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The Real Meaning of This Election (Vanity)
November 17, 2006 | Miss Marple

Posted on 11/17/2006 11:13:00 AM PST by Miss Marple

The disappointing results of the recent election have led to a lot of discussion about WHY this happened. In the search for the grand unifying theory of why we lost, there seems to be an inordinate amount of bitterness and recrimination.

The problem is that we all are looking at this through the perspective of our own beliefs. Conservatives look at the loss of Chaffee and Northrup and think "If only we had had a real conservative in those seats." Moderates point to the loss of Hayworth and Santorum and caution about moving too far to the right. Some blacks look at the losses of Ford, Blackwell, and Steele and think it's all about race. People like me opine that the Congress would have won if they had stuck with the President. Others think that we would have won if we had completely disassociated ourselves from President Bush.

The fact is, this election wasn't about ideology at all. We were outflanked by a very good strategy crafted by Rahm Emmanuel, who has proven to be a formidable foe.

First of all, the democrats made really amazing use of the scandals, many of which they orchestrated to be revealed at the most damaging time. Foley, Delay, Weldon...those stories were not coincidental. Judicious use of timing and legal tactics kept us from effectively defending those seats.

In addition, instead of waiting until this year, Emmanuel began recruiting people almost two years ago. He used a very interesting strategy...looking at what would appeal to voters in each individual district and state, rather than looking at a national message. The oft-seen "Rove, you magnificent bastard" graphics here on FR were more prescient than intended. In the movie "Patton", the phrase was "Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book."

That is exactly what happened. Emmanuel "read Rove's book" and took a page from it.

Candidates were chosen to fit certain constituencies. Webb, for example, IS a bona fide war hero and he went up against George Allen, who didn't serve in the military. That drew enough votes from those military people in Hampton Roads and other military enclaves to put Webb over the top. The macaca flap was just icing on the cake.

J.D. Hayworth is also very conservative, and had made strict immigration enforcement one of his issues. What did they do? They ran someone who was also strict on immigration, but supported the President's plan somewhat. So, the democrat got the Hispanic vote plus a bit of the anti-immigration vote.

In Indiana, Hostettler and Sodrel were attacked by the democrats over Daylight Savings Time and the sale of the Indiana Toll Road, two issues which are very hot buttons here but have NOTHING to do with the federal government.

This is how the democrats won. They looked at each area and chose the issues which would get them enough crossover voters to get them over the top. While their national office holders and the liberal pundits were saying that this election was a referendum on Iraq, their local candidates were running on almost anything BUT that, at least in the swing areas.

I have to conclude that we just lost because the democrats did a better job. When your desire is purely to seize power (which is, after all, what a great many of them are about) then you aren't hampered by ideology. That's why they could run Jim Webb and other veterans while speaking in Washington about defunding the military. They simply discovered what would sell, and used it to get people elected in the democrat column.

Now, we can all post for the next ten years about which way would have been the best philosophy (moderate or conservative) but the fact is that this election really had nothing to do with either. It had to do with who was willing to do the most to regain or keep power, and the democrats won.

IF we had had a cohesive national message, if we had not been divided on issues since Katrina,if we had not had some really embarassing scandals, we might have been able to overcome this. However, with pundits assailing the President, Congressional Republicans split over immigration and earmarks, and the President only hiring Tony Snow late in the game to put out an improved PR effort, we simply couldn't overcome it.

Rove is an excellent political strategist, but no matter how good someone is, there one day arrives someone better, and right now this person is Rahm Emmanuel.

If I had a say in what goes on I would suggest the following:

1. No dissension within the party should be aired on national media. Anyone who does this would be stripped of committee assignments and campaign cash. Disagreements belong on the floor of the Congress and in votes and in letters to constituents. We do not owe Chris Matthews air time to help divide the party.

2. President Bush is the president for two more years. The media has done a number on him and does NOT need our help in attacking the president. Anyone who calls him too liberal, too conservative, too wishy-washy, failed, traitor, etc. is doing nothing but further depressing his approval ratings. It won't be easy for the 2008 candidate, whoever he may be, to run following a "despised" president, and all you have to think about is Hubert Humphrey following Lyndon Johnson. Keep your opinions to yourself for the sake of whoever runs in 2008.

3. Congressmen and Senators should start paying attention to LOCAL issues that could be used against them. Staffers should be monitoring the local papers and media. After seeing how Sodrel and Hostettler were sandbagged by this stuff, I am not so sure we can win much in 2008, especially since Governor Daniels will be at the head of the state ticket.

