"A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER" (Not the Tom Clancy novel)

Free Republic ^ | 11/12/2006 | gonzo

[gonzo]

The following are copys of e-mails that I've sent to my employees up North (I live in Florida now), and Jim Robinson...

"Re: What's goin' on...

To Jim Robinson | 10/19/2006 4:43:47 AM EDT sent

Howdy Jim. Barry/gonzo here. What follows is an e-mail that I sent to my troops up North at my Company in South Bend, Indiana. They're a bunch of rabid VRWC buffs, and they wanted my take on world events, after I had warned them to 'keep their powder dry'.

A few days later, I sent this to Jim:

BTW, Jim, those TU-142's are actually TU-95's, an upgraded version of the 142. A little stronger, but still a 'Bear'. My bad. I flagged you on a thread about them.

............Barry/gonzo I didn't want to post it as a thread on FR because, well, I think I'm close to being right, and 'loose lips and all...'."
Here goes, with some other observations afterwards:

To my employees and JimRob:
Baryshery@aol.com wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1719198/posts

This link is part of a good look at the Enemies of the USA. There are active links on the thread that are also excellent, especially # 20.
READ THIS BEFORE YOU CLICK THE LINK, PLEASE:

I don't often write messages like this - in fact, not for 28 years as I remember, so here goes:

North Korea claims to have recently tested a nuclear bomb. This is highly unlikely, given all the intel that has been obtained, but they did explode something, on the order of about 800,000 pounds of TNT (tri-nitro-toluene), which is possible. Whether or not the little maniac running that Country has or can make a working A-Bomb in the future is irrelevant. North Korea is now under a virtual blockade of any shipments of any nuclear materials out of Korea, courtesy of the UN (the UN is a joke, but the votes are in, and Korean goods can and will be siezed on the high seas as necessary).
What is important is that they have already shipped a number of their possibly operational Big-Dong missles to Iran! Those missles in Iran can reach Israel, all of Europe, and much of Russia and Asia.

Now, I'm the only one here(at BAMAR) that can remember the Korean War as current events. China entered the Korean War on the side of the North (unofficially) when it appeared that the UN-Allied powers were about to defeat North Korea. China is now stuck with NK as their very-own bastard stepchild. I love the irony of it, because China doesn't want a nuke-enabled NK either, so they voted for blockade! So, for all intensive purposes, NK is no further problem.

Now, Iran: Iran is now making fissile material (stuff-that-goes-big-bang) for nuclear weapons, and will have enough material for their first A-Bomb before April, 2007, and possibly by December, 2006.
The guy in charge in Iran, who I call 'Amanutjob', is insane, and has often said, amongst other things, that he intends to destroy Israel, the United States, and anyone else that doesn't convert to Islam, and I believe he is sincere. He's crazy, but he's not kidding!
He also welcomes Armageddon, even and especially a nuclear one, and I believe him!
I think that he must be stopped, and that he will be stopped!

I hoped that our President Bush would be strong enough to give the order to destroy Irans' nuclear capability with conventional arms (and we have them in quantity), even if the USA had to go it alone. Logistically, Israel doesn't have the means, and is too far away to do it without using nukes, so it's up to the USA.
Middle-last week it was reported that Russia was activating quite a number of their old TU-142 Bear intercontinental bombers. These are relics of the Cold War, and wouldn't stand a chance going up against any defenses of the US, Britain, or even France (if France didn't surrender first). They can, however, carry and drop a huge bomb load over distance, and they were reliable. Therefore, I think Russia's in the coming fight on the side of 'the Good Guys'.

So, I said all that, to say this:
I think that sometime after the elections on November 7, (vote, dammit!) and before April, 2007, Irans' nuclear capabilities are going to be seriously attrited (we're gonna bomb the very-living-shit outa their facilities) using conventional weapons. We're also going to secure Irans' Southern oil facilities to protect them (Google - Maps of Iran), and also protect the Straits of Hormuz (see Maps...) by invading Iran from Iraq. (Gee, who would have thought that we'd already be in Iraq?)
When this starts (shit-hitting-the-fan), every so-called Mosque in the USA and in other Countries becomes a potential den of murderous zealots. Christians and Jews don't store weapons and explosives in their Churches and Synagogues, but Moslems do it all the time!!

