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Srebrenica atrocities: evidence of US complicity (BARF Alert)
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2006/691/35888 ^

Posted on 11/22/2006 11:38:54 AM PST by kronos77

For years, the role of the United States in conniving with Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic in the destruction of the Bosnian Muslim town of Srebrenica has been shrouded in mystery.

When heavily armed Bosnian Serb nationalists seized the town from Dutch United Nations “peace-keepers” in July 1995, along with expelling tens of thousands of Muslims, they led away 8000 men and boys and slaughtered them in captivity, the largest single massacre in Europe since World War II.

Now the “smoking gun” is being uncovered. Richard Holbrooke, who at the time was assistant secretary of state in the Clinton administration, recently revealed in an interview with French magazine Paris-Match that his initial instructions from US national security adviser Anthony Lake were to sacrifice the three remaining Muslim “enclaves” in East Bosnia — Srebrenica, Zepa and Gorazde — to the Serb nationalists, led by indicted war criminals General Ratko Mladic and Radovan Karadzic.

Holbrooke claims he rejected the instructions, but in the past he has emphasised his rejection only of pressure to abandon Gorazde, leaving the question of the other two unclear — till now.

The same issue of Paris-Match also had an interview with the chief prosecutor of The Hague Yugoslav war crimes tribunal, Carla del Ponte, who claims that Western officials held a meeting with Milosevic, Karadzic and Mladic in 1995, to discuss the plans to seize Srebrenica. She said there were minutes of the meeting and that she knew the names of the officials, but was unable to use this as evidence because they refused to confirm their attendance.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: antichristian; balkans; bosnia; clinton; ihoppy; muslim; pancakeboy; serbia; srebrenica; toothlessdhimmi
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1 posted on 11/22/2006 11:38:55 AM PST by kronos77
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To: joan; Smartass; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ...

Ping! And BARF

Holbrook is one of the architects of human tragedy in Balkans.


2 posted on 11/22/2006 11:39:55 AM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77

Where's the Congressional investigation?


3 posted on 11/22/2006 11:47:08 AM PST by rhombus
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To: kronos77
DAMN Clinton to hell.

His Administration CREATED 9-11, they just darn near handed the planes over to the terrorists that flew them into buildings. Yea, he did everything he could to try and MAKE it happen. Either the man is delusional, a COMPLETE fool or both. I think we all know what I think.

Then Man's got Blood on his hands. Theirs and ours.
4 posted on 11/22/2006 11:47:28 AM PST by Danae (Anail nathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do chel denmha)
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To: Danae

Interesting, US troops are allways victimes of US made weapons. talibans are using "Stingers", Iranians are flying F-14s...


5 posted on 11/22/2006 12:00:37 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: kronos77
"they led away 8000 men and boys and slaughtered them in captivity"

Someone needs to tell this lying bozo that the statement was proved false several years ago.

6 posted on 11/22/2006 12:16:01 PM PST by moonman (`)
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To: kronos77

Do you think Clinton knew that the Serbs planned massacres?


7 posted on 11/22/2006 12:18:30 PM PST by secretagent ((Trying on the neoconservative hat now))
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To: rhombus

The Republicans in Congress probably had access to this knowledge, but refused to act because they were 'playing nice' with the Dem'crats, as a conciliatory move toward the Dem'crats. Should the Dem'crats ever get in a postion of power, went the reasoning, Dem'crats would then reciprocate by not looking too closely at what the Republicans may have done on their watch.

Dem'crats play along in part. Now that they are in charge, this particular series of incidents will be swept entirely under the rug, clearing the field for fresh indictments of Republican malfeasance to be put under close examination.


8 posted on 11/22/2006 12:32:15 PM PST by alloysteel (Facts do not cease to exist, just because they are ignored. - Aldous Huxley)
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To: secretagent
Do you think Clinton knew that the Serbs planned massacres?

He could have know much better than Serbs themselves. Why? Because this "massacre" was a hoax to be used as a pretext for massive NATO bombing campaign and following massacre of Serbian Krajina.

