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AMS CERTIFIED WEATHERMAN STRIKES BACK AT WEATHER CHANNEL CALL FOR DECERTIFICATION
James Span Blog, Drudge, others ^ | 1/18/07 | James Spann

Posted on 01/19/2007 6:20:17 AM PST by AT7Saluki

Well, well. Some “climate expert” on “The Weather Channel” wants to take away AMS certification from those of us who believe the recent “global warming” is a natural process. So much for “tolerance”, huh?

I have been in operational meteorology since 1978, and I know dozens and dozens of broadcast meteorologists all over the country. Our big job: look at a large volume of raw data and come up with a public weather forecast for the next seven days. I do not know of a single TV meteorologist who buys into the man-made global warming hype. I know there must be a few out there, but I can’t find them. Here are the basic facts you need to know:

*Billions of dollars of grant money is flowing into the pockets of those on the man-made global warming bandwagon. No man-made global warming, the money dries up.

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Of course this will never appear in the DBM, only the NEW media. We accept everybody's opinions, unless you disagree of course. Follow the money.
1 posted on 01/19/2007 6:20:19 AM PST by AT7Saluki
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To: AT7Saluki

Dr. Heidi Cullen: Meathead.


2 posted on 01/19/2007 6:23:23 AM PST by RexBeach (In war there is no substitute for victory. - Douglas MacArthur)
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To: AT7Saluki

Just saw this article, as well. Classic stuff. I have become less and less tolerant of mindless followers in this country who just buy into this garbage and parrot the claims. It snowed in Malibu earlier this week, at the beach in southern California! Just great listening to the explanations by the same lefties who are trying to promote this 'warming' tripe.


3 posted on 01/19/2007 6:23:47 AM PST by raptor29
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To: AT7Saluki

The weather is more like it is today than it has ever been before.

We've been freezing our butts off in Flagstaff, AZ for more than a week.

Global warming my rosy red . . .


4 posted on 01/19/2007 6:23:56 AM PST by NaughtiusMaximus (Our troops are smart. It's our politicians who are stupid.)
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To: AT7Saluki
I have been in operational meteorology since 1978, and I know dozens and dozens of broadcast meteorologists all over the country. Our big job: look at a large volume of raw data and come up with a public weather forecast for the next seven days.

Given the wide diversity between what meterologists project for a seven day forecast from the raw data and what the weather actually does in those seven days, I find it laughable that some of these so-called "scientists" think they can even estimate with any degree of accuracy what the weather was like centuries ago and what it is going to do over the next several years.

5 posted on 01/19/2007 6:24:30 AM PST by VRWCmember (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: AT7Saluki

It's a very sad day when things are so partisan that even the weather is a political issue.


6 posted on 01/19/2007 6:26:17 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: AT7Saluki
From the comments:

It seems tolerance is not a two-way street but more of a its their way or the highway type attitude.

Welcome to the liberal mindset!

7 posted on 01/19/2007 6:27:24 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: AT7Saluki

Stalinists politicize everything, even the weather, to get what they want.

A call to silence people who dare contradict the correct Stalinist idea. Lysenko is back?


8 posted on 01/19/2007 6:28:23 AM PST by DBrow
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To: AT7Saluki

I don't know how you get your TV, but my digital cable provides me with the Weather Channel, with all their stupid chatter and Algore propaganda, and another channel, 101, that just has the weather, the forecasts, the pollen count, the tides, ect. on the screen and NO ONE-AIR idiots. Just pleasant music in the background. So when I want to know about the weather, I choose option 2.


9 posted on 01/19/2007 6:28:27 AM PST by 3AngelaD (ic.)
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To: AT7Saluki

Everyone knows that global warming is caused by Spotted Owls!!


10 posted on 01/19/2007 6:28:53 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: AT7Saluki

Nuclear Winter cures Global Warming. We have the technology ... do we have the will? Clean up all the world's shiatholes and trouble spots AND dial back the temperature at the same time ... how cool is that? /joking, sorta


11 posted on 01/19/2007 6:30:54 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: IncPen; Forecaster

ping


12 posted on 01/19/2007 6:31:53 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: AT7Saluki

Double thumbs up.

About 20 years ago I worked with a TV meteorologist who thought global warming was bunk. He had his AMS seal but he also had an executive producer who thought global warming was something to talk about.

I wonder what he thinks about it now or has he just felt the pressure to shut up and preach the party line.

