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Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative -- And an electable one, at that.
City Journal ^ | Winter, 07 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 01/24/2007 5:53:08 PM PST by Sunsong

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To: penowa
"The last time the Republicans presented that "different face" you're talking about was back in the '70's with Gerald Ford, and look what it got the country - Jimmy Carter."

Jimmy Carter was a blessing in disguise. We have had Republican leadership for for 18 of 26 years since Carter. On second thought, we have had eight years on Reagan leadership and ten years on the Bushs in the White House.
141 posted on 01/24/2007 7:11:01 PM PST by BW2221
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To: JHBowden

"Giuliani is hard-right on defense/foreign policy issues, "

Based on what record?

"If the Democrats win this election, America will lose in a big way that will make 911 look like a trivial event."

If the Liberals win this election, America will lose in a big way that will make 911 look like a trivial event.

There, fixed that for you.


142 posted on 01/24/2007 7:11:03 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

Well...you can't blame the Media too much...Put Giuliani on your cover and you sell magazines put Duncan Hunter on your Magazine and you don't sell magazines except in the 52 Congressional district.


143 posted on 01/24/2007 7:11:32 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Glad you liked it! I wish some of these folks would actually read it. But that would be conservative :-)


144 posted on 01/24/2007 7:12:02 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: PhiKapMom; Howlin
Howlin/onyx -- remember those days?

I sure do and the trash talking bashers were on the wrong side of that issue too. Perfect track record. Batting average: ZERO.

145 posted on 01/24/2007 7:12:15 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: OKSooner

You will be getting info shortly! I had to run our precinct meetings last night because our Chair went MIA and we had to slip them a week! Shortly may actually be after our Convention on the 17th of Feb when I finally get out of a County Party leadership position. I had the whole thing with nothing done dumped in my lap less than three weeks ago and been scrambling ever since.


146 posted on 01/24/2007 7:12:21 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Allen - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: tomcorn
Just out of curiosity what are the deal killers in the Conservative Bonafides list...

The problem is, with Rudy, there ain't just one big issue - there are several.

Pro-choice.

Pro-gun control.

Pro-amnesty to the point of defying the Supreme Court that New York's sanctuary policy violated federal law.

And support of gay rights (which I don't care about, but I can see why others are concerned).

So for me, Rudy starts with three strikes. In political baseball, that mean's he's out as far as I'm concerned. You can't hit a home run when you've already been called out on strikes.

147 posted on 01/24/2007 7:12:36 PM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - I still like ya, but please read the 10th and get back to me regarding Congr pardons)
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To: tomcorn

148 posted on 01/24/2007 7:12:57 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Sunsong

my main objective is to still have a country in 20 years

and if Rudy Guiliani is the best guy to protect us from from what I and all of the rest of you know is coming then the social stuff has to take a back seat

this is for survival of our kind folks.. this makes WW2 look like a side event


149 posted on 01/24/2007 7:13:18 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: penowa

Get your bunkers ready people, we are certain to lose in '08! There will be a Socialism in this land like none of us has ever before seen.

The Islamofacist attacks come later.....


150 posted on 01/24/2007 7:13:46 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: BW2221

LBJ begat Nixon begat Ford and Ford begat Carter and Carter begat Reagan.


151 posted on 01/24/2007 7:13:57 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: onyx

LOL! Got that right! That one night on the Recall threads I had a Freeper warn me to quit posting so I wouldn't get banned so he went and posted for me. Good Old Days are back except we have a ton more experience this time around!


152 posted on 01/24/2007 7:13:58 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Allen - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: PhiKapMom
Rudy has as much chance of winning the GOP nomination as your Sooners had against Boise State. Do you realize OU's coach's total income is more that the entire Boise State football budget?
153 posted on 01/24/2007 7:14:26 PM PST by BW2221
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To: tomcorn

"If someone is everything conservative but wants to ban hand guns does that nix them? "

Yes, because they do not believe in conservative/American ideals ... thus making them a non-American.

Answer me this ... should I have my guns taken away from me? Because this is what your boy Rudy would TRY to do to me and millions like me.


154 posted on 01/24/2007 7:14:46 PM PST by MaDeuce (Do it to them, before they do it to you! (MaDeuce = John Browning's gift to freedom))
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

"my main objective is to still have a country in 20 years "

If we elect a Rudy, we may not have a country in 20 years. Not one worth having, at least. One overrun with illegals. One where the population is disarmed. One where it's "Rudy's way or else".

NO MORE LIBERALS!


155 posted on 01/24/2007 7:16:45 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: dirtboy
Pro-choice.

Abortions in NYC declined under Rudy's watch

Pro-gun control.

Gun-control was the norm in NYC. Rudy cracked down on the thugs and gang-bangers. Name one law-abiding citizen who had their gun taken away

Pro-amnesty to the point of defying the Supreme Court that New York's sanctuary policy violated federal law.

Yes, and I'm discouraged by this. Please keep in mind, though that NYC is ground zero (no pun intended) for immigration. Perhaps Rudy didn't want to offend the citizens.

And support of gay rights

It's NYC, it is what it is.

156 posted on 01/24/2007 7:17:05 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here)
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To: dirtboy

So it sounds like Rudy is a solid traditional conservative on the Geopolitical, tax, crime, defense front but doesn't give a rat's ass about the culture war.

Hmm....When you get down to I don't give a rat's patoot about the culture war either. I want conseravtive Government that works isn't out to remake the nation.


157 posted on 01/24/2007 7:19:05 PM PST by tomcorn
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To: PhiKapMom
Tell me about it? I was in the middle of it!
The only difference I can see now is that this election has become a matter of survival. We can't afford to be beating up on any possible winner. Giuliani included.
158 posted on 01/24/2007 7:19:06 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: MaDeuce

i'm strong Romney right now

but Rudy isn't going to come get your guns

Rudy did cut the murder rate in half of murderous NYCity in the 90's and I doubt you will ever try to push that on the rest of the country especially now that he is running for President

if Rudy doesn't meet conservatives half way then he is an idiot,,, and he isn't


159 posted on 01/24/2007 7:19:50 PM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: tomcorn

And Hillary begat Nukes in all our major cities.


160 posted on 01/24/2007 7:20:29 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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