4. Finally, realize that a huge number of voters don't vote based on philosophy of government. They vote on who will protect their jobs, who seems like a nice guy, who has done stuff they can identify with, who has good hair, etc. They don't give a flying hoot about "limited government" or "social justice." If you talk to them about inside baseball stuff like whether Pence or Boehner should be minority leader, their eyes glaze over and they start edging away from you, figuring you are a whack-job. However, their votes count just as much as Rush Limbaugh's, mine, or yours. We had better understand them rather than patronizing them or ignoring them.

We have to lose our complacency that our message is self-evident, and that the public trusts only Republicans with national security. It is obvious that the public is easily misled and confused.

At any rate, this is my take on what happened.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: americanslose; bushhaterswin; emmanuel; iraqbackstabbers; lbackstabbers; losertarians; rahm; rahmemmanuel; sanfranciscovalues
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To: paul51

Spot on!


121 posted on 11/17/2006 8:02:38 PM PST by lucysmom
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To: Miss Marple
"...the general public sees cooperation as a good thing, and that they are pleased to see Clinton and Dad Bush working together."

The general public may indeed be pleased. And if GHWB likes to hang out with known psychopathic rapists, that's certainly his privilege. Afterall, he is a grown man.

122 posted on 11/17/2006 8:05:17 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Just mythoughts

Good information! We need to understand that the ladnscape has changed!


123 posted on 11/17/2006 8:09:04 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: listenhillary

Late, but here is your ping!


124 posted on 11/17/2006 8:10:56 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: Miss Marple
"... If you had expected the nomination of Harriet Miers, and it had been adequately explained to you... "

Perhaps. But it wasn't adequately explained, not before or after the fact. And you're right -- I do want consistency between campaign promises and subsequent policies. I also want unity within the party, but not at the expense of underwriting liberalism, which is what we've been getting from the GOP in Congress and the White House. Read what the GOP says in its party platform about controlling spending and then just look at how much of our money they have flushed down the toilet. Just those three bills alone (farm, prescription, education) come to roughly one TRILLION wasted dollars that people like us had to go out and earn. If that isn't GOP arrogance, then I don't know what is.

125 posted on 11/17/2006 8:15:21 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Miss Marple

I think the Republicans ran right, governed mid-left by spending like drunken sailors and ignoring such things as illegal immigration, tax reform, and winning (NOT maintaining) the war in Iraq.

Truth is....the Dems will totally misread the results and start governing hard-Left. This will destroy them in 2008.


126 posted on 11/17/2006 8:16:19 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Miss Marple

" where was the one for 2006?"



I believe that this is the 2006 list from newt :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1740408/posts?page=58#58


127 posted on 11/17/2006 9:39:53 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Mo1
" To bring them back, the pubbies need to control the spending and slow down the pork

The only spending the Libertarians will agree to at this time is the military and the fence.."


Well said.

We should start now for 2008 to find district by district "friendly" candidates like Rahm Emmanuel did to us.

Assuming that all politics are local, we should get to work.
128 posted on 11/17/2006 9:48:12 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Miss Marple; Congressman Billybob

Here Soros and friends were caught starting the campaign for the 2006 wins...IMO



BILLIONAIRES SECRETLY MET IN ASPEN TO DEFEAT BUSH

10/19/04 from The New Yorker Magazine

In the days following the Democratic Convention in Boston this past August, several billionaire Democratic activists secretly met at the famed Aspen Institute in Colorado...their clandestine meeting ... the New Yorker magazine reports in its most recent edition.

Details of the meeting remain sketchy... The Aspen meeting was supposed to have been a top secret within Democratic party circles.

When The New Yorker inquired about the meeting, an assistant to one of the attendees was surprised by the call.

"No one was supposed to know about this,” the aide told the magazine. "We don’t want people thinking it’s a cabal or some sort of Masonic plot!”

Apparently the leader of the secret cabal is billionaire Peter B. Lewis; the chairman of the Cleveland, Ohio-based insurance company, the Progressive Corporation.

Like another attendee, George Soros, the wealthy financier, Lewis has poured millions into Democratic 527 groups, including Americans Coming Together and Moveon.org.

Another billionaire who attended was John Sperling, founder of the online University of Phoenix.

Also present were Herb and Marion Sandler from California. The couple founded the Golden West Financial Corporation, a California Bank reportedly worth $17 billion.

Still, the wealthiest and most notable of those attending the meeting was George Soros, the 74-year-old Hungarian immigrant who desperately wants to defeat George Bush and has even compared him to the likes of Adolph Hitler.

Apparently, all was not roses at the billionaire confab, according to The New Yorker.

"The billionaires spent much of the time moaning the superior powers of the GOP,” the magazine said, and the group even needed some cheerleading from Harold Ickes, a former top aide to Bill Clinton who is involved in the 527 efforts.

The magazine said Soros had planned to keep a low profile in the closing months of the election, but suddenly changed course this summer when he decided to "jettison the strategy in favor of waging his own media-grabbing political campaign.”

