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The Mars Global Surveyor [Global Warming on Mars Also]
ASTROPROF (quoting NASA) ^ | November 22, 2006 | AstroProf

Posted on 01/25/2007 12:56:45 PM PST by Moseley

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Among the findings attributed to MGS [the Mars Global Surveyor], are -- [snip]

Data show that the south polar ice cap seems to be shrinking each year, leading some planetary scientists to suggest THAT MARS IS UNDERGOING GLOBAL WARMING, MUCH AS MANY BELIEVE THAT EARTH may be experiencing. If so, this is a very interesting finding, because Mars does not have any artificial pollution to contribute to global warming.



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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; greenhouseeffect; greenhousegases; mars
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Looks like global warming on Earth CANNOT be manmade. If the sun is warming the entire solar system, then the sun is warming the Earth. The one common factor in the temperature of all the planets is THE SUN.

Note that nobody is actually looking for global warming of the other planets. These obersvations are 100% accidental. Yet, we have (accidentally) noticed global warming on Pluto, Mars, and Neptune's moon Triton. There is also unusual storm activity on Jupiter which might possibly be related to global warming of Jupiter (although as a gas planet we do not understand its meteorlogy very well).

NOTE that there are significant differences in the composition of the Northern and Southern polar caps which would make it plausible that in the relevant temperature ranges global warming would show up in the southern pole but not in the northern pole (yet). That is because the southern hemisphere's "summer" occurs at a different distance from the sun than the northern hemisphere's "summer." As a result, the mixture of dry ice versus water ice is different between the north and south poles.

1 posted on 01/25/2007 12:56:49 PM PST by Moseley
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To: Moseley
Sounds like the sun is getting hotter.

WE'RE DOOOOOMED!

2 posted on 01/25/2007 12:58:38 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Moseley

This isn't a case of global warming. It's a case a universal warming. Everything is heating up.


3 posted on 01/25/2007 12:59:14 PM PST by NCC-1701 (To boldly go where no FReeper has gone before. Live long and prosper.)
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To: Moseley

We appear to have topped out at about 18 degrees of global warming here today.


4 posted on 01/25/2007 1:00:04 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Moseley

It's the Busco oil cabal's fault.


5 posted on 01/25/2007 1:01:50 PM PST by Francis McClobber
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To: Brilliant

Bush's Fault!


6 posted on 01/25/2007 1:02:05 PM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: Moseley
Looks like global warming on Earth CANNOT be manmade

Hahaha! You poor simpleton. Don't you see that our pollution is so bad that the CO2 emissions have reached our sister planet? Can't you see? Or are you one of those people equivalent to a holocaust-denier who says global warming has something to do with natural forces beyond our control?

Go ahead. Turn a blind eye. See how far your logic and reason get you!

Oh... In case it isn't plainly obvious... this is sarcasm.
7 posted on 01/25/2007 1:02:21 PM PST by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: cripplecreek

-20 here, which feels like only -10, a dry cold.


8 posted on 01/25/2007 1:02:23 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Moseley

The rumor is that we have the same problem on the sun.


9 posted on 01/25/2007 1:02:58 PM PST by gulfcoast6
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To: Moseley

By the way... the best response I've read to people like Al Gore in a long time.

http://www.cei.org/gencon/019,05394.cfm


10 posted on 01/25/2007 1:03:58 PM PST by libertarianPA (http://www.amarxica.com)
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To: Moseley

Plutonian warming.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html


11 posted on 01/25/2007 1:04:01 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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It seems to endorse the theory that global warming is related to the amount of solar activity. Last year a Disocvery Channel program theorized that solar activity directly affected cloud formation on earth and this in turn has an impact on earth.The theory was held by a minority of scentists but more of them have converted to this view as more data appears. It is an interesting theory that needs to be studied more.


12 posted on 01/25/2007 1:04:10 PM PST by Courdeleon02
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To: NCC-1701

Solar-systemic warming?


13 posted on 01/25/2007 1:04:13 PM PST by RockinRight (To compare Congress to drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. - Ronald W. Reagan)
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To: Moseley

I think we should look into the possibility that mankind's activities on Earth are actually forestalling Sun induced global warming. By producing increased water vapor from combustion we are increasing the global cloud cover, thus reflecting solar energy back to space. Thank God we are slowing down Global Warming!!!


14 posted on 01/25/2007 1:08:01 PM PST by Laserman
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To: Courdeleon02

Water Vapor has much more effect on the mean temperatures than CO2.

Anyone that would like proof, go to any satellite weather page on the internet.

You will notice that they have VISIBLE, INFRA-RED, and WATER VAPOR views from satellite.

Notice they do not have any CO2 views.


15 posted on 01/25/2007 1:08:02 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (It's turtles all the way down.)
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To: Moseley

Where is the data on Temps for Mars and the other planets. I would love some links


16 posted on 01/25/2007 1:09:49 PM PST by ASH71
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To: UCANSEE2

What is interesting is that there are persons who think we can terraform planets. But look at our success in something so simple as even starting to control the climate of earth. Even if we had appropriate technology, we could not start due to politics. The Left would say it's too hot, the Right would say it's too cold, and ownership of the thermostate would be decided in general elections every two years. It's as bad as who controls the remote.


17 posted on 01/25/2007 1:13:37 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: ASH71

I have put up several posts already. Do a search on FR for "Mars" and "Pluto" and "Triton"

One would wish that there were a lot more out there, but (a) NASA doesn't want to find evidence that will put them out of step with the conventional wisdom on global warming, (b) this evidence is accidental. No one is intentionally looking for these effects.


18 posted on 01/25/2007 1:14:21 PM PST by Moseley (http://www.ColdPeace.com)
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To: Moseley

Your link goes to a 22 Nov article regarding the loss of the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft. Is there a direct link to the comments?


19 posted on 01/25/2007 1:16:42 PM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Moseley

Never mind. I found the quote you mentioned embedded in that article. Disregard my previous post.


20 posted on 01/25/2007 1:19:23 PM PST by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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