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Slur puts Saban in midst of uproar
Orlando Sentinel ^ | Feb 1. 2007 | Alex Marvez

Posted on 02/01/2007 11:19:21 AM PST by balch3

Profanity and an off-color comment about Cajuns by Nick Saban that he thought would remain private have become public, causing the former Dolphins coach to issue an apology Wednesday through the University of Alabama. During a 40-minute meeting with three South Florida newspaper reporters, including one from the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, on Jan. 4 in Tuscaloosa, Ala., after being named the Crimson Tide's head coach, Saban relayed an anecdote about the reaction to his hiring at Louisiana State University, a Southeastern Conference rival where he coached from 2000 to 2004. Saban told the reporters that "you guys won't be able to print this" before conveying what he said was a telephone call he had received from an unidentified member of LSU's board of trustees. "He was walking down the street yesterday before the Sugar Bowl," Saban said. "He calls me. There was a guy working in the ditch, one of those coon-ass guys that talk funny. I can't talk like them, but he can. Most people in Louisiana can." Continuing his story, Saban then repeated the worker's vulgar comment about him going to Alabama. Saban laughed and then added, "But that's how [LSU fans] are, though. They're passionate, hardcore." Audio of the interview was recently aired on WQAM (560-AM) and subsequently posted on the Internet, which prompted Saban to issue a statement about

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1 posted on 02/01/2007 11:19:25 AM PST by balch3
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To: balch3

The apology is merited because?


2 posted on 02/01/2007 11:22:09 AM PST by Williams
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To: balch3
Audio of the interview was recently aired on WQAM (560-AM) .

BWHAHAHA! That's the Dolphins radio network flagship. The sports fans in South Florida,and QAM especially are out for Saban's head.

3 posted on 02/01/2007 11:22:19 AM PST by zarf
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To: Williams
The apology is merited because?

coon ass?

4 posted on 02/01/2007 11:23:00 AM PST by zarf
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To: zarf

Coon ass = redneck


5 posted on 02/01/2007 11:24:13 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

You have to apologise to rednecks now? A lot of people identify themselves as rednecks.


6 posted on 02/01/2007 11:25:04 AM PST by Williams
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To: balch3
...Saban told the reporters that "you guys won't be able to print this"...

Saban's an idiot for trusting the media.

7 posted on 02/01/2007 11:26:24 AM PST by FReepaholic (If daydreaming were an Olympic sport I'd be a gold medalist.)
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To: balch3
Sort of rude.

But what's vulgar about what he said?
Not acquainted with the term coon-butt--is that the vulgarity mentioned?

8 posted on 02/01/2007 11:27:38 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: Williams

Coon ass is kind of like the N-word. It's ok for Cajuns to use it on each other (I'm a transplanted Cajun) but offensive if someone else does.


9 posted on 02/01/2007 11:27:40 AM PST by Rocky Mountain High
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To: balch3
Seriously... I can't believe this is even a news story. If he were any other schools coach this would be a none issue, IMHO.

While I didn't grow up in LA, I was born there and lived there until I was 4. I've jokingly referred to myself as a CoonAss.

Should I send myself to rehab???

10 posted on 02/01/2007 11:30:24 AM PST by sweet_diane ("They hate us 'cause they ain't us.")
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To: Rocky Mountain High
i toss the work "cracker" around with my friends, but get offended when others call it.

/dripping sarcasm.

11 posted on 02/01/2007 11:33:29 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If voting really changed things, it would be illegal.)
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To: Rocky Mountain High

Gee. Some folks are sensitive. I didn't think the term C-A was limited to Cajuns. I think hubby's cousin married someone they called C-A, and they were from Michigan. (OK. So they were all transplanted rednecks, but they were not from Louisiana.)

Roll Tide!


12 posted on 02/01/2007 11:33:59 AM PST by petitfour
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To: balch3
I live in the Houston area, and the word is fairly often used down here. In fact, I remember seeing a sign for a "Coon-ass Festival" somewhere in town last year.

I would not equate use of the word to that of blacks using the "N" word. Coon-ass is not really related to coon.

