Skip to comments.The Gentleman From Virginia
Posted on 11/30/2006 8:39:48 AM PST by AnnGora
WASHINGTON -- When Ronald Reagan's former secretary of the navy, James Webb, eked out victory against the Republican Senator George Allen in Virginia, what did the Democrats gain? To be sure they gained control of the Senate. That has been widely noted. Less widely noted is the fact that they gained something infinitely more subtle, but delightfully more amusing as will become apparent in the months ahead. In Webb they gained yet another very unpleasant person as a conspicuous member of the party hierarchy. He will not be easily obscured. Webb now takes his place with Hillary Rodham Clinton, Dr. Howard Dean, Al Gore, Jean-Francois Kerry, and so many other Democratic notables as a rebarbative blowhard with whom you would not want to share a gondola.
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A great read. Yes, the ThugoRats keep tacking up more poster children....let the good times roll :-)
Newt Gingrich on the same playing field as Howard Dean and Al Gore? I'm really surprised at him being labeled a stinker. I certainly don't think that Newt is the end-all, be-all, but come on.
At what point in time will the Sheeple even notice?
You know... politics... if you make the most of it, you work hard, you use some common sense, and you make an effort to be patriotic, you can do well. If you don't... you get stuck as the ski-bum-boy-toy of a gin-soaked ketchup dowager.
I used to get mad at the democrats for being so nasty but I have come to the conclusion that being nasty is in their genetic make up so maybe they just can't help but being what they are, just nasty little people.
My question exactly. These are they people put into office by voting Americans. Simply amazing.
They won't... the view from inside their rectum is very limited.
IMO, Virginians prefer civility. Politicians of both parties in this state tend to avoid making fools of themselves.
I wonder what has transpired between Tyrrell and Newt for him to put Newt in such company.
So Webb is a scumbag. Surprise, surprise....
Oh, if only this would fit in a tagline, I'd ask to borrow it!
"At what point in time will the Sheeple even notice?"
From what I've seen, the Bush haters are a low and vile mob. They want their heroes to be nasty - even vicious.
" I used to get mad at the democrats for being so nasty but I have come to the conclusion that being nasty is in their genetic make up "
I'v come to the conclusion that Democrats attract the most flawed among us.
They welcome outlandish behavior, do not set boundaries on ethics and morals and always excuse violations of most standards.
They make society's outcasts feel welcome and comfortable.
Webb was just "earning his bones", to borrow a phrase from the Great Dissembler.
Webb--He doesn't know to act right. Nothing of substance will be of service to Virginia.
With Snake Leahy, dumber-than-a-box-of-rocks Patricia Bin Murray, dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks Barbara Boxer, Mime Soros-puppett Casey, drunk frat boy Teddy, Smarmy Schumer and all but a handful of other assorted rogues, who's even going to notice? Yeah, possibly the sheeple of Virginia-- in 6 more years.
But for now, it's like adding another turd to a septic tank.
It seems Mr. Tyrrell has first hand knowledge of Webb's low class or no class demeanor, probably the latter. It may turn out to be a long six years for James before he retires.
Commenting further on Bob's article, I knew a man several years ago who was part of AF security on AF1 during the Carter-Reagan administrations. His tales supports what Bob says about the Dems - nearly every Dem he had contact with - including Carter - were rude boors. The Reagans and the Bushes were gracious, polite individuals.
According to the Hill, Webb even told a source for the paper that "he was so angered by this [encounter] that he was tempted to slug the commander-in-chief."
I almost wish he had. I suspect he would have never been sworn in at all.
Sounds like Sentator Webb has a little anger management problem. Had he given into this temptation, he'd be in a jail cell right now.
"At what point in time will the Sheeple even notice?"
When they stop buying the PR crap that gets passed off as a political campaign. When you point out a candidate's foibles, you get accused of negative campaigning, for Pete's sake.
Yeah they are all nut jobs
But that didn't stop the voters from electing them and damn near making Gore president and Kerry only lost by one state
I'm not sure he's gonna make it 6 years. He's got the Nixon persona. He played a lot of dirty tricks on Allen.
If I were in the media, or in the GOP, I'd start looking at the info in the public records to see what laws he violated during the election. I bet there are a bunch. The most obvious place to start would be with fundraising. He's the kinda guy who left a lot of buried bodies in his path.
Tyrrell does have a way with words.
Newt is a failure, as are his statements. He has no place in the Republican Party, after stating that MILITARY ACTION IN IRAQ IS A FAILURE. He is not worthy of print. I will actively work against ANYTHING he does in the future.