Its sad to watch so many people get swallowed up in junk science that I like to call 21st Century flat earth thinking.

I think I live in the United States, but this person at the Weather Channel must want us to have a Reichs Academy of Meteorology.


13 posted on 01/19/2007 6:32:26 AM PST by Nextrush (Chris Matthews Band: "I get high....I get high.....I get high....McCain.")
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To: AT7Saluki

This man has the grant racket down pat. There is no room for dissension. We now have very few people following the research to see where it leads, they follow the ideas necessary to get a grant.

It use to be hypothesis, theory, law. Now the new generation follows money makes the law. In this case I would look at the "springs" theory of academic advancement.


14 posted on 01/19/2007 6:33:39 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Machiavelli can be useful at times)
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
The weather is more like it is today than it has ever been before.

I think the question is "Do you feel more like you do now than you did when you got here?"
15 posted on 01/19/2007 6:34:43 AM PST by Edgar3 (DU are the first 2 letters of DUH)
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To: AT7Saluki

"E pure si muove"


16 posted on 01/19/2007 6:36:01 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding.)
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To: mbynack
Everyone knows that global warming is caused by Spotted Owls!!

Or the lack thereof....

Honestly, good on this meteorologist for calling it as it is. I will NOT watch the weather channel any more, or visit their cookie-infested, spam-filled, bloated web site. There are other weather resources available.

17 posted on 01/19/2007 6:36:04 AM PST by meyer (Bring back the Contract with America and you'll bring back the Republican majority.)
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To: Brilliant
Typical communists.

"The personal life is dead. Now everyone will be judged politically." - Strelnikov (Doctor Zhivago)

18 posted on 01/19/2007 6:38:48 AM PST by pgyanke (Gay marriage does to real marriage what counterfeit money does to real money. - Hemogoblin)
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To: AT7Saluki
Billions of dollars of grant money is flowing into the pockets of those on the man-made global warming bandwagon. No man-made global warming, the money dries up.

This is the bottom line, folks. It's all about the money. This dude is trouble now. The MSM types will smear him now. Sorry, pal, it was nice knowin' ya.

19 posted on 01/19/2007 6:39:30 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty here... move on.)
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To: AT7Saluki
This guy was on the local Lars Larson show yesterday (Lars also has a national show), and he was very informative:

Meteorologist Chuck Wiese

There is an mp3 file you can download there.

20 posted on 01/19/2007 6:48:22 AM PST by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: Brilliant
The "fear tax" is what liberals are all about now. Taxing carbon emissions, a man's carbon foot print, miles driven etc. Even the privelege of owning a car will be taxed soon enough.

Any way to create new tax revenues is the name of the game for the liberals. Fear taxes are the way to grab control of yet another phoney baloney quasi government funded scam on the dumb public.

21 posted on 01/19/2007 6:50:07 AM PST by x_plus_one (Allah has no son.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Does that mean....pure bulldroppings?


22 posted on 01/19/2007 6:53:03 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: B Knotts

JAMES SPANN ROCKS! I used to work with him in television years ago. He is the best weatherman in America. He's a legend in the Birmingham market. I can tell you firsthand that he is a good man with a strong work ethic and he is a patriot. But he's not political. Spann is an authority on weather science and I hope this story gets picked up on Fox. Forget the rest of the MSM. They will try to roast him.
Great post!


23 posted on 01/19/2007 6:58:10 AM PST by Boat Rocker
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To: OldFriend

"E pure si muove", "Yet it moves." Supposedly whispered under his breath by Galileo after he was forced to recant "Two Systems of the World".


24 posted on 01/19/2007 7:03:06 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding.)
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To: mbynack; cogitator; DaveLoneRanger
Everyone knows that global warming is caused by Spotted Owls!!

I thought it was caused by starving polar bears.

25 posted on 01/19/2007 7:11:45 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Dont overestimate the decency of the human race. H. L. Mencken)
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To: AT7Saluki
We don't watch the weather channel except occasionally during an active hurricane. Since switching to DirectTV, local on the 8s is anything but local.

The only good I've seen from the weather channel are some great gloves I got Hubby for Christmas that are the same ones they use.

