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Wounded Iraq Vet Threatened, Spat on by 'Antiwar' Protesters (D.C. Chapter Report on 1/27/07)
Sunday, January 28, 2007 | Kristinn

Posted on 01/28/2007 5:37:22 PM PST by kristinn

I'm angry. I'm angry at the 'antiwar' protesters who heaped abuse on our troops. And I'm angry at the people who couldn't be bothered to stand up for our troops yesterday.

Tens of thousands of anti-American leftists and their dupes marched on our nation's capital calling for America's defeat in the war on terror in Iraq.

Only about forty people could be bothered to turn out in support of America's victory in Iraq. Among those forty was a civilian POW held by the North Vietnamese communists and several Iraq war veterans--including wounded warriors who left the hospital to stand up for their brothers in arms on the home front.

Why did former POW Mike Benge and Iraq vet Joshua Sparling only find a few dozen people willing to stand with them? Why, as the anti-American left is heading toward repeating their victory in Vietnam, are so many people sitting on their asses and doing nothing to stop them?

Why, when Joshua Sparling was spat on, cursed at and threatened by 'peace marchers', were there so few people there to defend his honor?

Why was Jane Fonda allowed to desecrate the Navy Memorial and only face token opposition?

Why did Mike Benge see thousands more people showing up to cheer Jane Fonda than there were to denounce her?

Those who were there to support these patriots will be posting their observations and photos on this thread. I've said my piece.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; US: District of Columbia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 82ndairborne; answer; antiwar; army; iraq; iraqifreedom; janefonda; joshuasparling; ratcrime; sparling; suspiciouspackage; usarmy; vetabuse; wcw; worldcantwait
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To: sit-rep

Who are you to insult this man who stood out there yesterday for all of us who didn't show up?

You need to find another thread, pal.


101 posted on 01/28/2007 6:48:32 PM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: trooprally; Just A Nobody; GunsareOK; JoyjoyfromNJ; Doctor Raoul; cf_river_rat; SandyInSeattle
... and everybody else (who I forgot) who drove for hours to get to DC:

Thank you!

You all did more than many who were a short Metro ride away.

I love you guys!

102 posted on 01/28/2007 6:49:56 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: RaceBannon
Ah, so now I know you lied.

Okay, as you wish.

103 posted on 01/28/2007 6:52:30 PM PST by Enosh
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To: windchime
YES!!! After a year of pain and surgery, his lower right leg was amputated in November.

HE WAS THERE!

As a matter of fact, he convinced the commies to let him speak at the Navy War Memorial in the morning. Then we went to lunch and headed to the park to fight off the commies.

He was then attending the show Gary Sinese gave last night for our troops.

The commies had movie "stars" and politicians ... we had a couple dozen FReepers and soldiers. Pathetic!!!

104 posted on 01/28/2007 6:52:55 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Just A Nobody
As in all the old media reports "Tens of Thousands" would have to mean more than 10,000,because tens is plural,so it couldn't be 10,000.

It would have to be 20,000 at least.

I agree with Kristinn and the old media.

105 posted on 01/28/2007 6:54:47 PM PST by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: sit-rep
Yea, where can a soldier "Say your piece on TV or radio."

Sounds like you are a cut, run & surrender type of guy when you say: "Why put your self in a situation that could have been WAY worse than it ended up."

Again, I say, Sounds like you are a cut, run & surrender type of guy when we have to slink away from those bent on destroying America you say:"What's your definition of Martyrdom??"

[Mr] T

106 posted on 01/28/2007 6:55:37 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: armymarinemom
I will also admit that I don't go out of town a lot when I have a son deployed.

YOU shouldn't have to!!! Your family has done quite enough to defend our country. It is time for others to step up to the plate!

107 posted on 01/28/2007 6:56:02 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: kristinn; oldglory; mcmuffin; MinuteGal; gonzo

Amen. Thanks to all you were able to stand with you against the radical left who are trying to pull off another coup like they pulled off during the Vietnam war.

If I wasn't 1,000 + miles away, I would have been there for sure.

Between John Kerry on foreign soil, calling America a Pariah in the world, and Hanoi Jane doing her anti-war thing in D.C. once again, I will be AMAZED if the Vietnam vets allow them to get away with this once again. bttt


108 posted on 01/28/2007 6:57:43 PM PST by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: kristinn
If I could have afforded it,I would have been there.I am sure I would have needed some serious bail money if I had witnessed that.I was in the US Army Infantry when she pulled that sh!t posing with her friends on that anti-aircraft gun.She is nothing but an admitted slut.Born to a good man,and she cry's the blues about having no love.If I were her father,I would not want anything to do with her at all.Her name makes my blood pressure peak.I too,am sorry for not being there.I live in Texas,so she better stay in the blue country where she is idolized.I could make it to a"Peace Rally"in Texas though.She is not that stupid to try that here.
109 posted on 01/28/2007 6:58:03 PM PST by xarmydog
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Absolutely. But we tried on Saturday. Several threads about this rally show "The Traitor" in her dishonor.

