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Ten Commandments stunner: Ten Commandments stunner: Feds lying at Supreme Court
worldnetdaily.com ^ | November 14, 2006 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/13/2006 10:57:02 PM PST by B4Ranch

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To: Sandy
Most of the quotes in your "demonstration" to me dealt with the East Wall Frieze,...

Even that statement isn't true. You are referring to either post #63 which has only one reference to the East Wall Frieze or post #70 which only concerns the east pediment as you correctly pointed out. So far the only thing you have been right about.

81 posted on 11/14/2006 11:16:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Sandy
That paragraph is about DuBord's conversation with the lady at the information desk.

The article refers to her as a tour guide. There is no mention of an information desk or anyone at or from an information desk in the article. But you just keep making things up if it floats your boat.

82 posted on 11/14/2006 11:19:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: B4Ranch

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83 posted on 11/14/2006 11:19:32 PM PST by MichaelManureMoore (Hillary & Nancy...It Takes Two Moms To Raise A Gay Party!)
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To: Sandy
But DuBord's tour guide said those – too – were the Ten Amendments.

Sandy: And that's the tour guide I mentioned who didn't know about the Commandment's on the courtroom door. That's what that sentence is about.

No, that is one in the same person you keep calling "the lady at the information desk." The tour guide he showed the picture to.

84 posted on 11/14/2006 11:23:32 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Sandy
That's because it's a poorly written article.

Is that your reason for all your confused posts?

85 posted on 11/14/2006 11:25:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Sandy
I thought you were making that claim when you said, "Moses has been reduced to a non-entit[y]."

I did. When someone profers information as a representative of the government that makes the claim that the tablets in Moses' hands are the 'ten amendments' that, IMO, is reducing him to a non-entity. You are free to disagree with my opinion.

I don't know what website the author is talking about there.

He wasn't specific was he? You are correct that the SC website accurately describes the tablets in Moses' hands, on the South Wall Frieze, as the Ten Commandments. That correction should be directed at the author not me.

86 posted on 11/14/2006 11:55:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: B4Ranch; All
Here are two interesting photo essays from Human Events Online.

Exclusive Photo Essay: God in the Temples of Government: Part I

Exclusive Photo Essay: God in the Temples of Government: Part II

87 posted on 11/15/2006 12:04:59 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: TigersEye
There is no mention of an information desk or anyone at or from an information desk in the article. But you just keep making things up if it floats your boat.

I'm not making things up. Evidently, you don't comprehend my replies any more then you comprehend the original article. To repeat what I already said in reply #80: That's because it's a poorly written article. If you follow the link in the article and read Dubord's piece, it makes more sense.

And just in case that sentence is still incomprehensible, here's the link from the article to Dubord's piece: http://www.lacconline.org/supremecourt.asp.

88 posted on 11/15/2006 12:23:53 AM PST by Sandy
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To: Sandy; B4Ranch; All
It wasn't in the article posted here or in the WND article yet now, after numerous verbose and provably incorrect postings by you, you finally share your source from which you have been quoting. You have the gall to start out by calling me confused when you are not only incredibly confused you have intentionally created more confusion.

I do thank you for the link though. The article there lays out a much more damning indictment of the SC guides and information specialists and does so very clearly as opposed to the "poorly written" article leading this thread. I encourage everyone who reads this far to check it out.

10 Commandments Changed to 10 Amendments at U.S. Supreme Court

89 posted on 11/15/2006 12:53:07 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: TigersEye
Even that statement isn't true. You are referring to either post #63 which has only one reference to the East Wall Frieze

I'm referring to post #63, where paragraphs 1-5 are all about the East Wall Frieze.

Here:
This quote says where the frieze is located:

There, he said, his tour guide was describing the marble frieze directly above the justices' bench.
And this quote is regarding tour guide's description of of the frieze:
"Between the images of the people depicting the Majesty of the Law and Power of Government, there is a tablet with ten Roman numerals, the first five down the left side and the last five down the right. This tablet represents the first ten amendments of the Bill of Rights," she said.
And the following quotes all deal with Dubord's investigation into what the tour guide said about the frieze:
One official Supreme Court document, he found, cited a letter from sculptor Adolph A. Weinman that said the "pylon" carved with Roman numerals I to X "symbolizes the first ten amendments to the Constitution." But the letter was anomalous; it didn't have a number of certifying marks that were typical of others.

