"A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER" (Not the Tom Clancy novel)

Free Republic ^ | 11/12/2006 | gonzo

[BIGLOOK]

Very interesting map indeed. Something I've tried to explain to the geographically (and strategically) challenged.

Pinging this to myself, Dave for when I get back.....day after tomorrow.

[gonzo]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1741034/posts

Thanks, M. Espinola! there's a lot going on about Iran tonight.

Being computer-challenged, I've got to open another browser to post some new links! That's the only way I know how to do it. Back-in-a-bit...........FRegards

[M. Espinola]

That was the only map depicting more or less where our forces are located in terms of surrounding Iran.

One of the carrier groups is the USS Iwo Jima in the Persian Gulf at this time. (below)

Two U.S. Navy V-22 Osprey aircraft operate from the flight deck of the USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) during developmental testing on July 1st, 2004.

Other US Navy ships are the Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG):

USS Boxer (LHD 4) - Persian Gulf

USS Dubuque (LPD 8) - Persian Gulf

USS Comstock (LSD 45) - Persian Gulf

Amphibious Warfare Ships:

USS Saipan (LHA 2) - Gulf of Oman

Other Carriers:

USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) - Arabian Sea

USS Dwight D. Eisenhower - CVW-7 Continues OEF Missions Over Afghanistan

(July 23rd, 2006) – The amphibious assault ship USS Boxer (LHD 4) shown off the coast of Southern California. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Noel Danseco

[ßuddaßudd]

bump for later...

[gonzo]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1743203/posts

China getting ready for NK refugees?

...............FRegards

[gonzo]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1745593/posts?page=1

Russia has 62 operational TU-95 Bear Bombers.

Count the mosques in your neighbourhoods, then stay well armed and safe..................FRegards

[M. Espinola]

Here is additional data:

Strategic forces
Type	Name	Launchers	Year deployed	Warheads x yield (kiloton)	Total warheads
ICBMs
SS-18SS-18	Satan	138	1979	10 x 550/750 (MIRV)	1,380
SS-19	Stiletto	134	1980	6 x 550/750 (MIRV)	804
SS-24 M1	Scalpel	36	1987	10 x 550 (MIRV)	360
SS-25	Sickle	342	1985	1 x 550	342
SS-27	n.a.	30	1997	1 x 550	30
Total		680			2,916
SLBMs
SS-N-18 M1	Stingray	96	1978	3 x 200 (MIRV)	288
SS-N-20	Sturgeon	40	1983	10 x 100 (MIRV)	400
SS-N-23	Skiff	96	1986	4 x 100 (MIRV)	384
Total		232			1,072
Bomber/weapons
Tu-95 MS6	Bear H6	34	1984	6 AS-15A ALCMs or bombs	204
Tu-95 MS6	Bear H6	34	1984	6 AS-15A ALCMs or bombs	204
Tu-160	Blackjack	15	1987	12 AS-15B ALCMs,AS-16 SRAMs, or bombs	180
Total		79			864
Grand total		991			4,850
ALCM--air-launched cruise missile; AS--air-to-surface missile; ICBM--intercontinental ballistic missile, range greater than 5,500 kilometers; MIRV--multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles; SLBM--submarine-launched ballistic missile; SRAM--short-range attack missile July/August 2003 pp. 70-72 (vol. 59, no. 04) © 2003 Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists source Russian milatary aircraft photos & info (in Danish):

[stevie_d_64]

Good stuff!

What amazes me is that we are now getting down to lebels where the M.A.D. (Mutual Assured Destruction) understanding is almost nullified, and that a nuclear exchange could be survivable for certain aspects of each others communities...(i.e. bunkered down politicians, and other VIP's)

I believe the only reason is that we just don't have anything that's a pushbutton issue to conflict over these days...

The Russian "warm and fuzzies" they are having with Iran may change that when people start realizing the finality of that course...Right??? We know what thats all about...

[gonzo]

Good catch, M. Espinola! Nearly identical, and confirms what I remember hearing and reading. Brit Hume mentioned it on FOX News one night, and it was a 'filler' in the St. Pete Times, but I couldn't find it later.