9 posted on 11/22/2006 12:33:01 PM PST by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: secretagent

Even worst:

muslims were previously massacrated some 3,000 Serb Christians during 2 years of "UN protected demilitarised zone" in Srebrenica, Clinton knew that and by protecting muslim murderers and allowing them to attack neighmoring Serb willages, he knew that Serbs will eventualy erupt in rage.
He just waited, and waited and when Serbs attacked he knew that Serbs will take revenge on Muslims that commited attrocities over their families.
Than he ordered UN to do nothing to either dissarm Muslims, either to stop Serbs.

there you go, instant CNN-type warcrime.

1. Allow Muslims to armthemselves
2. Allow Muslims to murder Christian Serbs
3. Protect Muslimes by UN of military defeat
4. Allow Muslimes to attack and kill even more Serbs using UN "Secured zove" as safehaven for their attacks
5. Leave Muslims to be slaughtered by Serbs when they ged mad enough.
6. Bring CNN to film "Poor innocent Muslimes" when Serbs kill them.


10 posted on 11/22/2006 12:33:31 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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It is called "Constructing a crysiss" or "Orchestrating a civil war".
Ben done before by Abwehr and Gestapo, perfected by KGB and Clintonians...
Rwanda, Bosnia, Kosovo... evry single place in the world.


11 posted on 11/22/2006 12:36:03 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: A. Pole; kronos77

You have both read more on this than I have.

Both of you see Clinton as a war criminal for bombing the Serbs, but disagree as to whether or not the Serbs massacred 8,000 muslims from Srebrenica.

Right?


12 posted on 11/22/2006 12:51:52 PM PST by secretagent ((Trying on the neoconservative hat now))
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To: kronos77
Clinton knew that and by protecting muslim murderers....

clinton ALWAYS protected muslim murderers!! Including the ones that killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11! And now he is using his foundation to "integrate" hordes of muslim immigrants into Western societies.

And the evil slimy rat Holbrooke is a real live Gollum!!!!

13 posted on 11/22/2006 12:57:12 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: secretagent
It was really a planned evacuation, as the war was wrapping up in those last few months and the Muslim enclave wouldn't be sustainable. Keeping it wouldn't allow a better separation of the warring parties for Dayton which created a Muslim-Croat federation and the RS (Serb part of Bosnia). There had been talk years earlier about trading/swapping Srebrenica for Serb held territories in other parts of Bosnia.

The army was withdrawn before the Serbs arrived. The top leadership, including commander Naser Oric had left almost 2 months before and didn't bother to return.

This is a picture of him in Tuzla after he'd left Srebrenica.

The rest of the military was ordered out by the brigade commanders on the eve of the fall and they slipped out of the town in darkness to eventually reach Muslim-held territory.

The thousands of Muslim men (estimates from 12,000-18,000) had many miles of Serb territory to travel through. Some were killed in skirmishes and battles on the way and others were killed by mines.

14 posted on 11/22/2006 1:04:14 PM PST by joan
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To: secretagent; kronos77
Both of you see Clinton as a war criminal for bombing the Serbs

I am not sure what exactly his personal responsibility was. I remember that he was very hesitant to take side against Serbs and that he was put under tremendous pressure for being an Chamberlain like "appeaser" both by Democrats and Republicans.

but disagree as to whether or not the Serbs massacred 8,000 muslims from Srebrenica.

I followed the events around Srebrenica as they were taking place and it was quite obvious that there was a malicious spin and distortion applied, designed to make Serbs look evil.

Start with this: Was the Srebrenica 'Massacre' a Hoax?

15 posted on 11/22/2006 1:10:02 PM PST by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: A. Pole

Thanks - a lot to read (groan), but I asked for it!


16 posted on 11/22/2006 1:23:28 PM PST by secretagent ((Trying on the neoconservative hat now))
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To: joan

Thanks. Do you also see the "8,000 killed in captivity" story as a hoax?


