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Outrage as Church backs calls for severely disabled babies to be killed at birth
Daily Mail ^ | 12 Nov 06 | Neil Sears

Posted on 11/12/2006 5:21:18 PM PST by xzins

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To: SevenofNine

Elizabeth might be a nice lady, a nice queen, and a great representative of the crown, but she raised an unworthy son.

Perhaps he rebelled against the goodness he was taught.

Perhaps he is representative of what he was taught.


81 posted on 11/12/2006 6:45:33 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Cicero

and we wonder how the democrats won?


82 posted on 11/12/2006 6:46:03 PM PST by caffe (please, no more consensus)
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To: Constantine XIII
WTF is a 'strong proportionate reason'?

How much money it's going to cost to keep you alive, apparently.
83 posted on 11/12/2006 6:47:30 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: SvdByFaith

It's amazing how the mention of Jesus changes the nature of a discussion such as this. What would Jesus do?

What would the Apostle John do? He was much loved by Jesus?

I don't think John would take the cash and run.


84 posted on 11/12/2006 6:48:42 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: vox_freedom

"Catholic" in name only = CINO


85 posted on 11/12/2006 6:53:33 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
"Catholic" in name only = CINO

Good one. Same moniker can go with all of the Democrat US Senators who call themselves "Catholic."

86 posted on 11/12/2006 6:55:49 PM PST by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: xzins
God is the only one who decides between life and death.

I agree that He should be. Sometimes, though, I wonder if we aren't "playing God" when we try to use extreme measures to keep someone here when He is trying to call them home.

I don't really know the answer, and I think the answer to each case might be different, and it's always difficult.

87 posted on 11/12/2006 6:57:09 PM PST by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: vox_freedom

YEP AND SOME PUBBIES TOO.


88 posted on 11/12/2006 6:57:39 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: uglybiker

Wow that is amazing. Thanks for the link.


89 posted on 11/12/2006 6:57:44 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: xzins

I just hoping that Queen Betty live long enough so charley won't succeed the throne that what Brit wants

Way Queen Betty going

She could live to be as long as her Mummy Queen Mum


90 posted on 11/12/2006 7:00:48 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: vox_freedom
It's ironic, but I was having a similar discussion with my mother this morning, and she said she wouldn't want to be on tubes or anything.

I told her that I do not consider hydration and nourishment as heroic efforts.

Needless to say, the discussion got heated from there, with my final comment being, fine. You want to pull the plug, you do it, but I won't be a party to it.

91 posted on 11/12/2006 7:02:59 PM PST by Maigrey (A vain thin-skinned condescending blueblood with no sense of his ridiculousness - M Steyn on JCarry)
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To: COEXERJ145

They are not talking about machines. They're talking about a Terri Schiavo redux.


92 posted on 11/12/2006 7:03:41 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (C'mon and dance with me!)
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To: SevenofNine

It was founded on Henry the VIII's ego and sense of entitlement, Henry wanted to do what Henry wanted. This latest story does not surprise me, or I would daresay, many others.


93 posted on 11/12/2006 7:11:38 PM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: Maigrey
I can understand and justify why someone would not want to be kept alive on a ventilator (aka extra-ordinary means), but to deprive hydration and food/sustenance is a painful way to die. What some would like is to have allowed injections to put people "to sleep," like they do dogs & pets, and people in the Netherlands.
Perhaps if your mother understood that there is a very real difference and that you only have her welfare and care in mind so that her life is not ended in an unjust and evil manner. Primarily it is about the salvation of her soul... I will pray for her.
94 posted on 11/12/2006 7:14:37 PM PST by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: vox_freedom

[Numerous "Catholic" hospitals have done them for years/decades...]

BS. I was wondering when the "Catholic bashing" would begin. Thanks for being the first, lol.


95 posted on 11/12/2006 7:14:42 PM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: xzins
It's amazing how the mention of Jesus changes the nature of a discussion such as this. What would Jesus do?
What would the Apostle John do? He was much loved by Jesus?
I don't think John would take the cash and run.

I think our modern churchmen are fashioning themselves after another apostle -- the one who did take the cash and run.

96 posted on 11/12/2006 7:16:49 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: LadyNavyVet; Saint Athanasius
If the state is paying to keep you alive, the state gets to decide if you are worthy of life. This is why we cannot let HillaryCare take hold here.

I wish the USCCB would understand that.

97 posted on 11/12/2006 7:17:27 PM PST by rhinohunter (1 RINO down...4 to go!!!)
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To: GOP_Thug_Mom

ping for later


98 posted on 11/12/2006 7:31:08 PM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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To: xzins
Some Christians have long argued that life should preserved at all costs...

There, fixed it!

On the other hand, many Christians recognize that there are things more important than life.

99 posted on 11/12/2006 7:35:52 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: xzins
One wonders where the age of humanism has gone? Just look at the Archbishop of Canterbury and you will get my drift.[http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/news_syndication/article_04121row.shtml]

Ecclesiastical Infanticide , who would have thought that the descendants of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table could stoop so low!

The Church of England is basically controlled by queers.Not much wonder that they promote infanticide, they have had none of their own, nor do they plan to.

100 posted on 11/12/2006 7:44:30 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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