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Yes, Rudy Giuliani Is a Conservative -- And an electable one, at that.
City Journal ^ | Winter, 07 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 01/24/2007 5:53:08 PM PST by Sunsong

Not since Teddy Roosevelt took on Tammany Hall a century ago has a New York politician closely linked to urban reform looked like presidential timber. But today ex–New York mayor Rudy Giuliani sits at or near the top of virtually every poll of potential 2008 presidential candidates. Already, Giuliani’s popularity has set off a “stop Rudy” movement among cultural conservatives, who object to his three marriages and his support for abortion rights, gay unions, and curbs on gun ownership. Some social conservatives even dismiss his achievement in reviving New York before 9/11. An August story on the website Right Wing News, for instance, claims that Giuliani governed Gotham from “left of center.” Similarly, conservatives have been feeding the press a misleading collection of quotations by and about Giuliani, on tax policy and school choice issues, assembled to make him look like a liberal.

But in a GOP presidential field in which cultural and religious conservatives may find something to object to in every candidate who could really get nominated (and, more important, elected), Giuliani may be the most conservative candidate on a wide range of issues. Far from being a liberal, he ran New York with a conservative’s priorities: government exists above all to keep people safe in their homes and in the streets, he said, not to redistribute income, run a welfare state, or perform social engineering. The private economy, not government, creates opportunity, he argued; government should just deliver basic services well and then get out of the private sector’s way. He denied that cities and their citizens were victims of vast forces outside their control, and he urged New Yorkers to take personal responsibility for their lives....

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To: IslandJeff

GREAT! I agree with you 100%! My bet is that very few of the complainers have been in the trenches because if you have been no way would you say you wouldn't vote. I have held my nose and voted for Republican candidates that were not my first choice because the thought of giving aid and comfort to the enemy (DemocRATs) is not in the playbook! :)


241 posted on 01/24/2007 8:07:49 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Allen - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: org.whodat

LOL.

It's twue! It's twue!


242 posted on 01/24/2007 8:08:02 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.")
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To: Sunsong

Ah, now you are dead wrong. i did not call anyone any names there!


243 posted on 01/24/2007 8:09:45 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.")
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Glad that you and other FReepers are trying, that includes me as well. And and don't overlook all the help he'll get from the MSM...from what I've been reading there, only democrat candidates are in this race.


244 posted on 01/24/2007 8:11:27 PM PST by Rudder
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I am well, thank you :-)


245 posted on 01/24/2007 8:11:44 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: EnochPowellWasRight

Your comments make no sense. Did you not read what I said about BSU people coming on our message board (Sooner football message board)? I give up! No sense trying to explain what I was talking about! Don't bother to reply.


247 posted on 01/24/2007 8:12:18 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Allen - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: Rudder

"...from what I've been reading there, only democrat candidates are in this race."

Ah, you've noticed just what they consider "electable", have you? ;) A Democrat.


248 posted on 01/24/2007 8:12:22 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
we have to win any way possible.

So you are an unprincipled person?

249 posted on 01/24/2007 8:12:31 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2

and if Rudy Guiliani is the best guy to protect us from from what I and all of the rest of you know is coming then the social stuff has to take a back seat


If all you have left is Michael Jacksonland why bother saving it.


250 posted on 01/24/2007 8:12:51 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: tomcorn

Right on!


251 posted on 01/24/2007 8:13:16 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Allen - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: PhiKapMom

Light a candle or curse the darkness. The latter requires few actual resources.


252 posted on 01/24/2007 8:13:17 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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To: PhiKapMom

Was THIS clearly about BSU?

"This is a matter of survival -- some of the attacks on Rudy are so far overboard that it is hard to believe these people are Republicans although some of them have already admitted they are not.

We have to keep fighting because we cannot afford to lose the White House in 2008!"

I also posted that reply before you posted to me that this was about some silly Sooner thing.

Ah, but don't bother to reply....


253 posted on 01/24/2007 8:14:20 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: Dreagon
"He's our first pro gay marriage, pro abortion, pro gun control, pro illegal immigration conservative."

Amazing how folks are trying to stretch the definition of "conservative" these days, isn't it? IMNSHO, any one of those items you listed disqualifies a candidate from being a conservative, no matter how solid he is on the rest.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

254 posted on 01/24/2007 8:14:35 PM PST by wku man (Claire Wolfe's "awkward time" is quickly coming to an end!)
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To: DocH

Did you click on the pic?


255 posted on 01/24/2007 8:15:36 PM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: tomcorn
Rudy will take the nomination

Agreed.

256 posted on 01/24/2007 8:15:51 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: org.whodat
I am very principled if we lose this election, we lose the country. It is just that principled.
257 posted on 01/24/2007 8:15:55 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: IslandJeff

LOL!


258 posted on 01/24/2007 8:16:53 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Allen - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: freedomfiter2
If all you have left is Michael Jacksonland why bother saving it.

LOL, that is top drawer. :)

259 posted on 01/24/2007 8:17:00 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Reagan Man
helping the GOP means voting for a conservative, not a liberal.

Ever work on a campaign? You know, stuff probably beneath your enlightened opinion like doorbelling, canvassing, um, donating...?
260 posted on 01/24/2007 8:17:14 PM PST by IslandJeff (that for every right there is a duty, for every benefit an obligation)
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