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Giuliani a tough conservative sell
AP on Yahoo ^ | 1/25/07 | Liz Sidoti - ap

Posted on 01/25/2007 8:32:31 PM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Rudy Giuliani's star has hardly dimmed in the five years since terrorists attacked his city on Sept. 11, 2001, and he became a national hero _ the face of U.S. resolve at a time of tragedy.

The Republican dubbed "America's Mayor" hopes to ride that celebrity and his record at City Hall to the White House by emphasizing his leadership skills and embracing the strong-on-security, limited-government tenets of the GOP.

"If he can handle the scrutiny, and if events break his way, sure, he can win," said Fred Siegel, who wrote a Giuliani biography, "The Prince of the City."

Giuliani's quest to capture his party's presidential nomination won't be easy.

He's a moderate Republican from New York City, on the wrong side of social issues in the eyes of hard-core conservatives who are a crucial voting bloc in the primaries. His mayoral tenure was marked by criticism of an overzealous police force. He's linked to the city's scandal-plagued ex-police chief Bernard Kerik. His thicket of business interests could pose conflicts. He's been divorced twice.

"I sure have strengths and weaknesses," Giuliani said recently. "I think that sort of puts me in the same category as just about everybody else that's running. Are my strengths greater or my weaknesses worse? I don't know. You have to sort of examine that. That won't be the issue."

His challenge will be to remind voters of his take-charge attitude on Sept. 11 and his two-term mayoral reign, at the same time his main rivals _ Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney _ no doubt will try to exploit his background and record. For now, both are trying to gauge how much of a threat he may be.

Giuliani, who formed a presidential exploratory committee last year, is betting that the Republican rank-and-file will look past his liabilities. His aides dismiss skeptics who say he has too many flaws to win over primary voters a year from now.

"I believe they'll look at the picture as a whole," said Tony Carbonetti, Giuliani's longtime political adviser. "This (New York) was an unmanageable city, and I think what people want today is a manager, someone to lead in difficult times and to lead in not-difficult times.

"We're going to continue to tell that story," he said.

Before Sept. 11, Giuliani was known as the hard-charging prosecutor-turned-politician who cleaned up Times Square, led the city out of fiscal despair and brought Republican rule back to the liberal mecca.

Giuliani, of course, made enemies in the process, but on Sept. 11 even his chronic critics were muted when he took charge amid the rubble of the World Trade Center's twin towers. To many, he became a picture of strength, a reminder of the resilience of the American spirit.

"He has a connection to that. He is unique. On the other hand you look at the politics and you say this is a problem," said Alex Vogel, a Republican strategist in Washington who is not affiliated with any presidential candidate.

"The question is: Can you win a Republican primary a different way? History keeps saying no. But history has never presented us with someone whose favorability numbers are as high as Rudy's."

Indeed, national polls have consistently shown him leading for the GOP nomination, and early surveys in key states show him ahead or competitive. He travels to one important state, New Hampshire, this weekend where he will give the keynote address at the state GOP's annual meeting.

For all the hype since 2001, Giuliani didn't start preparing for a presidential run in earnest until after November's elections. Thus, he has lagged behind McCain and Romney in courting fundraisers, setting up a national organization and hiring ground operatives in key states, although he has made progress on all fronts recently.

Giuliani's aides insist they're making strides toward filling out his campaign. They say he can raise the $80 million to $100 million necessary this year for a serious run. Name recognition, obviously, isn't an issue.

Neither, his supporters argue, is likability. They say he appeals to people across the political spectrum and in every region of the country, meaning he could expand the general election playing field. That, his backers say, makes him the Republican most likely to beat the presumptive Democratic front-runner, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York.

Perhaps.

But first he has to capture the GOP nomination _ and the big question is whether he can win over enough Republicans in states like Iowa and South Carolina, among the first nominating contests where voters are solid conservatives and could be turned off by his stance on social issues.

"Giuliani is going to have to convince people that he's more conservative than his record otherwise would suggest," said Peverill Squire, who teaches politics at the University of Iowa.

The former mayor's support for abortion rights, gay rights and gun control conflict with the hard-line positions of the GOP's right. His supporters say he's not as liberal on those issues as he's made out to be. Still, he's from New York _ and that alone rankles the party's conservative wing.

Despite that, Giuliani's backers contend _ and some Republican strategists agree _ that he could get support from fiscal conservatives because of his record of cutting taxes, curbing spending and promoting small government, particularly now when the base is smarting over the soaring federal deficit under Republicans.

And, with the country still at war, his link to Sept. 11 _ the brand of a strong leader _ could trump the base's concerns about his background and stand on social issues.

"Giuliani's national security credentials will allow him to span ideological divides in the Republican Party and win conservative votes," said Greg Strimple, a GOP strategist in New York who is neutral in the race.

Unknown is whether Giuliani can woo enough of those base Republican voters to win the nomination and, if not, whether he can make up the difference by attracting independents and Democrats.

"His opening could come if people really think that somebody like Hillary is running away with it, and if there's a perception that only Giuliani can beat her," said John Truscott, an unaffiliated Republican strategist in Michigan.

Another factor that could help Giuliani is how the primary calendar shakes out.

