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Outrage as Church backs calls for severely disabled babies to be killed at birth
Daily Mail ^ | 12 Nov 06 | Neil Sears

Posted on 11/12/2006 5:21:18 PM PST by xzins

The Church of England has broken with tradition dogma by calling for doctors to be allowed to let sick newborn babies die.

Christians have long argued that life should preserved at all costs - but a bishop representing the national church has now sparked controversy by arguing that there are occasions when it is compassionate to leave a severely disabled child to die.

And the Bishop of Southwark, Tom Butler, who is the vice chair of the Church of England's Mission and Public Affairs Council, has also argued that the high financial cost of keeping desperately ill babies alive should be a factor in life or death decisions.

The shock new policy from the church has caused outrage among the disabled.

A spokeswoman for the UK Disabled People's Council, which represents tens of thousands of members in 140 different organisations, said: "How can the Church of England say that Christian compassion includes killing of disabled babies either through the withdrawing or withholding of treatment or by active euthanasia?

"It is not for doctors or indeed anyone else to determine whether a baby’s life is worthwhile simply on the grounds of impairment or health condition."

The church's surprise call comes just a week after the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecology sparked fury by calling for a debate on the mercy killing of disabled infants.

But it has been made in a carefully thought out official Church of England paper written by Bishop Butler for a public inquiry into the ethical issues surrounding the care of long premature or desperately ill newborn babies.

The inquiry, by the Nuffield Council on Bioethics, began two years ago and its findings are due to be published in London - but the church's contribution to the debate has been leaked in advance.

The Nuffield Council, an independent body which issues ethical guidelines for doctors, began the inquiry to take account of scientific advances which mean increasingly disabled and premature babies can technically be kept alive.

In practice, doing so can be controversial - with the three months premature Charlotte Wyatt a case in point.

The Portsmouth baby weighed just 1lb at birth, and had severe brain and lung damage. Doctors wanted to be allowed to leave her to die, but her parents successfully campaigned through the courts against them.

Now that the child is three, however, and could be cared for at home, her parents have separated and are considered unsuitable to look after. In future cases doctors may work to guidelines proposed by the Nuffield inquiry.

In the Church of England's contribution to the inquiry, Bishop Butler wrote: "It may in some circumstances be right to choose to withold or withdraw treatment, knowing it will possibly, probably, or even certainly result in death."

The church stressed that it was not saying some lives were not worth living, but said there were "strong proportionate reasons" for "overriding the presupposition that life should be maintained".

The bishop's submission continued: "There may be occasions where, for a Christian, compassion will override the 'rule' that life should inevitably be preserved.

"Disproportionate treatment for the sake of prolonging life is an example of this.

The church said it would support the potentially fatal withdrawal of treatment only if all alternatives had been considered, "so that the possibly lethal act would only be performed with manifest reluctance."

Yet the Revd Butler's submission makes clear that there are a wide range of acceptable reasons to withdraw care from a child - with the cost of the care among the considerations.

"Great caution should be exercised in brining questions of cost into the equation when considering what treatment might be provided," he wrote.

"The principle of justice inevitably means that the potential cost of treatment itself, the longer term costs of health care and education and opportunity cost to the NHS in terms of saving other lives have to be considered."

The church also urges all the parties involved in care for critically ill babies should be realistic in their expectations, demands, and claims.

The submission says: "The principle of humility asks that members of the medical profession restrain themselves from claiming greater powers to heal than they can deliver.

"It asks that parents restrain themselves from demanding the impossible.":

UK Disabled Peoples Council spokeswoman Simone Aspis said the group's members were appalled that the Church was joining doctors in calling for disabled babies to be left to die.

"It appears that the whole debate on whether disabled babies are worth keeping alive is being dominated by professionals and religious people without any consultation with disabled people," she said.

Out of babies born at just 22 weeks of pregnancy or less, 98 per cent currently die. In Holland babies born before 25 weeks are not given medial treatment.


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KEYWORDS: abortion; anglican; church; ecusa; infanticide; prolife; protestants
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To: SevenofNine

Elizabeth might be a nice lady, a nice queen, and a great representative of the crown, but she raised an unworthy son.

Perhaps he rebelled against the goodness he was taught.

Perhaps he is representative of what he was taught.


81 posted on 11/12/2006 6:45:33 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Cicero

and we wonder how the democrats won?


82 posted on 11/12/2006 6:46:03 PM PST by caffe (please, no more consensus)
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To: Constantine XIII
WTF is a 'strong proportionate reason'?

