Bush Warns Iranians (we are effectively at war with Iran)

NY Sun ^ | January 11, 2007 | Eli Lake

[nitzy]

I have heard too much tough talk and seen too little action against the axis of evil to believe that anything will be done. I applaud the president on his new words but that is as far as I will go.

[jwparkerjr]

I think the most important single word in the entire speech was "network"! In my thesaurus that's codespeak for striking anywhere they find evidence of activity that threatens our forces or interferes with the goal of bringing security to Iraq!

The word "network" in my mind stretches out in all directions and when you find one node then you find others.

I am now in "wait-and-see" mode. Let's see what actions follow the encouraging words we heard.

[Cap Huff]

" Knock it off, or BEND OVER."

And what I find interesting is that the raid on the "consulate" took place just about the time the President finished his address. Our guys were on the way while he was "dialoging" with Iran. Let's hope the five people arrested will be dialoging a whole lot . . . We ask question --- they give answer.

[IrishMike]

I have heard too much tough talk and seen too little action against the axis of evil to believe that anything will be done.
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I've noticed a very significant increase in military activity in the last week or two, EVERWHERE.

[dmz]

If I remember my civics lessons well enough, the State Dept and Colin Powell reported to the President of the United States of America. Pretending that Powell was off making policy by himself is naive.

[mc5cents]

Americans love winners and loyal winners especially.

This man would agree with you....

Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bullshit. Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle. You are here today for three reasons. First, because you are here to defend your homes and your loved ones. Second, you are here for your own self respect, because you would not want to be anywhere else. Third, you are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight. When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American." --General Patton

[Eclectica]

"...Silly journalists - we have been at war with Iran since they stormed our embassy.

And counterfeited our currency—justification right there!

[Kenton]

Ok, so what I'm getting out of all this is that Bush is effectively letting Iran know that he's getting ready to free up our troops in Iraq, and that means we can concentrate on that withered midget running the show in Tehran?

Hey Mahmoud - BOO!

[IrishMike]

Looks that way,
we didn't need a 2nd carrier group for Somalia,
lots of aircraft and additional firepower.

[Thermalseeker]

I wish our leaders were a little more pro-active.

And some creative thinking in regard to tactics would be nice, too. As you suggest there are a lot of "creative" ways to hamstring Iran without our troops being directly involved....yet

[TheRobb7]

I'm with ya' on that. Or maybe we could supply Iranian dissidents with IEDs..... if it's good enough for the goose, it's good enough for the gander. :)

[wildbill]

Why did no one know that the Sadr supporters, the Mahdi army, was off limits. No wonder the violence wouldn't end when one side gets a "king's X" card to pull out.

More political bull---- during a war, just like Vietnam. Kill anyone with a gun and let Allah sort 'em out.

[7thson]

Are they doing that also? I thought that was the North Koreans. A pox on both their houses!

[Earthdweller]

Eschewing advice from his father's secretary of state, James Baker, to open a dialogue with Iran and Syria

I'm glad W had that little "chat" with them.

Check that one off of the Baker plan.

[untrained skeptic]

There is important infrastructure in Iran that we don't want to destroy.

A neutron bomb would be a much better choice. It would also be a lot less expensive than a conventional bombing campaign. However, using a weapon of mass destruction such as that could have far reaching implications we wish to avoid.

So I guess if we take the fight to Iran we'll be reducing a lot of it to rubble.

[DCPatriot]

That last sentence is the closest Mr. Bush has come to announcing attacks on Iranian territory..."

And raiding the Iranian Consulate in Iraq...arresting five...is the first salvo.

[Eclectica]

Are they doing that also? I thought that was the North Koreans. A pox on both their houses!

I read that Iran was counterfeiting US dollars in U.S. News & World Report. (Eight-ten years ago).

Here's what I found in a few minutes' search:

"CIA believes that Iran is the #1 counterfieter of US $100 bills in the World. NoKo’s a distant second. Both use state resources to make the funny money so that the bills are almost impossible for anyone except the Secret Service to catch..."

[hyperbole2000]

Check out a contour map of Iran. It is tough to turn a mountain ito a parking lot. Even nukes are linear and can't bend around maountain valleys. Sadam made the mistake of trying to takeout Iran. Even with the financial backing of the USA and Saudi Arabia and the use of chemical weapons, Iraqi forces got turfed out of the low lying floodplains after the Iranians regrouped in the mountains and came screaming back for revenge. I am no trying to be pro-Iranian; just stating the facts.

Not dealing with the facts is exactly how we got into this mess. Don't take a knife to gun fight.

[Williams]

I understand that Iran is a tough nut to crack, plus a fight with Iran will disrupt oil at least for a while, and our air force and navy might suffer some losses. But then again, there is no way Iran can defeat the United States, and Iran is committing acts we said will not be tolerated. Plus a nuclear Iran will be a real tough nut to crack.

I'm sure Bush thought he would stabilize Iraq before dealing with Iran, and they are also hoping for Iranians to make a change internally. But we are allowing Iran to do too much to us by far.

I'll also note that while Iraq couldn't defeat Iran, the two countries stalemated for years. Iran couldn't defeat Iraq decisively, whereas we did so in short order. Admittedly that was a weakened Iraq.

[airborne]

Mr. Bush, in a much-anticipated televised speech to the nation last night,...

I'msorry,but it really pi$$eS me off when I see this.

It's PRESIDENT Bush!

Show some friggin' respect, why don't'cha?

Liberal media punks!