[Mr] T


110 posted on 01/28/2007 6:58:17 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: quesney
leftists digging their own grave

Nawwww, they are digging MY grave and YOUR grave. Wait for another 9-11...brilliant!

111 posted on 01/28/2007 6:58:53 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: SAMS

Thanks to you and your husband for the sacrifices you make for us. It's not your job to defend yourself here - that's what we (the beneficiaries of your husband's service) are supposed to be doing. We are supposed to have your backs over here - but sadly, we are doing a pee-poor job.


112 posted on 01/28/2007 6:59:38 PM PST by tgslTakoma
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To: Just A Nobody
"It is about time the American people woke the hell up and quit blaming everything on President Bush and expecting him to handle every dang detail of wars...at home and abroad!

When the communists manage to facilitate a Vietnam redux we won't have to worry about money, TV or beer!
"

...agreed. KIAs over the past few years are unprecedentedly low. Our President is quite fit to lead our nation in war, but most civilians here are vain and unwilling to support him.

So we "neo-cons" might be put in our place. We might get a choice between Hillary and a religious identity, socially libertine RINO, who would follow orders from Hillary's horde of "progressives." Meanwhile, we could build fallout shelters in rural getaways and look forward to a future with less money but also with far fewer "progressives."
113 posted on 01/28/2007 7:01:04 PM PST by familyop (Essayons)
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To: trooprally

LOL... I wish you could read your self.

Let me try it another way...

Would any of the troops that went to this thing, run head strong into a regiment of enemy combatants? No. They would do it a little smarter wouldn't they?!!

Being stand up is one thing, being stupid is something else.


114 posted on 01/28/2007 7:01:07 PM PST by sit-rep ( http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
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To: Little Bill

Hey Little Bill! Good to "see" you! Thanks for the bumps and a big frown on your new tagline. ;*(


115 posted on 01/28/2007 7:01:57 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: kristinn; Jim Robinson; tgslTakoma

This is a DC Chapter after-action report and should at least be listed in the Activism/Chapters category -- or is too hot a topic to give much visibility to it?


116 posted on 01/28/2007 7:03:36 PM PST by Angelwood (FReepers are Everywhere! We Support Our Troops! (Hillary's Vast Rt Wg Conspiracy))
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To: Enosh
Hell no! I was talking about the author's overall statements.

You were not. You're lying.

117 posted on 01/28/2007 7:05:20 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: kristinn
Opeds are a wonderful thing, marching in support of our troops is a wonderful thing, supporting your country is a wonderful thing. Problem is most people are to confounded by their own lives to have time to march. The left grabs up people whom have nothing better to do. But that is no excuse, most people on this blog seem to have an understanding that something big is coming. Not if but when it hits, I wonder who will those who spit on troops, threaten them, and call them murderers look to to defend their rights to do these hideous things.
Now for the good news, when the Islamic horde comes knocking on our shores, these same cowards will be the among the first to turn themselves in and will be the first to have their heads removed. So rest easy and do not be consumed by anger. Their day of reckoning is sooner than they think.
118 posted on 01/28/2007 7:08:22 PM PST by LazarusMan
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To: Just A Nobody

"Nawwww, they are digging MY grave and YOUR grave. Wait for another 9-11...brilliant!"

Just being realistic, dude. We've seen this pattern before and we'll see it again, no matter what we do.

It doesn't take a Freeper Village; it takes a crisis.


119 posted on 01/28/2007 7:09:03 PM PST by quesney
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To: trooprally
if you're down to quoting me, you're hard up. (chuckle.)

fyi, if "B" is right, maybe the WaPost & the NY Slimes is technically correct. in this particular case, 20,000 is TWO "tens of thousands". (LOL!)

imVho, ANYTHING printed by either RAG is SUSPECT, at BEST! and a DAMNED LIE at usual.

free dixie,sw

120 posted on 01/28/2007 7:09:12 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Angelwood

bttt


121 posted on 01/28/2007 7:09:22 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: kristinn

Your questions are damned good ones. I would suggest to you that most conservatives are lazy and timid. There are many excuses, and I've hard most of them. In individual cases, they can be valid excuses. But overall, that's the explanation you're looking for: Laziness and timidity. Two things the left certainly is not guilty of.

If this doesn't change, we will lose our country.

Thanks for showing up, and standing up.