It's amazing that after the Soviets built so many jet and turbofan bombers, they've only got 15 Blackjacks left operational!

Stay well armed and safe. Something's coming soon..................FRegards

[M. Espinola]

With the continuous daily revelations concerning the radiation assassination of Alexander Litvinenko, very possibly pointing directly to the front door step of KGB Putin should warn Americans and the West to wake up quickly and prepare for the unthinkable, since a cornered bear is as extremely dangerous as a preparing Red China.

Some interconnected additional data located is below:

Russian war preparations Moscow has outfitted hundreds of fighter-bombers with additional fuel tanks and in-flight refueling capability, augmenting Russia's intercontinental strike capability.  Russia has been constructing large numbers of military transport aircraft for foreign customers who do not exist.   Russia has been building and accumulating dry docks even though, at the moment, no foreign customers for them exist.   Russia has recently fielded a new battle tank; a new state-of-the-art fighter; super-quiet submarines which can engage sea, land and air targets simultaneously; a new attack helicopter and sniper rifle.   Russia has developed a revolutionary new rifle-fired infantry weapon, the so-called vacuum grenade, which can give a single Russian soldier the firepower of a 155mm howitzer. Russia has begun joint production of this weapon with the Chinese.    Russia now emphasizes the production of mobile ICBMs like the Topol-M, which are designed to evade satellite detection, permitting the Russians to cheat on arms control agreements.   Russia continues to develop biological and chemical weapons, sometimes with the use of U.S. funds. According to recent defectors, Russia is now working on a super-plague weapon.   Russian diplomacy is clearly attempting to build an anti-American alliance which includes countries like China, North Korea, Cuba, Iraq, Libya, South Africa, Syria, Venezuela, Vietnam, Iran and India. Russian Spetsnaz commandos continue to train with suitcase nukes against U.S. targets.  Russia is hoarding strategic metals which are vital for keeping up war production through the first months of a nuclear world war.  Russia is importing more food than needed for domestic consumption. At the same time, Russia has constructed huge underground nuclear-proof food storage facilities.  Russia has developed an impressive engineering rescue capability, organized into special military formations positioned outside large cities, for rescuing citizens trapped beneath rubble in the event of a nuclear attack.     Recent Russian movies and pop songs depict Americans as stupid animals who deserve to die.  In keeping with this theme, NATO is depicted as an aggressive alliance, sometimes likened to Hitler's Third Reich. Russia is building huge underground cities, like the one at Yamantau Mountain in the Urals.  These cities are built more than a thousand feet into the earth and are able to withstand direct nuclear attack. Russia has been modernizing nuclear bunkers located beneath Moscow. Russia has erected a system of national missile defense far beyond that allowed by the 1972 ABM Treaty.  Deploying approximately 10,000 dual-purpose mobile SAM/ABMs, Russia has used a loophole in the treaty to provide a powerful missile shield.  Using a common-sense approach to ABM defense, Russia's interceptor missiles employ special nuclear warheads that can destroy incoming warheads without having to score a direct head-on hit.    Russia is also ahead of the United States in directed energy weapons that could be used to blind or destroy U.S. early warning satellites.   Many of Russia's mafia organizations operate in collaboration with, or under the supervision of, military intelligence and the state security services. Organized crime is used to penetrate Western banks, technology companies, law enforcement and government. Routes used for smuggling drugs and other contraband are reserved in wartime for bringing biological, chemical and nuclear weapons into the U.S. Chinese war preparations Civil defense drills began in major Chinese cities around July 2000. Chinese military commanders have been told that nuclear war with America could begin at any time.   China has been developing and deploying new road-mobile long range missiles like the DF-31 and DF-41. China is modernizing its navy, purchasing advanced Russian warships and missiles capable of sinking U.S. carriers.   China has been rapidly building a large store of advanced nuclear warheads.   China has positioned bases to block the main western entry point into the Pacific, and has acquired indirect control of the Panama Canal through front companies.   China has formed military ties with Cuba and Venezuela. China has also penetrated Sudan, and is spreading missile and nuclear technology to rogue states in Africa and the Middle East. China has massed troops, aircraft, ships and missiles opposite Taiwan.   China has engaged in war exercises during which U.S. forces in the Pacific were targeted by Chinese forces.

