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Breaking: 'Hoax Devices' Found At Several Boston Locations (Several 'Suspicous Packages' Found)
Boston.com ^ | January 31, 2007

Posted on 01/31/2007 12:04:30 PM PST by Howlin

BOSTON -- Four "hoax devices" were found at several Boston locations Wednesday, hours after officials detonated a suspicious package on an elevated structure above the Sullivan Square Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority station.

The additional packages were found at the Boston University Bridge, the Longfellow Bridge and near the intersection of Stuart and Columbus streets. A device described by officials as a pipe bomb was found in the basement of the Tufts New England Medical Center at 185 Harrison Ave.

A spokesman for the Boston Police Department said that all of the packages appeared to be similar.

"Our device was not an active device. We are still treating the area as a crime scene. There were no injuries. Everyone was evacuated properly, and everyone now back to their locations," Tufts New England Medical Center's Brooke Hynes said.

Mayor Tom Menino said that all of the packages found posed no danger, but the incidents remained under investigation. Storrow Drive eastbound was shut down for a brief time, and the MBTA suspended service on the Red Line and planned to bus afternoon commuters between Kendall and Park Street stations.

Earlier Wednesday, the state police bomb squad was called and detonated the package in Sullivan Square just before 10 a.m. Officials said it contained an electronic circuit board with some components that were "consistent with an improvised explosive device," but they said it had no explosives. They determined that the device was not dangerous, but destroyed it as a precaution.

"We determined that this device, in particular, was not explosive," said MBTA Lt. Sal Venturelli.

He said MBTA police were told about the package by a transit passenger who spotted it on a column that supports Interstate 93. The parcel was located on an elevated structure above the bus way and below I-93 in the Charlestown section of Boston at about 8 a.m.

"This is a perfect example of our passengers taking part in Homeland Security," Venturelli said.

An investigation will be conducted into how the package got there and when, he said.

Train service on the Orange Line between Sullivan Square and Wellington stations was suspended in both directions. No injuries were reported.

The northbound side of I-93 was closed, causing significant traffic backups. Motorists were not allowed to access the highway near Sullivan Square coming up from the south.


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To: Miss Marple
Are you aware that MOST PEOPLE, including MOST POLICE, don't know what a bomb is "supposed to look like?" I freely admit I don't. I know what bombs on TV look like, but I have no idea if that is accurate or not.

I understand that, but there's a difference between thinking that a boxish object that contains some volume of some unknown material might be a bomb, and a device like this which consists of a single flat panel with four D cell Duracell batteries attached.

My point is that there's no place for the explosive material to go.

While the average Police officer might have only a little better idea of what may or may not be a bomb than the average person, somewhere along the line of this escalating from a person calling the police because they were suspicions of the object, and shutting down a considerable part of the city for hours, someone who had much better knowledge about bombs should have been able to look at it, and figure out that it wasn't a threat.

I'm not saying that it's that unreasonable for somewhat paranoid person to have called the police to investigate this. It's not even that unreasonable for the responding officers to report in that they don't know what it is, and that could unfortunately result in a bit of an overreaction and the bomb squad having to respond and investigate.

However, somewhere along the line of these being reported all over town, someone would have had to have said, are you sure these are bombs? These things have been there for weeks. Why do we suspect them of being bombs?

What part is supposed to blow up? The batteries? The flat sign? The LEDs?

It's simply not reasonable for the politicians and administrators in Boston to be blaming this advertising effort for their overreaction.

Now the politicians in Boston are calling for criminal and civil penalties against these people who didn't do anything wrong. They are accusing them of felony acts and confiscating their property, as well as having city governments in other large cities confiscate them as well.

If it wasn't for the fact that this will probably work in the favor of the cartoon and the advertising company in the long run, they would very likely have a good case to sue Boston for even more money than they already wasted on the police response.

The politicians are embarrassed about how they handled the issue, so as usual they have to push the blame onto someone else and threaten and abuse their authority to threaten them into issuing an apology and accepting the blame in the eyes of much of the public.

641 posted on 02/01/2007 3:07:55 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: Miss Marple
I would rather the police be cautious about something like this rather than ignoring it.

