threat if it is able to conquer & retain peoples with higher IQs than the peoples who now submit to its will."

I don't think the IQ of an enslaved population is really a factor. The Communists enslaved an empire for two generations.

[caveat emptor]

There are many lacunae in this review of Steyn's book, the main one of which leads Warshawsky into defaming Steyn by calling him a liar. He says that Steyn's analysis is correct, but the solution to the problem is all out war against Islam, and that Steyn duplicitously denies that the book is a call for such a war.

I'll leave it to Steyn to defend himself against the defamation if he so choses.

He may be right in doubting that we have the gumption to resist being undermined, if indeed that's what's going on, but I doubt it (that we don't have enough gumption).

Check out Florida Congresswoman Ginny Brown-Waite's show of some mighty fine gumption with her slapdown of a Florida CAIR honcho's attempts to intimidate her. Her remarks are linked to in this story from Tampa. Thanks to lgf for this story.

[Earthdweller]

"No, I don't see Muslims moving in on the Chinese. So, they're safe."

For now. If the West goes..they are of course, next.

[mdefranc]

"No one ideology, religious or political has ever dominated the worldwide population." - Man50D

Technological growth empowers those possessing will.

[expatpat]

I think that what will happen is that the Islamists will take over some parts of Europe, will introduce Sharia Law, eliminate feminism and sexual 'freedom', beat up on European women and recalcitrants, and generally go too far. THEN the rest of the world will see the light and respond accordingly (and fiercely).

[bella1]

Just finished the book. I am ordering 10 copies to give to away and would encourage others to do the same. The West needs to return to Christianity. Where there is a spiritual void all manner of evil comes in (just look around) starting with a false religion that seeks to enslave its followers. Jesus came to set the captives free... Mohammad came to kill, steal and destroy. If we think it cannot happen here, we are only fooling ourselves.

[bella1]

"THEN the rest of the world will see the light and respond accordingly (and fiercely)."

What "rest of the world" will be left...the West run by spineless and neutered males who only want to pacify the enemy in the name of peace? Good grief, we can't even name the enemy now (Islam, not "terror"). We had better wake up long before then.

[BubbaHeel]

I don't think the IQ of an enslaved population is really a factor. The Communists enslaved an empire for two generations.

I'm not sure what you mean.

The Russians, Chinese, and East Germans/Czechs/Hungarians have [or had] some of the highest IQs of the species.

Indeed, you could argue that the reason even more people didn't starve under communism was because it was being visited upon some of the most intelligent races on the face of the earth.

When you visit communism upon low IQ peoples, the immediate result is mass famine, starvation, and genocide. Remember this song?

We are the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let's start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
It's true we'll make a better day
Just you and me

That entire famine relief project was necessitated because the "Derg" regime imposed Marxist-Leninism upon a low-IQ people who were unable to withstand the ideology, hence quickly starved to death.

Frankly, it's quite a testament to the underlying intelligence of the Russian people that any of them were able to emerge from 70+ years of Marxist rule [although what few Russians survive to this day do now seem hell bent on cultural suicide].

[expatpat]

Look at how spineless the West was in the 30s, and what happened later -- desolation of all German cities and 2 Japanese cities nuked. Anglos-Saxons are slow to anger, but when they do get mad, they are ruthless. The right leaders will take over when the need is very clear. Read Et Dona Ferentes, by Rudyard Kipling.

[AEMILIUS PAULUS]

A real issue for "debate" being which will be the better master, the Mexican or the Muslim? After the plunder and rapine settles down the Muslim will give a purer life i.e. suppression of the sodomite etc. However, both govern by bribery and corruption. It is a hard choice.

[outofstyle]

Not articulate this morning. Sorry. I worked all night. You made my point better than I did. People of high IQs can be enslaved along with those of lower IQs. Communism is the example

[Earthdweller]

"A real issue for "debate" being which will be the better master, the Mexican or the Muslim? "

I'll bite...

What will an 'Anglomuslim' value in the continent of 'Eurabia' in the year 2050?

Conversely, what will an 'Anglomexican' value in the continent of 'Mexicanada' during the same time period?

[Earthdweller]

Hint..it's a trick question.

[G Larry]

Well, let's allow that both Mark & Steve are correct, because they are NOT mutually exclusive.

It would require between 3 and 10 books to fully address Mark's 10 points, to start outlining an energy policiy is easy:
Focus on nuclear power with common, primary designs and erase the 7 years of upfront paperwork.
Drill in ANWR and offshore.
It is ridiculous to preclude U.S. companied from drilling while foreign companies drill within 50 miles and steal our oil.
ANWR can be done cleanly and is NOT the green pastures portrayed in the ads. Further, the claims about the limits of the reserves there are fatuous, because the clowns have prohibited any measuring.
DO NOT waste money on low ROI alternatives like wind and solar, at least until they're proven more efficient on a smaller scale.
Through the envrio's a bone by raising CAFE standards.
Toyota & Honda have proven it's possible.

[Sue Perkick]

It will. Probably sooner than we would like. But it's coming.