It may be prudent to take steps to be able to protect ourselves before anything bad happens.
I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Neville Chamberlain (Google) was wrong, and about 90,000,000 souls subsequently perished.
I've read the Bible, both Testaments.
I've read the Koran (Quran), and it sucks!
Islam is not a religion - it is a cult of death.
I'm reading up on The Crusades now.(I think we're in one again, and this time, it's for keeps!)

I'll be happy to answer any questions. This is the longest letter I've ever written, and I can't even type!

Stay well, y'all, and hope to see you soon......................Barry

PS: And I thought the only nutbars I'd have to think about were these wierd Scientologists around
here..............B
End of e-mail.

To JimRob:
Additional info (and I don't want to dig too deep):

The USAF is presently working out of an Air Base in far Eastern Russia (Base name unknown), WITH the Russians. There was a ground collision accident there with a plane subsequently burning up. A USAF Tanker (KC-135 or KC-10) was involved. The story made page 99, and then went down the memory hole. I think we're arming the Russians with Smart Bombs, and possibly helping with mid-air re-fueling.

My personal opinion is that a three-pronged attack plan is being hatched:

#1)-The USA and Great Britain (and others) are in Iraq, and will commence Air and Ground ops against Iran as noted above. There may well be an amphibious incursion in the East (Google Maps of Iran).All conventional weaponry.

#2)-Israel will move North into Lebanon and finish-off Hizbolla (it made NO sense for them to stop last time), and will probably continue into Syria. The USA and Brits will probably lend Air cover as needed. All conventional weaponry.

#3)-Russia will probably be tasked with bombing the North Korean nuclear-bomb facilities, and maybe not the nuclear power plants - anybodys guess, but L'il Kim gets dead.
The Russians may help in Iran in the second wave of bombings as necessary, because those TU-142's are just too damned noisy. All conventional weaponry.

#4)-China will cooperate with all sides, but will stay out of the fight. Instead, I think they'll provide safe air passage and any intel they can. Theirs has become a peculiar form of Communism, and is actually transitioning into the biggest Capitalist Country in the World. They're not going to attack their largest market - the USA - and so, will become our new best friend.

#5)-After the initial destruction is completed, we'll probably call a time-out on the field, and ask the muzzies if they want to quit their evil ways, or would they like us to get serious with Nuclear Weapons?

#6)-It depends on their answer to #5!

Jim, when 9/11 happened, I knew in my gut that the muzzies (wogs) were going to NEED an object lesson in order to change their minds, just as the Germans and Japanese needed Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki to change theirs.
It is no accident that the USA is presently in Iraq, effectively splitting Syria and Iran, and positioned to take and hold the important parts of Iran.
I think that we know where all the Iraqi WMD's are buried in Syria, and that they're Chem and Bio weapons, that we'll burn later.

In my conversations with my troops (employees) up North, I've just cautioned them to be prepared for the possibility of some internal civil unrest here in the USA, started by Islamaniacs that are already here, in their mosques. It'll take some time for local Police to regain control.

Well, that's it so far, Jim! After the elections and before April, 2007! As I pick up more data, I'll add to this.

[SuziQ]

I suspect that the Kittyhawk had known they were there for a while, probably already knew the serial numbers of the boat. Chinese subs aren't exactly stealthy.

[LachlanMinnesota]

There will also be a period when the Malaysian area will erupt in support of the Mid-eastern Islamofacists. Australia and New Zealand and Japan, will be the main counterpoise in the Western Pacific for the near term, but Japan has to spool up and fast.

South Korea will remain in place to defend itself against Korea.

When this happens, the south American anti-American crowd will begin serious agitation against US interests.

Western Africa will also be another safe haven for the terrorists, as they are now, and we will put few responses into stopping that because we will be so busy elsewhere.

IMHO we need to begin a draft as a complement to the existing forces, and we need to bring up to speed our ability to supply ourselves and our allies on multiple fronts.

However, these plans will not take place because there will be no support for this in Congress. Without support there, no action will be taken and a great deal will happen in the world while we watch.

We can stop it now by a strong policy of intervention. It will cost the fewest lives to do it now, before they have nukes, rather than wait for the very public displays of horror that the common masses will see as the proof that we are under attack in the West.

[woodbutcher]

My understanding of the recent news is that the Russions will not take part in any embargo, cessation of weapons sales, etc., with Iran.