122 posted on 01/28/2007 7:09:36 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: trooprally
to quote an old saying: figures don't lie, but LIARS surely figure.

free dixie,sw

123 posted on 01/28/2007 7:10:14 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: sit-rep
I blame you for this.

WHOA - back the truck up! You clearly have NO IDEA what the hell you are talking about! Kristinn did not "put" anyone anywhere!

Do you know Joshua Sparling? Do you know any of the other soldiers that came out? You don't, because if you did, you would know they make their own decisions!!!

Many of the troops asked me about the rally. They already knew about it...they were already planning to attend. They didn't even know at the time we would be there.

It is STILL somewhat of a FREE country and Kristinn cannot tell an active duty troop where he can and can not go!!!

Get a grip!

124 posted on 01/28/2007 7:11:14 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: sit-rep
Mr. Cut, Run & Surrender sit-rep

"I wish you could read your self."

Is that any thing like you playing with .... Never mind. I must remind myself to go easy on the ......

"Would any of the troops that went to this thing, run head strong into a regiment of enemy combatants? No. They would do it a little smarter wouldn't they?!!"

Like sniper fire from a building. They don't defend our County to do that. Protesting in the streets is sometimes the only way, even if the odds are against you.

Oh I forgot, cut, run & surrender to the anti-American mobs is your idea of helping the troops.

[Mr] T

125 posted on 01/28/2007 7:11:22 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: kristinn; Doctor Raoul; GunsareOK; JoyjoyfromNJ; SandyInSeattle; trooprally; tgslTakoma; ...

OH DC Patriots. I am so proud of you ! and I so much understand your frustration & your anger.

Thank you for doing what you could & being a beacon of light there.

My whole life I have been confounded by those who say they believe something & yet do nothing to support it. Offer a lot of advice beforehand & criticism afterward but LITTLE ACTION WHEN IT COUNTS. I note many who are good at the keyboard & think it is activism.. I suppose it is compared to a slug..

I mostly experience this at church but also in organizations & political arenas.

You guys are great. Keep the faith, when you do the right thing, even if you stand alone, you are worthy. Those who disappointed you with their ambivalence need to answer to their conscience. I have been so proud to be with you for the various causes the past couple years. More money & more proximity & I would be with you every time.

God Bless you ALL!


126 posted on 01/28/2007 7:12:12 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: kristinn
Because they spit on me and my fellow Americans when we returned from Vietnam and the anti-American Nazi Democrats will continue to spit on the troops and anyone else who is a true American. The people elected al Qaeda to control the United States Congress and the left controls the Nazi spit mongers so what is one to do? As I was told in San Francisco when the anti-Aemrican Nazi spit mongers were at the airport, by the police, do not say or do anything to the (protesters)Nazi or you will be arrested!
127 posted on 01/28/2007 7:12:15 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Enosh

Their "little hissy fits" have a real impact on society. If they're not answered, stupid people -- and that's a lot of people -- think that's where most of the country is. The liberal Rats gain more confidence and get even bolder and louder. And we don't get the kind of practice we need. Positive rallies for the troops are great, but, like most easy things, they aren't enough. We need to do the hard stuff too, like counterdemonstrate against the traitorous Rats.


128 posted on 01/28/2007 7:12:18 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Just A Nobody

Exactly. This person, like so many on our side, simply doesn't understand how late it is.


129 posted on 01/28/2007 7:12:57 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: La Enchiladita
You were not. You're lying.

Damn, more of that crap. Just like I never attended a troop rally.

Okay.

130 posted on 01/28/2007 7:13:17 PM PST by Enosh
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To: trooprally
For all you too far away, with the Dems in control of both Houses, the excuse of being too far away won't cut it any more.

That's easy for you to say living in Maryland.

131 posted on 01/28/2007 7:14:49 PM PST by kcvl
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To: stand watie

Thanks for the chuckle. I think I'm getting to serious tonight.

[Mr] T


132 posted on 01/28/2007 7:14:52 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: Just A Nobody

Exactly.

The idea that the leftists are just ruining their political impact is nonsense. They damned near elected a lousy candidate, Kerry, in much better political circumstances (for us) than exist now. They look bad to us, not necessarily to the Sheeple. If they're not answered and attacked, effectly, they look increasingly normal to the Sheeple, and therefore acceptable and to be taken seriously.


133 posted on 01/28/2007 7:15:15 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: DollyCali

Thank you.

[Mr] T


134 posted on 01/28/2007 7:16:58 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: SAMS
Thank you and your family for your sacrifice and service!

This was obviously not posted with you and those in your situation in mind.

Those who benefit from your sacrifices are the ones who should be standing up to the enemy at home.