Soros sees Bush as the face man for a secret cabal. "Bush was just chosen as a figurehead, an acceptable face for sinister group,” Soros told The New Yorker, adding, "Cheney is the Capo.”

Clearly Soros knows a thing or two about secret cabals and Capos.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/10/19/131508.shtml


129 posted on 11/17/2006 9:55:37 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Miss Marple

Great analysis.


130 posted on 11/17/2006 10:03:11 PM PST by gogeo (Irony is not one of Islam's core competencies (thx Pharmboy))
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To: Miss Marple; kcvl

Here are two examples of many excellent finds by kcvl ...IMHO :



George Soros' ties to Libertarian "anti-war" groups like Lewrockwell.com are a concern for cause. Soros is merging the ideals of hardline Socialism and Libertarianism which is suppose to be the exact opposite of hardline Socialism into a Libertarian-Socialist.

It is through this merging Soros and his associates are enabled to infiltrate other political circles besides Democratic, Liberal and Leftist circles within America and elsewhere around the world.

Soros' influence over at Lewrockwell.com with Soros' anti-War on Drug status is a major concern. Soros is tied to "alternative anti-drug" groups that are not honest on the affects on illegal drugs onto the American public. These drugs include mostly maijuana, but can include cocaine to what these "alternative" groups advocate.

Soros' Open Society Institute funds these "alternative" groups and encourages for the "drug alternative" to the current anti-drug groups like DARE.

More evidence can be looked right here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735129/posts?page=140#140


plus Anthony Gregory(Lew Rockwell.com)is a writer and ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1735129/posts?page=154#154


131 posted on 11/17/2006 10:03:51 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Mo1; onyx

" Yes, it is okay to make criticisms of the Republican Party and the President.

But it's only useful in a constructive way and not to harp none stop ..."

I agree.

We should make this a learning experience. This is the opportunity now to listen to the voters outside of the beltway.

Most of the seats that we lost should be available in 2008 if we can find good local mayors, governors ( like Jeb Bush ), and other leaders to run for congress or the senate.

I really never understand why states like North Dakota have two rats in the Senate. States and congressional districts that have been voting for Bush should be ours.


132 posted on 11/17/2006 10:14:04 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: PhiKapMom

BUMP


133 posted on 11/17/2006 10:20:44 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: GOPsterinMA
May I be the first to post a result from Election Eve, 2008:

"John Kerry (D-Massholechusetts) wins another six year term to the U.S. Senate, defeating Libertarian candidate Mike Cloud 73% to 27%."

Here's one from Election Eve, 2006:

"Fat Teddy Kennedy (D-Massholechusetts) wins another six year term to the US Senate, defeating Republican candidate Ken Chase 69% to 31%."

That's a slight improvement from 2000, when it was Kennedy 73%, Jack E. Robinson (R) 13%, Carla Howell (L) 12%."

134 posted on 11/17/2006 10:33:41 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Miss Marple

Bookmark


135 posted on 11/17/2006 10:34:09 PM PST by Pajamajan (Pray for president Bush-pray for our military-pray for our congress-pray for our nation)
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To: Miss Marple

Good post. I think you nailed quite a few points!

The Democrats worked hard to beat us and we stood around in disbelief as they succeeded.

Now Republicans are blaming the border bots, conservatives or anyone else they can think of.

I think that there has been a huge disconnect with the American public with the WOT and the Iraq war,on one hand, and on the other, letting people, possible terrorists, swarm, unimpeded across our borders, caused many people to turn off, not show up to vote, or to vote Democrat in protest.

I think that many people are upset about illegal immigration and logically, can't see why we've been prosceuting one war but don't seem to give two hoots about this problem.


136 posted on 11/17/2006 11:02:54 PM PST by TheLion
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To: TitansAFC

Good analysis, brief and to the point. Best yet. The negative effect of the media on the perception of the war coupled with the fact that as of late it also has not been going well, is the only other thing I would add.


137 posted on 11/17/2006 11:10:16 PM PST by TAdams8591 (It's the Justices, stupid!)
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To: Pelham
"I'm inclined to think that the habit of telling their unhappy base to take a hike just finally paid off for the GOP."

Really good point. Santorum literally said, 'Just let them go.'

138 posted on 11/17/2006 11:15:36 PM PST by TAdams8591 (It's the Justices, stupid!)
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To: Miss Marple

And if the General Public didn't see Clinton and Papa Bush working together, not only would they take no offense, they wouldn't give it a thought.


139 posted on 11/17/2006 11:21:24 PM PST by TAdams8591 (It's the Justices, stupid!)
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To: Miss Marple

Thanks for the ping.


140 posted on 11/17/2006 11:29:21 PM PST by nopardons
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