No doubt you think I am silly. Fine with me. I don't watch cartoons for entertainment, either. I'm not very cool..

I don't think what you said is silly. I agree with it.

However, being cautious and investigating it is far different than letting this situation get completely out of control, shutting down the city, and then blaming the owners of these signs for the overreaction, including threatening criminal prosecution.

Otherwise we're going to end up shutting down cities and criminally prosecuting people for putting up Christmas decorations.

Some level of common sense must be exercised, and some checks must be in place to keep a little suspicions from shutting down cities.

642 posted on 02/01/2007 3:13:42 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: kaotic133
I hope that if you see a light board with a bundle wrapped in duct tape strapped to the bottom attached to the underside of a bridge, you don't stand around picking your nose and proclaim it to be an art project.

It's so very easy for you to declare, "I got it, everyone else is stupid" after you were informed it was an advertising campaign for an obscure cartoon.

643 posted on 02/01/2007 3:25:06 PM PST by jess35
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To: jess35

How lame is Boston that we’re frightened of flashing lights ? I’m reminded of another ad campaign – that of the Geico Caveman. I’m picturing the Neanderthal pointing at the Adult Swim Lite-Brite while cowering in fear and grunting like a monkey. Yep, that’s Boston for you !

Of course it doesn’t help that the city’s spokesman, Mayor Menino, is a dead ringer for Alley Oop.


644 posted on 02/01/2007 3:48:00 PM PST by Salem-The Witch City (Be afraid - Be very afraid)
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To: Jotmo
Were the devices telling kids to go to 612 Wharf Avenue?

Mess up the mix, mix up the mess Come on down, yo here's the address 6-1-2 Wharf Avenue 6-1-2 Wharf Avenue

645 posted on 02/01/2007 4:01:20 PM PST by manapua
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Someone remind me...did Orson Welles go to jail for the War of The Worlds broadcast?

I didn't think so.

646 posted on 02/01/2007 4:04:46 PM PST by Mr.Unique ("Are you gonna propose? Because if you're not, quit staring at me!")
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To: jess35

Look at that thing! People in ten cities looked at it for two weeks. One person freaked out and now two people are probably going to jail for a looooong time to appease people like you and cover for the stupidity of the government we pay for.


647 posted on 02/01/2007 4:12:04 PM PST by kaotic133
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To: kaotic133

Grow up. If the idiots want to advertise their stupid, juvenile cartoon for their giggly fans, then don't place the "toys" under bridges. Buy a billboard.


648 posted on 02/01/2007 4:19:28 PM PST by Jrabbit ('scuse me??)
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To: Miss Marple

BUMP


649 posted on 02/01/2007 4:45:30 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES.)
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To: Howlin
Time Warner owns CNN, Time Magazine and Turner Broadcasting.
Turner Broadcasting has the Cartoon Network which features a little Tech character that goes around giving everyone the finger. It's a children's network.
So while Mrs. x Turner is in Washington giving the Military the fist, blinking devices with the cartoon character portrayed on the front were strategically planted all over Boston.

Time Warner is run by Dick Parsons.
650 posted on 02/01/2007 4:53:33 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: TET1968
It was interesting watching CNN cover this story yesterday. ha. Had it been Rupbert Murdoch's company that had pulled this stunt, the CNN reporters would have been blowing gaskets of rage. As it was, there was mild "amazement" displayed by Anderson Cooper.

I hope Time Warner is sued out the kazoo.

651 posted on 02/01/2007 5:08:06 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: TET1968
"Adult Swim", the late night line up on Cartoon Network that ATHF is featured, is most decidedly NOT for children.

There are advisories every 30 minutes proclaiming so.

652 posted on 02/01/2007 5:11:45 PM PST by Jotmo (I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
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To: Howlin

Burma Shave.


653 posted on 02/01/2007 5:14:12 PM PST by Shellback Chuck
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To: jess35
"and proclaim it to be an art project."

But in nine of the ten cities, that's exactly what happened, for weeks!

Take a cruise through livejournal or myspace or flikr or tabblo or photobucket or Xanga or Youtube or devilducky or milkandcookies, sites where web people hang out, and you'll see that many many people looked up at the blinkies under the bridges and said, cool, over the two or three WEEKS they had to enjoy it.