135 posted on 01/28/2007 7:17:05 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: baubau; All
fyi, my "duckie" said it was always hard to get DECENT people to come out to counter-demonstrate for at least these reasons:

1. they have JOBS,

2. they have FAMILIES,

3.they don't LIKE demonstrators &

4. the CREEPS, TRAITORS & GARBAGE like sean penn, susan sarandon & the TRAITOR-*ITCH fonda make them GAG.

even though i've been known to go to a FReep with the HEROES/HEROINES of the DC chapter, i always feel like i need a hot, soapy bath afterward from just being that close to that LEFTIST FILTH & GARBAGE!

free dixie,sw

136 posted on 01/28/2007 7:17:36 PM PST by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: kristinn

Kristinn:

You are one heck of a guy. Sorry I am hundreds of miles away.


137 posted on 01/28/2007 7:18:20 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: YOUGOTIT

Thank You and all the others for your service.

[Mr] T


138 posted on 01/28/2007 7:18:44 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: tgslTakoma
the guys who threatened to shoot Josh

Was it the one on the far left? (no pun intended)

He was going jive nuts on us down at the other end before he got to Josh.

139 posted on 01/28/2007 7:19:52 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: Enosh

1. The First Amendment doesn't allowing for sedition, treason, etc.

2. You better "give a damn about their little hissy fits". We all better, because the cost is too great not to. One Vietnam was one too many. These people advocate the overthrow of our government by removing GW, and the undermining of America period.

3. Better turnout for the troops and flag? Hardly. I'm down to myself and another person. Kristinn, the author of this piece, is fairing far better. However, when was the last time you saw THOUSANDS of people stand up for this country and its' defenders? I'd love to see that and be a part of it. Let me know when it is scheduled.

Support a Leftist...do nothing.


140 posted on 01/28/2007 7:19:58 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Too many morons, so little time.)
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To: kristinn

What did Jane do at the Navy Memorial?


141 posted on 01/28/2007 7:20:29 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Too many morons, so little time.)
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To: ishabibble

Look forward to meeting you in March.


142 posted on 01/28/2007 7:21:01 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: trooprally
You forgot Justa A Nobody from below Richmond, 2 1/2+ hr. drive, and GunsareOK, at least a 2 hour drive.

How about?

1,127 mi (about 17 hours 55 mins)

143 posted on 01/28/2007 7:21:23 PM PST by kcvl
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To: kcvl
I read about FReeps all over the Country where only one or two FReepers come out. And now there will be many more, and they'll be bigger.

So please sign up for one and attend it.

[Mr] T
144 posted on 01/28/2007 7:22:00 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: Enosh

Changing the subject doesn't cut it. You stated in your first post that spitting on a soldier is protected by the First Amendment. Then you said you meant something else. That is called L-Y-I-N-G.

LYING.


145 posted on 01/28/2007 7:23:53 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: oneamericanvoice
Let me know when it is scheduled.

Sign me up, and thanks for being coherent.

146 posted on 01/28/2007 7:24:33 PM PST by Enosh
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To: Earthdweller
Motivated or manipulated?

Does it matter which one?

They were not all kids...many many adults and oldsters!!!

How does one motivate an 8 year old child to face those that disagree and have her screech vile hateful things to people she does not know???

It's a joke.
Well, when they get serious let me know because I'll be under the bed.

Just because you do not see it on the faux news, does not mean it is not happening.

147 posted on 01/28/2007 7:25:33 PM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: La Enchiladita
You stated in your first post that spitting on a soldier is protected by the First Amendment.

False.

148 posted on 01/28/2007 7:25:42 PM PST by Enosh
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To: trooprally; kristinn
I am so sorry for the lack of response.

Can I say something without being flamed?

I think the leftist orgs are simply better at this kind of thing than we are.

They have worked at this for decades, I think we are just learning. I wish I had some ideas for you, I'm a thousand mile away, love what you're doing, but damn......you've got to be better than this than the leftists because they control how it will be reported. Even if you have as many people or are ten times more rational it will be reported in a way that will not help you.

Honest question....what can we do?

149 posted on 01/28/2007 7:27:14 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: stand watie

All of these excuses are self-righteous KRAP. We are talking about two hours a year. Don't tell me ANYONE who is the least bit serious can't give up TWO HOURS A YEAR.

I mean, how much time do people spend watching TV, just for starters? Be real.

It's people like you who paralyze our movement by spouting excuses for inaction -- while implicitly insulting people on our side who DO act as losers who don't have a real life.

It's more like the other way around. Those who won't sacrifice a little time for their country are the ones who aren't living a full life. We can't retreat behind our four walls and expect to keep our country and our civilization. The wolf is always out there. In this case, the wolf is at the door.


150 posted on 01/28/2007 7:28:07 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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