13 posted on 02/01/2007 11:34:21 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ("Thanks, Tom DeLay, for practically giving me your seat"-Nick Lampson)
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To: sweet_diane

100% dyed in the wool coonass here. Saban saying coonasses talk funny is merely a statement of fact. Cajun accents are cool most everywhere I have been in this country. I've never taken offence at being called a coonass.


14 posted on 02/01/2007 11:34:49 AM PST by sinclair (When they come down from their Ivory Towers, Idealists are very apt to walk straight into the gutter)
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To: balch3

Guess his next trip to Baton Rougue might be worth watching.


15 posted on 02/01/2007 11:36:51 AM PST by rod1
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To: balch3

I knew a captain whose wife was from Louisiana and he used to call her that. And he eventually made general.


16 posted on 02/01/2007 11:37:39 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: petitfour
I think all this has more to do with where Saban went to coach than what he said.

I just don't think anyone would care had it been Fulmer, Meyer, Tuberville or any other SEC coach.

Goodness...next time I'm referred to as a Bammer I'll just have to get my back up and cause a stink! not

17 posted on 02/01/2007 11:38:04 AM PST by sweet_diane ("They hate us 'cause they ain't us.")
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To: FReepaholic
Saban's an idiot for trusting the media.

Why is it a matter of trust? Saban was such a moron, he knew what he was saying was vulgar but thought he could get away with it because it was too vulgar for the media to quote him on.
18 posted on 02/01/2007 11:38:08 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: balch3

They think Saban was talking about blacks, not Cajuns.


19 posted on 02/01/2007 11:38:21 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: AppyPappy
Coon ass = redneck

Nope. A coon ass is from South Louisiana; a redneck (aka a stump jumper) is from North Louisiana.

20 posted on 02/01/2007 11:39:23 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: sinclair

When I was fueling tow boats in St. Paul, I'd guess 85 percent of the skippers and crew were coonasses...


21 posted on 02/01/2007 11:39:52 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: petitfour

Personally, I don't care, but some people certianly do. When in Rome, ya know?


22 posted on 02/01/2007 11:41:39 AM PST by Rocky Mountain High
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To: balch3
Anyone who sacrifices their dignity by complaining over being called a "name" and demands social justice deserves neither.
23 posted on 02/01/2007 11:42:23 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

I'm from south Louisiana and some folks find the term offensive. Most don't care.


24 posted on 02/01/2007 11:43:42 AM PST by Rocky Mountain High
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Yep, I've been in the business for 35 years.


25 posted on 02/01/2007 11:44:20 AM PST by sinclair (When they come down from their Ivory Towers, Idealists are very apt to walk straight into the gutter)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Besides, the term "redneck" is not used for the entire people group (race); the n-word is. Few would call an American of European descent not from the South a "redneck," much less an immigrant/tourist/etc. from the UK, Germany, and so on. American of African descent from all over the country, and even from other parts of the world, are referred to by some using the n-word. If both are offensive terms, then both shouldn't be used, but one is far more exclusive than the other and is more culturally/ethnically insulting rather than racist per se.


26 posted on 02/01/2007 11:44:24 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: Doomonyou

Sounds lke the uproar over the proper use of the word "niggardly" and it's uneducated response to that use.


27 posted on 02/01/2007 11:46:03 AM PST by Cyman
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To: sweet_diane
Should I send myself to rehab???

No need. The Thought Police will be at your door any moment now.

28 posted on 02/01/2007 11:46:19 AM PST by Ditto
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To: balch3

Now Alabama fans will have something to yell at LSU when they play next fall.


29 posted on 02/01/2007 11:50:19 AM PST by yawningotter
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To: Williams

I know a couple people that consider themselves coon-ass and it certainly isn't a designation they shy away from. good people, and they do talk funny...and we all have a good time with it.


30 posted on 02/01/2007 11:52:54 AM PST by Hornet19 (Be Politically Erect.)
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To: sinclair

I also put fuel on American and Canadian Great Lakes steamships in Duluth/Superior when they stopped for iron ore or grain. Almost all the crews on the Canadian boats were French-speakers from eastern Canada.


31 posted on 02/01/2007 11:55:33 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: balch3

When did "coon-ass cajun" become a bad thing to say? I have friends in Lake Charles, LA who claim that title with more than just a little bit of pride.