Boston just had a bad day, with some real hoax bombs to deal with on top of these hoax hoax bombs.

If a reasonable person would conclude that these things were dangerous, why'd it take so long for a reasonable person, out of all the thousands (they were placed in walking areas near schools weeks ago) to drop the dime?

Why, in all that time, did the PD of all those cities miss these dangerous brightly lit signs, for weeks on end? You could see them for hundreds of yards since they were big 10mm LEDs powered by D cells instead of the usual button cells that those magnetic party lights use. They were as bright as traffic lights, and the cops in Boston missed these threatening dangerous things?
654 posted on 02/01/2007 6:27:02 PM PST by DBrow
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This is what I'm talking about. This is the result of 'genius-experts' concocting endless 'crisis' in self-importance, spending vast fortunes chasing 'paper tigers.'

The ad-campaign was entirely harmless. The media 'genius-experts' in certain locations panicked residents. That, in turn, was an 'invitation' to 'genius-experts' to abuse their positions and the public at large by hitting the 'panic button' and spending vast fortunes in SELF-IMPORTANCE.

THEN, instead of addressing the OBVIOUS, they point long accusatory fingers at somebody/anybody ELSE.

This is a 'giant-sucking-sound' out of economy.

IT MUST STOP.


655 posted on 02/01/2007 9:00:25 PM PST by 3Ons
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To: DBrow
But in nine of the ten cities, that's exactly what happened, for weeks!

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic terrorists."
-- Clarke's third law

656 posted on 02/01/2007 9:12:48 PM PST by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: kaotic133
We don't want/need your insane opinions.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Paragigm shifts. Real inconvenient aren't they? We are a nation at war. And the intelligence data readily available from the Boston Bomb hoax is very real. Its a gold mine for anyone wanting to plant bombs in Boston.

Actually you are the one who needs a bunker. You will be in need of one cause you won't be even "mind ready" about two years after the Dems win the presidency in 2008, let alone able to defend yourself or your neigborhood.

Then the drills will be for real. And these days we now enjoy will seem unfortunately idyllic by comparison.

Good Luck.

657 posted on 02/01/2007 9:18:59 PM PST by Candor7 (The most dangerous men and women in the nation are frustrated leftists.)
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To: untrained skeptic
There's no sizable component that could be holding explosives.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I could hold enough C4 in the palm of my hand to blow the engine of your car up through the roof of your garage.

But you already knew that?

658 posted on 02/01/2007 9:21:15 PM PST by Candor7 (The most dangerous men and women in the nation are frustrated leftists.)
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To: Candor7
I could hold enough C4 in the palm of my hand to blow the engine of your car up through the roof of your garage.

You must have some really, really big hands.

L

659 posted on 02/01/2007 11:14:57 PM PST by Lurker (Europeans killed 6 million Jews. As a reward they got 40 million Moslems. Karma's a bitch.)
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To: Candor7

The data is that Americans have become terrified. If I was a terrorist, sitting back watching Americans crucify two children to soothe their paranoia, I'd be pretty content that America was defeated.

You remember right, the point of terrorism is to get people to live in fear? To destroy freedom through fear?

There's no security, only an illusion. If it isn't a publicly placed bomb, it could be a natural disaster or a transportation disaster. If not that, we have enemies with ICBMs and nuclear weapons enough to obliterate the whole world. If that isn't enough to be scared of, we live on a rapidly spinning ball of molten rock hurtling through a galactic pinball machine.

Why live in fear? We all live on the edge of obliteration every day.

Sure, preparation is different than fear, but is there anything that makes a jihadi scarier than simply living on a giant ball of lava? Nah, life is scary enough. Forget the fools who want to manipulate you by reminding you. Stop inflating criminal sentences against American citizens who cause a panic among the sheep - especially sheep in Boston that freaked out more than nine other cities combined.

This SHOULD be a thread about chicken-littles; INSTEAD, we have "conservatives" screaming for blood. We need to conquer our fear, not punish children for reminding us of how scared we have become.


660 posted on 02/02/2007 4:26:01 AM PST by kaotic133
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