26 posted on 01/19/2007 7:12:33 AM PST by sweet_diane ("They hate us 'cause they ain't us.")
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To: AT7Saluki
I don't recall where, but I read that the ice caps are shrinking --- on Mars. I might buy into the concept of "solar warming," but global warming is just another malignantly liberal lie pandering to the the illiterate, the narrow minded politically biased, thieves, fools and democrats.
27 posted on 01/19/2007 7:14:05 AM PST by ghostrider
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To: Nextrush
but this person at the Weather Channel must want us to have a Reichs Academy of Meteorology.

Sounds better in German, Reichs-Akademie für Meteorologie.

28 posted on 01/19/2007 7:20:24 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: AT7Saluki

What's this, the global warming Inquisition?


29 posted on 01/19/2007 7:21:30 AM PST by popdonnelly (Our first obligation is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: AT7Saluki

If they're decertified, will they have to turn in their tinfoil hats?


30 posted on 01/19/2007 7:22:54 AM PST by popdonnelly (Our first obligation is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: Boat Rocker
JAMES SPANN ROCKS! I used to work with him in television years ago. He is the best weatherman in America. He's a legend in the Birmingham market. I can tell you firsthand that he is a good man with a strong work ethic and he is a patriot. But he's not political. Spann is an authority on weather science and I hope this story gets picked up on Fox. Forget the rest of the MSM. They will try to roast him. Great post!

My understanding, my mom told me years ago, that James is a religious man. So, I doubt he is worried about what the pukes say or think of him. He has been around a very long time. And everyone thinks very highly of him around here.

31 posted on 01/19/2007 7:24:26 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Marxis-Dimocrats stand for everything I hate and wish to see destroyed, including them!)
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To: AT7Saluki
I no longer watch the Weather Channel. They have very little weather in it any more, any way. Now in the evenings, it is a clone of Cullen, "Abrams & Bettis". (WTH?)

I used to like being able to track storms coming in in the evenings by their radar maps, etc... Now, they have nothing but pointless, boring, "Storm Stories" (WTH?) or other useless garbage that is a total waste of time. Their Weekend programming is now like having the Oprah show do the weather.

In closing this Rant, I say; BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! You're not missing anything, anyway.
32 posted on 01/19/2007 7:28:02 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: raptor29
While I do not fall for this global warming crap, I have been seeing many posts and hearing many people talk about that since it snowed in Malibu and all of the cold temperatures seen over the past few weeks that this can't be global warming.

Global warming does not mean that a particular region will or should experience 'warming' because of global 'warming'. Global warming really means that regions around the world will experience extremes in the weather, such as drought, severe and stronger storms due to more moisture that is available for evaporation, etc.

So, snow in Malibu is rare and some people may say "see...it never snows in Malibu, so it must be global warming..."

It's called global climate change and they (scientists) do not have enough data to say definitively that this caused by man.

Just my 2 cents.
33 posted on 01/19/2007 7:33:26 AM PST by halo66
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To: RexBeach

"Dr. Heidi Cullen: Meathead."


My husband, also a meathead. He insists that Bush/Cheney and their "friends" in the big oil companies are personally responsible for "global warmning". My husband also worships at the church of the Weather Channel. Why am I not suprised at by his views?


34 posted on 01/19/2007 7:36:42 AM PST by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid.)
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To: AT7Saluki
"Billions of dollars of grant money is flowing into the pockets of those on the man-made global warming bandwagon. No man-made global warming, the money dries up."

And that says it all. well almost all except I'd like to know who's providing the $$$ to PROVE global warming exists, Soros again?
35 posted on 01/19/2007 7:36:57 AM PST by pepperdog (Being a Democrat means never having to admit you're wrong.)
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To: AT7Saluki
Global Warming is as truthfully connected with climate change as Peak Oil is truthfully connected with the supply and price of liquid petroleum fuel. Both are, sadly, ideological world views that are socialist in origin and desired effect.

It is simple to prove my assertion. Global Warming advocates never want to discuss what the previous climate extremes mean for today's statements of climate certainty. They are silent about the climate when Erik the Red settled Greenland with farmers and ranchers, or just a few centuries later when the climate grew so cold that 1850 was known in Europe and New England as the Year Without a Summer.

Similarly, advocates of Peak Oil don't want to discuss how easily higher prices spur changes in behavior, innovation and substitution. The mere fact that they are silent about the United States having more hydrocarbons in the form of coal than the Saudis have in the form of crude oil, helps us connect the dots to an agenda that has little to do with energy and far more with command and control of governments and citizens.
36 posted on 01/19/2007 7:37:27 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I thought it was caused by starving polar bears.