Why then would expect them to suddenly send aircraft to bomb them?

No one is going to do anything but talk, talk, talk.

Europe 1930-1938 all over.

[Thunder90]

the entire Former Soviet Union and China are expected to have massive military exercises early next year.

[photodawg]

Bush made a very bad mistake in trying to sell the Iraq war as a wonderful Christian thing to do; make Iraq a democracy. The man on the street does not give a flip whether the Iraqis have democracy.

Bush should have sold it for what it is: Europe 1930-39 .

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Interesting scenario, except I think Russia will overtly side with islam and China will take no side.

As far as Bush and this war, I believe Don't start something you can't finish. In the Paranoia following 9-11 and the urge to resolve the crisis. The Iraq policy was formulated too hastily. Bush and neocons knew the American public would support limited response to 9-11 threats and hence portrayed Iraq and Hussein as bogeyman, thinking they could do an updated desert storm. They greatly misunderestimated (smile) the strength of islamic jihad, and were now caught in a battle that became the major front in the war on islam, with Iran pulling the strings. America is not at the consciousness level politically to ruthlessly fight the third world war and would not stand for escalation of this preemptive strike that produced no WMD's. We need to be on a war footing and only the conservative one third of our people are ready to make the sacrifices necessary to ruthlessly destroy this enemy, i.e. to nuke iran, and deport muslims in US. consequently Bush had to settle for the possible, which was this democratic mission to save islam from itself. The libs will attack any war we fight and have the media to spin things out of control. This is why I think we will make a deal with Iran to give them their nuke program, Iraq and Palestine state, in return for allowing Israel to exist, and US withdrawal. It will buy us time but little else, and nuclear war will be outcome to about 70% probability regardless. We might, further along in the scenario, be willing to relocate Israel to prevent nuke war. and hope muslims will be satisfied with entire middle east and Europe.

[Thunder90]

Didn't Russia also cut off all supplies to North Korea, including severing oil contracts???

[Thunder90]

Russia has but one carrier. Carriers are needed for our type of warfare (Theatre based), but is not needed for Russia's or China's type of warfare (Strategic based). Also, Russia has hypersonic torpedoes that can take out our carriers from tens of miles away by a sub.

[Thunder90]

Russia and China will stay to themselves and attack America later, after Islam and the US fight it out.

[Thunder90]

The SCO exercises were designed to subdue a renegade country. That exercise may point to North Korea. China and Russia may attack that country jointly if it doesn't comply and stop building nukes.

[dgallo51]

Yeah…Our 'Stragic Partnership' has MORPHED…I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!

You might want to surf around this site…

http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/default.asp

[dgallo51]

A very interesting site to surf

http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/default.asp

[gonzo]

Your # 39: Yup! It was the 'Bears' (not Da Bears) that didn't make sense. 'Why is Russia re-outfitting Air-Arms of Bears?' Then I found the article about the USAF airplane accident in Russia!

Then I looked at the map. Russia also borders North Korea along with China. Then it was time to play connect-the-dots.

Stay well armed and safe.............FRegards

[woodbutcher]

I agree.

Your scenario is actually very similar to mine except you go into greater detail, which I believe to be correct.

The only difference is the part Russia will play and I suspect you are closer to the truth on that than I am.

Putin is a very dangerous man.

We have all said things that make our face turn red when we think of them. "I looked into his eyes....." surely makes Bush's face red.

[gonzo]

"...We can stop it now by a strong policy of intervention. It will cost the fewest lives to do it now, before they have nukes, rather than wait for the very public displays of horror that the common masses will see as the proof that we are under attack in the West..."

I hope so! Stay well and safe............FRegards

[unspun]

Re: George Noory reference: wild, arcane speculations.

[unspun]

Shucks, this link should work.

[unspun]

Shucks, this link should work.

[jamaly]

BTTT

[tcrlaf]

This was the SECOND US Aircraft Carrier "threatened" in recent days. The other was un the Gulf, photo'd by an Iranian drone...

[gonzo]

"...Didn't Russia also cut off all supplies to North Korea, including severing oil contracts???..."

It was China, Thunder90. I forgot to put it in the original post, but added it in #22. There's more data, so I'll add it as I can, as I find my links again. Thanks for your input!

Stay well armed and safe............FRegards