To me, Newt has an edge about him. He's in the same category as Dick Morris. I will listen to them when they come on with O'Reilly or Hannity, but I am alwasy glad to see them go. Guess Tyrell knows something more about Newt.
All good points but short of someone having a video of him murdering someone he'll surely weather his six years, he's a donk. :-)
He didn't get his way, so he quit. In his resignation letter, Webb said he couldn't support him (Carlucci) personally, due to his (Carlucci's) previous decison of not backing the 600 ship Navy budget.
Why would Webb use "personally" in his resignation letter, or is that just boilerplate for the occasion?
We may have a live one here.
I seriously doubt this happened as he related it...that does not sound like something W would say or how he would say it.
He reminds me of a puffed up school yard bully trying to promote his toughness by lying and exaggeration, I'd say the Senator elect has serious self-esteem issues.
You sure that's not "making his bones"?...a phrase which goes back to an institution far older [and at least as moral] as the great dissembler.
By golly, you're right.
What's he talking about? That describes any politician.
He reminds me of the worst side I've read about Jefferson Davis. When he was a Senator, everyone says he used to take political disagreements as an insult on his honor.
a friend of mine who worked for the Joint Chiefs of Staff said based on her experience with webb the folks of VA won't have to put up with him for too many years as he always gets bored and quits whatever he's doing...one can only hope! (Now for a much more important question - who the he!! is Alabama going to hire as our new coach?)
Tyrrell's article still manages to point out Webb's virtues, leaving out his perverse scribblings, Klan-shoots, and rabid anti-Semitism.
I starting to believe that Webb's tough guy/Irish bully act is just that, an act. Yes, he is a hothead, but a brawler ready to spring into action at any time? How many fist fights has he had in the past 25 years or so? I would think that if he had punched out even one person during that time it would have already become known. The secondhand report of his wanting to punch the president is just to inflate his ego and play to the haters in the Rat party. It reveals not only a boor, but a coward.
Of course, Webb's the turncoat, but Tyrrell doesn't come out of this looking that good either.
The "I always knew he was a louse or a loony but couldn't tell you until he went over to the other side" approach leaves a very bad taste in the mouth.
I'm guessing that TAS didn't have too much to say about Webb back then; Webb was just a news blip before disappearing after quitting his Secretary's position in a hissy fit. Feel free to research it, though.
I'm just here with my own tagline, don't mind me.
You can add Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) to the list, too.
I think Webb went to that dinner with hopes of winning brownie points in the media for dissing President Bush. Sometimes things don't go as planned.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I am getting tired of the rudeness and lack of civility in Washington. Nasty people, just plain rude and nasty.
He was quite an up-and-comer back then. Annapolis, Vietnam, and Secretary of the Navy. The American Spectator did review his novels in 1981 and 1984. The prospect of a writer who was both a veteran and at the time a conservative must have been appealing to them. I seem to remember something by him in one of their issues, maybe Christmas book recommendations, though perhaps I'm wrong: it could have been John Lehman. Unfortunately, the Spectator's old articles aren't online and most libraries only keep a few years issues on hand. Maybe Lexis/Nexis has more.
Webb's book Born Fighting did get a very good review in National Review, and he had an article published in the Weekly Standard. If they want to attack him now, fine. He switched sides, not them. But Tyrrell's account looks like a cheap shot. Tyrrell wouldn't have brought up Webb's past conduct if Webb hadn't switched parties, so it would probably have been better to have left it out. As it is, it looks like a kiss-and-tell David Brock move on Tyrrell's part. George Will says pretty much the same thing as Tyrrell does but doesn't claim to have known it all along.
As for your opinion that the article is a cheap shot, well, this is Bob Tyrrell, whose magazine regularly had the "Enemies List," one of my favorite regular features along with "Current Wisdom." And TAS did print the troopergate stories which led to the Paula Jones lawsuit, which in turn led to so much aggravation and misery for Slick. Perhaps Tyrrell does throw the low blow sometimes, but at least he always fights.
Absolutely agree with you. Newt's got nowhere to go as far as I'm concerned. And comments like the above puts him in a class of Republicans (and unfortunately, there's a lot of them) who are working against the U.S. military mission instead of for it and I will not actively support him in any elected capacity. I used to love him in '94, even own his video tapes. So that should tell you how low regard I hold those democrats because I don't think Newt is low enough to join them.
I agree with you 100%!