Polonium found at the office of Putin opponent

[Pepper777]

Your post is very chilling, indeed. The US does NOT have any type of civil defense for it's people. NONE!!

However, the powerful in our nation do have underground cities to go to in the event of a nuclear attack. Even a nation like North Korea, I've heard could take out our grid systems by using a nuke blast at high altitudes.

I have to give it to the Russians for at least providing a civil defense system for their people. We will be like sitting ducks. ;( ;( The cold war was never over, imho. It just went underground and is not showing it's ugly face again.

Thanks for posting all the info, even though it's scary. The reference to the movies which showed Americans as deserving to die, was really reason to pause and wonder what the heck is going on. Its as tho there is a push for whole world to hate America and Israel. Strange times and getting stranger.

[M. Espinola]

You are correct, civil defense against a nuclear attack is meaningless in America. We can't even handle coordinating hurricane related civil defense and our enemies know it.

Today this sign is only considered a 'Cold War' relic.

Putin Warns of Continued Arms Race

The Russian-U.S. arms race is not over, stated President Vladimir Putin, in his seventh state of the nation address.

Russia will soon commission two nuclear submarines with the first ICBMs developed since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Land-based strategic forces will soon get their first unit of mobile Topol-M missiles. Putin states that the new missiles and warheads will be able to change course during flight to evade U.S. defense systems (Wash Times 5/11/06).

Russian -Ministry of Extraordinary Situations

Civil Defense Supplies Found in Brooklyn Bridge

A stockpile of water drums, bandages, and crackers dating from 1957, found during a structural inspection of the Brooklyn Bridge, will probably be sent to a museum for “ephemera.” Officials commented on the 1950s description of the effects of nuclear weapons that were “almost pornographic in their lurid details.” Apparently, unlike with today's global warming scare, “there was a fascination with the apocalyptic.”

By the early 1970s, 230,000 buildings in metropolitan New York had been designated as fallout shelters. By 1979, the city was paying contractors $38 a ton to cart away supplies from the shelters (NY Times 3/26/06).

 

"Evidence that the Chinese are indeed preparing for war includes the continued construction of underground bunkers and shelters throughout the city of Beijing. At the same time, nothing is being done to prepare for the major earthquake expected soon; new high rises will topple at the slightest shock (correspondence from Eric Alley)."

CIVIL DEFENSE PERSPECTIVES

China activates bomb shelters - Intelligence sources suspect reopening to public is part of strategic deception (June 28th, 2005)

NATIONAL UNPREPAREDNESS MONTH

[gonzo]

Wow! Your #s 150 and 152 sound like a great plot for a spy novel. Maybe Nyquist could write it? Maybe he already did.

Both Russia and China have one large customer in common - the USA, and they have both felt the bite of the same enemy as we have - Islam.

Also, I doubt either of them are particularly happy about sharing a border with a Nuclear-Tipped-Missle-Armed North Korea, since they both voted to blockade N Korea at the UN. China also cut-off oil to NK.

And this Polonium-210 business! What was Litvinenko doing with it, and how did he get it? It makes a lousy poison, and if someone wanted him dead, it would be a lot more efficient to just pop a cap in his ass.

Looks like it came from Russia, according to the radioactive planes in the British fleet, and I've no doubt that Litvinenko has some old connections there. I'd give Putin a pass on this one - who's he gonna get to carry it? It's REALLY radioactive!

Well, count your mosques, then stay well armed and safe...................FRegards

[stevie_d_64]

Yer just full of all sorts of good news ain't ya...

[gonzo]

"...Yer just full of all sorts of good news ain't ya..."

Just tryin' ta keep the conversation lively...............FRegards

[stevie_d_64]

And when you do that, I end up buying a case of ammo everytime! hehehe

I'm sending you the bill! ;-)

[Salem]

'Bump' on gonzo's thread here. Lines up with conversations "off site" with other Middle East observers.

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[M. Espinola]

[zeaal]

Interesting.