17 posted on 11/22/2006 1:31:27 PM PST by secretagent ((Trying on the neoconservative hat now))
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To: secretagent
Check this out.
18 posted on 11/22/2006 2:39:49 PM PST by getoffmylawn (Greg Dulli will steal your girlfriend.)
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To: secretagent
Not 8,000. Muslim combatants were rounded up and executed. I dont know the numbers but 2-3,000 maybe. A wife of japaneese ambasador in Belgrade started reseach of her own in 1996, and she found numerous names of of suposedly killed muslims being reported as voters in Tuzla, Sarajevo and Zenica after the war. Massacre-yes, genocide-no If it was organised, planned and executed it was planed by West/NATO/Clinton and let execution to avenging Serb forces. Also bare in mind that Serbs hade conscript troops and most of them were made of locals, therefore seeking vengance against muslims. read Julia Gorin s article: Remember Srebrenica — a.k.a. ‘So what if we globalized al Qaeda!’ http://www.jewishworldreview.com/julia/gorin_2005_07_11.php3?printer_friendly excerpt: "The widely cited 2002 official Dutch report on Srebrenica seems to confirm the use of such tactics. As BBC.com reported that year, the Dutch Government "pins part of the blame on the Bosnian Muslims themselves, saying the Bosnian army had provoked attacks." Srebrenica Muslims "ravaged and ransacked neighbouring ethnic Serb villages," continues Kliphuis, "killing and maiming the residents, who were often too old to offer any resistance….The Serb villages were then set on fire." After his role in killing up to 2,000 Serbs, Oric himself fled Srebrenica just before it was stormed by the Bosnian Serb army. The Serbs evacuated women, children and elderly before the males were killed without being distinguished as civilians or POWs, making Srebrenica a massacre, something the Serbs admit." And for involment of MI6 in Bosnian war, Pakistani president Perverz Musharaf in his autobiography admits that Brits recruited islamists in london for foghting in Bosni and Kosovo. James Bond working for Bin laden...
19 posted on 11/22/2006 2:45:48 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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To: secretagent
Not 8,000. Muslim combatants were rounded up and executed. I dont know the numbers but 2-3,000 maybe. A wife of japaneese ambasador in Belgrade started reseach of her own in 1996, and she found numerous names of of suposedly killed muslims being reported as voters in Tuzla, Sarajevo and Zenica after the war.

Massacre-yes, genocide-no If it was organised, planned and executed it was planed by West/NATO/Clinton and let execution to avenging Serb forces. Also bare in mind that Serbs hade conscript troops and most of them were made of locals, therefore seeking vengance against muslims.

read Julia Gorin s article: Remember Srebrenica — a.k.a. ‘So what if we globalized al Qaeda!’

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/julia/gorin_2005_07_11.php3?printer_friendly

excerpt:

"The widely cited 2002 official Dutch report on Srebrenica seems to confirm the use of such tactics. As BBC.com reported that year, the Dutch Government "pins part of the blame on the Bosnian Muslims themselves, saying the Bosnian army had provoked attacks."

Srebrenica Muslims "ravaged and ransacked neighbouring ethnic Serb villages," continues Kliphuis, "killing and maiming the residents, who were often too old to offer any resistance….The Serb villages were then set on fire." After his role in killing up to 2,000 Serbs, Oric himself fled Srebrenica just before it was stormed by the Bosnian Serb army.

The Serbs evacuated women, children and elderly before the males were killed without being distinguished as civilians or POWs, making Srebrenica a massacre, something the Serbs admit."

And for involment of MI6 in Bosnian war, Pakistani president Perverz Musharaf in his autobiography admits that Brits recruited islamists in london for foghting in Bosni and Kosovo.

James Bond working for Bin laden...

20 posted on 11/22/2006 2:48:19 PM PST by kronos77 (-www.savekosovo.org- and -www.kosovo.net- Save Kosovo from Islam!)
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