No, it's caused by increasing flatulence due to health advocates pushing a high-fiber diet. This diet thing started in the 70s (Dr. David Reuben wrote the "Save Your Life Diet" book in 1976) and the increased methane emissions have warmed the planet. Right?

37 posted on 01/19/2007 7:43:25 AM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator

Right. :-)


38 posted on 01/19/2007 7:49:03 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Dont overestimate the decency of the human race. H. L. Mencken)
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To: AT7Saluki

Brit had a clip on Special Report last night. This woman also said something about those who denied global warming also believeing hurricanes going clock-wise. Brit pointed out that hurricanes DO go clock-wise in the Southern Hemisphere - where they are called cyclones.


39 posted on 01/19/2007 7:51:17 AM PST by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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To: AT7Saluki
The Weather Channel will be turned off in my house as of tonight. I've liked their programming less and less, and this is the final straw. I'm also looking around on the TWC site for an EMail address so that they know this. Anyone have any good contact info?

Weather forecasting is a science, not an opinion. Any 'service' that can't present scientifically based facts can't be accurate, IMHO.

40 posted on 01/19/2007 7:56:20 AM PST by wbill
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To: AngieGOP

my guess your husband is worshipping at the WC because of Stephanie Abrams, Sharon Resultan, etc

:-)


41 posted on 01/19/2007 8:01:49 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: AT7Saluki
*Billions of dollars of grant money is flowing into the pockets of those on the man-made global warming bandwagon. No man-made global warming, the money dries up.

Says it all.

42 posted on 01/19/2007 8:03:35 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RexBeach

As a fellow Juniata College alum, please accept my apology for her foolishness.


43 posted on 01/19/2007 8:05:55 AM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: AT7Saluki

Dr. Heidi Cullen, the Grand Inquisitor of the Ecological Inquisition and enforcer of the man caused global warming dogma and Al Gore the global warming Savonarola.


44 posted on 01/19/2007 8:20:44 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: The Great RJ

That said, she should be run out of town on a rail and made the laughingstock of the entire world:)


45 posted on 01/19/2007 8:22:14 AM PST by PLOM...NOT! (Checking in from Wisconsin)
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To: theBuckwheat
The mere fact that they are silent about the United States having more hydrocarbons in the form of coal than the Saudis have in the form of crude oil, helps us connect the dots to an agenda that has little to do with energy and far more with command and control of governments and citizens.

You give them too much credit. I think they're too stupid to have an agenda.

These people believe what they're told to believe.


46 posted on 01/19/2007 9:01:23 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Fake but Accurate": NY Times)
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To: VRWCmember
Given the wide diversity between what meterologists project for a seven day forecast from the raw data and what the weather actually does in those seven days, I find it laughable that some of these so-called "scientists" think they can even estimate with any degree of accuracy what the weather was like centuries ago and what it is going to do over the next several years.

Past climate can be estimated from forensic information (tree rings, pollen in soil layers, et cetera). So that's actually pretty solid.

Future climate is something of a mystery, as predicting it depends on assumptions that may be overriden by reality at any moment.

47 posted on 01/19/2007 9:06:32 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

"Hey! Is that the sun up there?"

"I don't know. I'm a stranger in town!" -Curly Howard


48 posted on 01/19/2007 9:23:32 AM PST by RexBeach
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To: AngieGOP

You might want to ask him:

If Global Warming is caused by human activity/industry/Big Oil, what caused the ice age and the warming afterwards, and all the warm/cool cycles before then?

If Global Warming is caused by humans, why are Mars and other planets also experiencing a warming trend?


49 posted on 01/19/2007 10:09:27 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat (An easy 10-team playoff based on the BCS bowls can be implemented by next year. See my homepage.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Past climate can be estimated from forensic information (tree rings, pollen in soil layers, et cetera). So that's actually pretty solid.

Yes, but the claims about global warming and especially global warming vis a vis "greenhouse gasses" or carbon emissions would depend on the accuracy of those estimates. If those estimates regarding temperatures from centuries ago are off by 3 or 4 percent due to changes in other variables that weren't included in the models, then the claims about global warming become more dubious, and the extrapolations and trends predicting continued warming as a result of human activity are pure fantasy.

50 posted on 01/19/2007 10:25:12 AM PST by VRWCmember (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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