New Hampshire and Michigan hold early contests, and New Jersey, California, Illinois, Florida and other states viewed as more hospitable to a moderate may schedule their votes earlier in the year, perhaps lessening the importance of a strong showing for Giuliani in Iowa and South Carolina.

For all the obstacles, even folks with ties to Giuliani's opponents can't deny that the New Yorker has a shot.

Said Ken Khachigian of California, who served as a strategist for President Reagan and was with McCain in 2000: "I would never sell Giuliani short."


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To: NormsRevenge

Two virtues that define Rudy: indefatigable and Mr. Teflon. The latter reminds me of Ronald Reagan.

I could vote for him, but I'll wait it out until a real conservative comes along.


61 posted on 01/25/2007 9:08:25 PM PST by baubau
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To: NormsRevenge

In the end, if it's him or her, It's him.

I like that line a lot.


62 posted on 01/25/2007 9:08:30 PM PST by baubau
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To: PhiKapMom

Try pondering the explosion here if the two men run together on the same ticket....lol.


63 posted on 01/25/2007 9:08:40 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: kinoxi

I am sorry I posted to the wrong person.


64 posted on 01/25/2007 9:10:17 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Steele - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: onyx

ROFLOL!!!


65 posted on 01/25/2007 9:10:44 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Steele - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: onyx
You'd think that posters here would know by now that we're all capable of making our own choices without their input.

Where you getting these radical ideas?(s) You some kind of conservative republican? Imagine - believing that people can think for themselves or figure things out for themselves - or solve their own problems. Why - if that started to catch on - people could no longer be controlled! Radical I tell ya(s)

66 posted on 01/25/2007 9:11:17 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: PhiKapMom

It's certainly possible. :0)


67 posted on 01/25/2007 9:11:21 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: PhiKapMom

HI HILLARY. HERE'S LOOKIN AT YOU!

68 posted on 01/25/2007 9:11:31 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: PhiKapMom
NP here. I had my new flame suit on just in case.
:)
69 posted on 01/25/2007 9:12:06 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: NormsRevenge

And so the Rudy propaganda blitz continues...


70 posted on 01/25/2007 9:12:09 PM PST by Xenophon450 (I ain't talking about romance, you may fiddle I may dance, anyway it's just a game we play.)
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To: Sunsong

Ha ha ha ha ha. Excellent, if not perfect post!!!!


71 posted on 01/25/2007 9:12:15 PM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: prov1813man

Tell me what Pee Wee and Hitlery's hubsband have in common, there Mr. Proverbial man... (hint... it has to do with a... Oh, nevermind)


72 posted on 01/25/2007 9:12:42 PM PST by SierraWasp (Wasn't one "Co-Presidency" enough? Will we now have to see who SHE "does" in the oval office???!!!)
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To: BunnySlippers

That's one is even funnier!


73 posted on 01/25/2007 9:12:56 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Steele - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: Talking_Mouse

This will be where he will need to shine, by that likely re-define himself and perhaps forsake some previous stands on issues..

Whether folks will trust him on his word were he willing to forsake his own personal views for the party is another question.

Some soul searching on both his part and the voters will need to be done. I don't see it likely as some others have offered that he would reverse the current administration stances on key social issues re: abortion, gay rights etc, or for that matter, seize everyone's guns, especially in a time of war (tho that offering may not be of much comfort to some anyway).

It will likely end up being a decision each will make that will have to weigh their final vote against the losses that would befall us ,, we have some months before we need to start that process, fortunately.

Keep in mind , the mix of the Congress will also affect what he might even be able to do. The more seats that can be regained, the better.


74 posted on 01/25/2007 9:12:57 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... California 2007,, Where's a script re-write guy when ya need 'em?)
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To: kinoxi

No flames from me! Think we need to all order new and improved flame suits!


75 posted on 01/25/2007 9:14:12 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican - Vote Rudy/Steele - Take Back the House and Senate in '08)
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To: BunnySlippers

Of all the candidates that Hillary wants to oppose in the election, Rudy is the single most vetted one she knows she can destroy for her coronation. That ought to make you wonder ...


76 posted on 01/25/2007 9:14:30 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: kinoxi
I could care less how he dresses.

Oh, I think you do care. It seems to be an issue for you.

77 posted on 01/25/2007 9:14:46 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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To: Xenophon450

I hear ya.. it's all part of the tearing down and building up process we will all endure the next year and some months.

I don't normally jump onto most threads like this, and there will be plenty more salvos coming, that we can be sure of.


78 posted on 01/25/2007 9:16:28 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... California 2007,, Where's a script re-write guy when ya need 'em?)
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To: Talking_Mouse

He is a gun grabber who thinks it's okey to kill babies in the womb.


He thinks it's okay to kill babies that are all out but the head.


79 posted on 01/25/2007 9:16:59 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (“No, I have not supported that," Guiliani when asked about a ban on partial birth abortion)
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To: onyx
"So was OJSimpson, but like Rosie garbage mouth, he isn't seeking the GOP nomination either, so your point is.....?"

Things have a way of changing hard and fast.


80 posted on 01/25/2007 9:17:09 PM PST by Afronaut (Supporting Republican Liberals is the Undeniable End to Freedom)
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