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Further research produced information that in 1987 the building was designated a National Historic Landmark, and came under control of the U.S. Department of the Interior, and under the new management the handbook was rewritten in 1988. The Ten Commandments reference was left out of that edition, and nothing replaced it.

The next reference found said only the frieze "symbolizes early written laws" and then in 1999, the reference first appeared to that depiction being the "Ten Amendments to the Bill of Rights."

Now let's recap in case you lost track:

I said: "Most of the quotes in your 'demonstration' to me dealt with the East Wall Frieze."

You said: "Even that statement isn't true. You are referring to either post #63 which has only one reference to the East Wall Frieze"

I say: "I'm referring to post #63, where paragraphs 1-5 are all about the East Wall Frieze." (Those five paragraphs are copied/pasted in this reply.)

90 posted on 11/15/2006 12:54:25 AM PST by Sandy
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To: Sandy

So what? That has nothing to do with the substance of the article. Nothing.


91 posted on 11/15/2006 1:02:42 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: TigersEye
No, that is one in the same person you keep calling "the lady at the information desk." The tour guide he showed the picture to.

No it's not. It's two different people. One woman is a tour guide. The other woman is someone Dubord talked to at the information booth after the tour. The tour guide told him to go to the information booth, and so he did.

If you'd bother to read the link I gave you--which is Dubord's actual report--you might understand what I'm saying.

92 posted on 11/15/2006 1:03:35 AM PST by Sandy
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To: TigersEye
I do thank you for the link though

No problem. Good luck with that reading comprehension problem though. G'nite.

93 posted on 11/15/2006 1:05:17 AM PST by Sandy
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To: Sandy

If you had bothered to give that link in the first place you wouldn't have created all this confusion as to what you are talking about. But you were still wrong on most of your points. My rebuttals still stand.


94 posted on 11/15/2006 1:07:56 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Sandy

Good luck with that bi-polar thing.


95 posted on 11/15/2006 1:08:41 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: TigersEye
It wasn't in the article posted here or in the WND article yet now

Actually it is in the WND article. I'm shocked you missed it. ;-)

96 posted on 11/15/2006 1:10:19 AM PST by Sandy
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To: Sandy

No it isn't. If it was you would have cut and pasted it by now. You lie.


97 posted on 11/15/2006 1:12:12 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Sandy
That paragraph is about DuBord's conversation with the lady at the information desk.

There is no mention of that in the article as posted at the head of this thread. The closest thing is this...

The current information office at the Supreme Court declined to talk on the record with WND when asked about Ten Commandments representations on the building, referring questioners to the website.

There is no mention there of a person, a conversation with a person or the gender of a person. You are caught in another outright lie.

98 posted on 11/15/2006 1:16:45 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: TigersEye
You: [The link] wasn't in the article posted here or in the WND article
Me: Actually it is in the WND article.
You: No it isn't. If it was you would have cut and pasted it by now. You lie.

This is a joke, right? Please tell me you're kidding. You can't possibly be this dense.

I gave you the link in my reply #88. In reply #89, you thanked me for that link and also said, "It wasn't in the article posted here or in the WND article." But the link *is* in the WND article. That's where I got it from. Repeat: The link to DuBord's article is in the WND article; that's where I got the link; that's the link I gave you in reply 88; and that's the link you thanked me for in reply 89.

But still for some godforsaken reason, after I said, "Actually it [the link] is in the WND article," you come back and say, "No it isn't. If it was you would have cut and pasted it by now. You lie."

Hello? Is this thing on?

99 posted on 11/15/2006 2:16:31 AM PST by Sandy
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To: TigersEye
There is no mention of that in the article as posted at the head of this thread. ... There is no mention there of a person, a conversation with a person or the gender of a person. You are caught in another outright lie.

This is the last time I'll say it. Follow the link in the article (which I posted to you in reply 88).

100 posted on 11/15/2006 2:33:48 AM PST by Sandy
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