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Dem Leadership Update: Ugly And Uglier
The Hotline ^ | 15 November 2006 | Staff

Posted on 11/15/2006 2:48:35 PM PST by shrinkermd

With 24 hours to go before House leadership elections, the race is boiling down to two main storylines.

The first involves a 26-year-old story that began to emerge once again yesterday: Rep. John Murtha's past. After being a little too involved in Abscam for his own good (some accounts have former Speaker Tip O'Neill personally bailing Murtha out of trouble) and what Washington Post's Marcus calls a "one-man earmarking factory," Murtha has a number of good gov't types on his case, including Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Gov't. The Hill even reports that, because of his penchant for doling out earmarks, some defense industry lobbyists hope he loses and retains his chairmanship, this time in the majority.

The second continues from 11/12, when Speaker-to-be Nancy Pelosi injected herself in the race. While her inital letter backing Murtha was initially seen as simple loyalty, but now, she's making phone calls and button-holing members for their support. Baltimore Sun's Hay Brown reports the speaker-in-waiting is playing hardball: She summoned Rep.-elect Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) to her office to ask why Gillibrand was supporting current Dem whip Steny Hoyer (D-MD), and, completely coincidentally, asked for Gillibrand's committee preferences.

Pelosi's efforts have gotten attention throughout the caucus as, according to Hay Brown, Hoyer "fought to hang on to his support" 11/14. Uncommitted Rep.-elect Tim Walz (D-MN): "To be honest, I was waiting for the Speaker. When the Speaker speaks, you listen. I take that into heavy consideration" (Hearn, The Hill, 11/15)...

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To: shrinkermd

Welcome to the majority Mr. Walz.

"Even though I think it's total crap, I'll vote for it and pass it because that's what Nancy wants,"

John Murtha


21 posted on 11/15/2006 3:03:40 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: Txsleuth

See No. 20 that I just posted. Looks like Murtha got gamed...


22 posted on 11/15/2006 3:04:30 PM PST by eureka! (May the voters see the light next time.....)
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To: eureka!

Thanks...

And if the House members are happy with a Speaker of the House that pulls those kind of games before she even takes office...then they are a more pitiful lot that I previously thought.


23 posted on 11/15/2006 3:08:17 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth

Agreed. Power trumps all. Look what 12 years in the majority did to so many GOP members. *sigh*


24 posted on 11/15/2006 3:12:08 PM PST by eureka! (May the voters see the light next time.....)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

pubs do not have the guts for that or most anything else except stealing our money.

Where is Sen. Jefferson? I want my cut of the frozen clams


25 posted on 11/15/2006 3:13:43 PM PST by Tannerone (FEED ALL TERRORIST LIVE AND OTHERWISE TO STARVED HOGS)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

unfortunately.... the won't

Republican's are too ..... to play hardball


26 posted on 11/15/2006 3:14:46 PM PST by fhlh (My reply to Demonrats in Power : "you using the whole fist there, Doc?")
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To: Ben Mugged

That is Helen Thomas, circa 1918.


27 posted on 11/15/2006 3:19:41 PM PST by Disambiguator (;^))
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To: shrinkermd

Swiftees, sorry that Kerry self imploded, but the good news is that Murtha might be #2 in the House.

Time to crank up your troops for fun and enjoyment for the next two years!


28 posted on 11/15/2006 3:24:23 PM PST by aShepard
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To: ExTexasRedhead

***I doubt that Pelosi, Reid, Murtha, Kerry, or any of the terrorist sympathizers can calm the masses should we suffer another attack due to their inept cowardly policies. I bet not.***

Of course you are correct, but do you really expect the truth from the media? If another attack comes the spin doctors will be out in full force and trying to blame it on George Bush. They will probably get away with it.


29 posted on 11/15/2006 3:24:35 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: shrinkermd

Rush endorsed Abscam Murtha today.
That should push him over the top! LOL


30 posted on 11/15/2006 3:24:47 PM PST by ConservativeGreek
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To: Txsleuth

Update. Murtha on Hardball tonite has said he's "got the votes". See link at Drudge if you like. In any event, we'll find out tomorrow....


31 posted on 11/15/2006 3:37:03 PM PST by eureka! (May the voters see the light next time.....)
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To: shrinkermd
In related news, Hoyer was quoted today as saying everything EXCEPT investment accounts was on the table for fixing Social Security -- everything specifically including raising the age of retirement and higher taxes.

I am waiting for the thunderous headlines tomorrow from the MSM: "Top Dem Calls for SS Benefit Cuts, Tax Hikes."

32 posted on 11/15/2006 3:40:41 PM PST by sphinx
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To: mariabush

Maria, once they redefine the meaning of "corruption", it'll be jest fine.


33 posted on 11/15/2006 3:49:52 PM PST by Alia
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To: small voice in the wilderness

l-o-l!


34 posted on 11/15/2006 3:51:01 PM PST by Alia
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To: eureka!

I just watched the repeat of the Harball with Murtha.

He looks like he has had botox in his jowls....


I heard on Fox News that there was a type of "debate" that went on between he and Hoyer with the reps...and that Murtha was horrible...that is where he called Nancy Pelosi's ethics legislation 'A BUNCH OF CRAP"...LOL

Well, like you said, we will find out tomorrow.


35 posted on 11/15/2006 4:12:15 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: sphinx

When they take the payroll taxes off everyone making less than $30,000 a yaer and hiking up to 70% of everyone else's, it will be a called a tax cut.


36 posted on 11/15/2006 4:19:19 PM PST by Safetgiver (Stinko De mayo, Stinko to the Commies.)
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To: Txsleuth

He has mannerisms and speech suggesting he is quite familiar with alcohol or has been familiar in the past.


37 posted on 11/15/2006 4:26:08 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

LOL...I do believe you are correct!!

Give him a red nose...and he would look like WC Fields...or Teddy Kennedy...LOL


38 posted on 11/15/2006 5:04:26 PM PST by Txsleuth
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To: Alia

So true! LOL


39 posted on 11/15/2006 5:11:01 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
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To: shrinkermd; MNJohnnie
Uncommitted Rep.-elect Tim Walz (D-MN): "To be honest, I was waiting for the Speaker. When the Speaker speaks, you listen. I take that into heavy consideration" (Hearn, The Hill, 11/15)...

Thank you Tim Walz, you are now officially a "Nancy Boy Democrat", and we've got our 30 second attack ad quote lined up for 2008 already ... ANything Pelosi says, you follow. Gotcha.

40 posted on 11/15/2006 7:37:06 PM PST by WOSG (The 4-fold path to save America - Think right, act right, speak right, vote right!)
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