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David Irving: Jews should ask themselves why they are hated
Haaretz ^ | December 23, 2006 | Amiram Barkat

Posted on 12/23/2006 1:58:30 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

Holocaust denier David Irving on Friday said Jews should ask themselves why they have been hated throughout history.

"They [Jews] should ask themselves the question, 'Why have they been so hated for 3000 years that there has been pogrom after pogrom in country after country?', said Irving, speaking at a press conference he convened in England on Friday, a day after he was released from an Austrian prison.

Irving, who was sentenced to three years in prison for denying the Holocaust, was released last week after his appeal was granted.

Asked if he sees himself as anti-Semitic, Irving said, "No, I like to think I am not."

But immediately following his answer, Irving expressed his support for Mel Gibson's comments that "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world."

Irving also took pride in the success of his books and claimed that he the fortune he made from sales of his biography on World War II German General Erwin Rommel enabled him to walk into a car showroom with a paper bag stuffed with cash to buy a "Nigger brown Rolls-Royce."

Irving's comments aroused great anger within Britain's Jewish community.

Lord Janner, president of the Holocaust Educational Trust, said Irving's release was "unwarranted" and that Irving's "latest comments were totally to be expected and should be totally ignored."

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: antijew; antisemitism; davidirving; hatespeech; holocaust; irving; nazi; racist; stuckonstupid
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1 posted on 12/23/2006 1:58:33 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

David Irving should ask his parents if he was repeatedly dropped on his head as a child.


2 posted on 12/23/2006 2:04:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
The Jews are so hated, they even hate themselves. I suppose Josephs brothers really liked him when they threw him in a pit and sold him into slavery though. /sarcasm

Why indeed?

3 posted on 12/23/2006 2:05:05 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Perhaps the Jews should consider the motto "Oderint, dum metuant."


4 posted on 12/23/2006 2:08:24 PM PST by magslinger (An open mind is like an outhouse. Sooner or later someone is going to fill it.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

It's completely stupid that this guy should have been imprisoned for three years for freedom of speech:

If instead he'd been allowed to wonder around expressing his views, someone may have shot him in the head by now, putting him out of his deranged misery and doing society a huge favor.


5 posted on 12/23/2006 2:09:37 PM PST by baa39 (Merry Christmas!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Jimmy Carter is a bigger anti-semite than Michael Irving.


6 posted on 12/23/2006 2:10:16 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: cripplecreek
David Irving should ask his parents if he was repeatedly dropped on his head as a child.

Not often enough, and from insufficient height.

7 posted on 12/23/2006 2:11:33 PM PST by dighton
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To: West Coast Conservative

The Jews are hated because many of them are generally better than alot of other people. They have comprised most of the greatest beings in the history of the world. Therefore, people are very jealous of them and want to get rid of them.

Mr. Irving must be very jealous because he knows that he is a hopeless retard. Why must God keep letting these types of people exist? sigh


8 posted on 12/23/2006 2:18:38 PM PST by Soothesayer (Birth is murder!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I always thought its because some people dont like bagels


9 posted on 12/23/2006 2:20:44 PM PST by woofie (For some people self hatred may be justified)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Ignoring this fellow's obvious issues of bias and anger, what is the answer to that question? Certainly, Jews, more than any other group, have been the target of prejudice and hatred. Why is that? Why should this one group be the subject of so much hostility?


10 posted on 12/23/2006 2:24:04 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: West Coast Conservative
They [Jews] should ask themselves the question, 'Why have they been so hated for 3000 years that there has been pogrom after pogrom in country after country? The answer to that one is easy for anyone who has read the Bible passage where Moses is shown the Burning Bush. That has turned out to be, perhaps, the most prophetic passage of the Bible. The Jews exist to serve G-d and keep his word. The price of that is that they will constantly be tested in a variety of ways--ranging from obstracism to genocide. Even the "Golden Ages" that Jews enjoy from time to time (like the one they have experienced in America) are a test of sorts. It becomes oh-so-easy to blend in, become secular, and forget your faith. This is why there are so few Jews, even though they have been around so long. Like the Marines, the Jews will always be the few and the proud. Unlike them, they will enjoy little glory--on Earth at least.
11 posted on 12/23/2006 2:26:08 PM PST by rbg81 (1)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I won't deny the holocaust but his question: why have the Jews been hated for 3000 years is a fair one.
They have had a rather dificult time of it during that 3000 years.
And it hasn't all been mooselimbs.
Incidently I do support Israel, I just don't understand why Olmert is such a patsy girlie man, cept to say he is a lawyer. Israle better take out Irans nuke program or it will perish.


12 posted on 12/23/2006 2:26:50 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Continental Soldier

The fact that they call themselves "The Chosen People" doesn't help. I think this arouses anger and jealousy in a lot of people--especially those who suspect it is true.


13 posted on 12/23/2006 2:27:53 PM PST by rbg81 (1)
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To: West Coast Conservative

This Irving guy is deliberately provocative, and (so far as I understand) he has been shown to sometimes get his facts wrong, but I fail to see why he was in jail to begin with. Also I think the suggestions here and elsewhere that he deserves violence for being a lying jerk are way, way off the mark. Treating his personality and veracity issues as though they are of a different and more critical type than say those of Michael Moore or of any number of Muslim firebrands is not good for our society and is, I believe, particularly harmful to Jews in the end. That David Irving gets thrown in jail for expressing opinions while Michael Moore and Mullah Whoever do not kinda supports at least part of his case.


14 posted on 12/23/2006 2:28:36 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: LdSentinal
Jimmy Carter is a bigger anti-semite than Michael Irving.

Is it worse to deny the holocaust and to be an anti-semite or to not deny the holocaust and to be an anti-semite anyway? I would think that the former because the denial of the holocaust is driven by blind hate.
Notwithstanding, Jimmy Carter is definitely an anti-semite like many on the left.
15 posted on 12/23/2006 2:29:44 PM PST by etradervic (Merry Christmas)
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To: West Coast Conservative

From another article linked in this one:

"Irving has contended that most of those who died at concentration camps like Auschwitz succumbed to diseases such as typhus rather than execution."


As if that would have made the Nazis blameless. The world would be so much better without garbage like this guy.


16 posted on 12/23/2006 2:30:29 PM PST by kenth (I wish compassionate conservatives were more compassionate to conservatism.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

As God and Jesus is hated by much of the world what is so unusual that Jews be treated the same way. They are His people so what is the problem? In a not so visible state, Christians are now hated and I am sure it is not going to get any easier.


17 posted on 12/23/2006 2:33:08 PM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: rbg81

" This is why there are so few Jews, even though they have been around so long.'

The Holocaust didn't help.


18 posted on 12/23/2006 2:33:11 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: magslinger
Perhaps the Jews should consider the motto "Oderint, dum metuant."


19 posted on 12/23/2006 2:33:12 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: baa39
"It's completely stupid that this guy should have been imprisoned for three years for freedom of speech:"

I think only the United States has a guaranteed right of free speech.

20 posted on 12/23/2006 2:33:31 PM PST by redhead (...frammin' at the jim-jam, frippin' at the krotz...)
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