How much money it's going to cost to keep you alive, apparently.
83 posted on 11/12/2006 6:47:30 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: SvdByFaith

It's amazing how the mention of Jesus changes the nature of a discussion such as this. What would Jesus do?

What would the Apostle John do? He was much loved by Jesus?

I don't think John would take the cash and run.


84 posted on 11/12/2006 6:48:42 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: vox_freedom

"Catholic" in name only = CINO


85 posted on 11/12/2006 6:53:33 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: cpforlife.org
"Catholic" in name only = CINO

Good one. Same moniker can go with all of the Democrat US Senators who call themselves "Catholic."

86 posted on 11/12/2006 6:55:49 PM PST by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: xzins
God is the only one who decides between life and death.

I agree that He should be. Sometimes, though, I wonder if we aren't "playing God" when we try to use extreme measures to keep someone here when He is trying to call them home.

I don't really know the answer, and I think the answer to each case might be different, and it's always difficult.

87 posted on 11/12/2006 6:57:09 PM PST by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: vox_freedom

YEP AND SOME PUBBIES TOO.


88 posted on 11/12/2006 6:57:39 PM PST by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: uglybiker

Wow that is amazing. Thanks for the link.


89 posted on 11/12/2006 6:57:44 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: xzins

I just hoping that Queen Betty live long enough so charley won't succeed the throne that what Brit wants

Way Queen Betty going

She could live to be as long as her Mummy Queen Mum


90 posted on 11/12/2006 7:00:48 PM PST by SevenofNine ("Step aside Jefe"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: vox_freedom
It's ironic, but I was having a similar discussion with my mother this morning, and she said she wouldn't want to be on tubes or anything.

I told her that I do not consider hydration and nourishment as heroic efforts.

Needless to say, the discussion got heated from there, with my final comment being, fine. You want to pull the plug, you do it, but I won't be a party to it.

91 posted on 11/12/2006 7:02:59 PM PST by Maigrey (A vain thin-skinned condescending blueblood with no sense of his ridiculousness - M Steyn on JCarry)
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To: COEXERJ145

They are not talking about machines. They're talking about a Terri Schiavo redux.


92 posted on 11/12/2006 7:03:41 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (C'mon and dance with me!)
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To: SevenofNine

It was founded on Henry the VIII's ego and sense of entitlement, Henry wanted to do what Henry wanted. This latest story does not surprise me, or I would daresay, many others.


93 posted on 11/12/2006 7:11:38 PM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: Maigrey
I can understand and justify why someone would not want to be kept alive on a ventilator (aka extra-ordinary means), but to deprive hydration and food/sustenance is a painful way to die. What some would like is to have allowed injections to put people "to sleep," like they do dogs & pets, and people in the Netherlands.
Perhaps if your mother understood that there is a very real difference and that you only have her welfare and care in mind so that her life is not ended in an unjust and evil manner. Primarily it is about the salvation of her soul... I will pray for her.
94 posted on 11/12/2006 7:14:37 PM PST by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: vox_freedom

[Numerous "Catholic" hospitals have done them for years/decades...]

BS. I was wondering when the "Catholic bashing" would begin. Thanks for being the first, lol.


95 posted on 11/12/2006 7:14:42 PM PST by khnyny (God Bless the Republic for which it stands)
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To: xzins
It's amazing how the mention of Jesus changes the nature of a discussion such as this. What would Jesus do?
What would the Apostle John do? He was much loved by Jesus?
I don't think John would take the cash and run.

I think our modern churchmen are fashioning themselves after another apostle -- the one who did take the cash and run.

96 posted on 11/12/2006 7:16:49 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: LadyNavyVet; Saint Athanasius
If the state is paying to keep you alive, the state gets to decide if you are worthy of life. This is why we cannot let HillaryCare take hold here.

I wish the USCCB would understand that.

97 posted on 11/12/2006 7:17:27 PM PST by rhinohunter (1 RINO down...4 to go!!!)
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To: GOP_Thug_Mom

ping for later


98 posted on 11/12/2006 7:31:08 PM PST by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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To: xzins
Some Christians have long argued that life should preserved at all costs...

There, fixed it!

On the other hand, many Christians recognize that there are things more important than life.

99 posted on 11/12/2006 7:35:52 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: xzins
One wonders where the age of humanism has gone? Just look at the Archbishop of Canterbury and you will get my drift.[http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/news_syndication/article_04121row.shtml]

Ecclesiastical Infanticide , who would have thought that the descendants of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table could stoop so low!

The Church of England is basically controlled by queers.Not much wonder that they promote infanticide, they have had none of their own, nor do they plan to.

100 posted on 11/12/2006 7:44:30 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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