32 posted on 02/01/2007 11:59:08 AM PST by Volunteer (Just so you know, I am ashamed the Dixie Chicks make records in Nashville.)
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To: snarks_when_bored

It's still a redneck everywhere outside Louisiana. Ya'll just see it different.


33 posted on 02/01/2007 12:01:05 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: K4Harty
toss the work "cracker" around with my friends, but get offended when others call it. /dripping sarcasm.

Shut-up, Whitey!

/dripping with more sarcasm

34 posted on 02/01/2007 12:01:19 PM PST by Vasilli22 (http://www.richardfest.blogspot.com/)
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To: balch3

Are they saying that coon ass is a dirty word to Cajuns? Have they ever known any 'Cadians? I doubt it.


35 posted on 02/01/2007 12:01:57 PM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: K4Harty

Cracker comes from Gaelic craicer and refers to someone who talks too much.

My dad and his brother still go to the pub every Friday to have a craic.


36 posted on 02/01/2007 12:04:07 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (If you build it, they won't come...)
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To: balch3

FEAR ME!!!1!!

37 posted on 02/01/2007 12:05:32 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (A living insult to islam since 1959)
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To: Williams
Katrina made the Cajuns a protected class.
38 posted on 02/01/2007 12:07:25 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: balch3

Well, after searching online for a minute or two, I think the C-A stuff is just an excuse to get folks to listen to the "funny" Coach Saban told about what one of the LSU trustees said about Saban taking the Bama job. It was the off the record part that Coach Saban didn't want folks to hear, but he was obviously amused by it enough to tell some reporters "off the record."


39 posted on 02/01/2007 12:08:05 PM PST by petitfour
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To: sinclair

I was about to say. That is banted about as high praise in the circles I have been around. About as offensive as saying homeboy in La.


40 posted on 02/01/2007 12:12:35 PM PST by doodad
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To: Williams

Some people love being called a Redneck.

41 posted on 02/01/2007 12:16:46 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: AppyPappy

Rednecks live in N. Louisiana.

Coon Asses live in S. Louisiana.


42 posted on 02/01/2007 12:17:27 PM PST by trumandogz (Rudy G 2008: The "G" Stands For Gun Grabbing & Gay Lovin.)
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To: Cyman
Sounds lke the uproar over the proper use of the word "niggardly" and it's uneducated response to that use.

It also sounds like some overly sensitive bedwetters.

43 posted on 02/01/2007 12:18:21 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: AppyPappy
It's still a redneck everywhere outside Louisiana. Ya'll just see it different.
Mais yeah, we see it different. I gaaa-raun-tee...
44 posted on 02/01/2007 12:38:40 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: StoneWall Brigade; L98Fiero; RFEngineer; DarthDilbert; James Ewell Brown Stuart; Fairview; ...

For the LSU fans.


45 posted on 02/01/2007 12:57:38 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: balch3

What folks seem to be missing in this incident is the fact that Saban told the story "off the record" to three reporters. The fact is that one of these reporters broke this journalistic ethic by making Saban's remarks public. An audio tape of Saban's off the record remarks were e-mailed to another reporter at a south Florida radio station. According to a radio report I heard a few moments ago, the alleged reporter who made Saban's comments public is Jeff Darlington. He has also, reportedly, issued a statement today saying he is sorry. He ought to be fired.

Saban, according to many public accounts, is a very private person and not given to telling jokes or slightly off color stories. Given the south Florida and Miami Dolphin fan bases' uproar of Saban's leaving the Dolphins to take the reins at the University of Alabama, it appears to me to be sour grapes over Miami being jilted by Saban for another, Alabama in this case. There appears to be a continuing effort to bring Saban down.

For the record, I live in Alabama but am not an Alabama fan.


46 posted on 02/01/2007 1:04:18 PM PST by miele man (Continually voting against iodine deficient libs for 42 years)
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To: AppyPappy
Coon-ass has been used by Louisianans for years and its only due to PC that it has become offensive. In fact most Cajuns aren't offended by it and refer to themselves as "coon-asses". Anyone that buys into the PC mentality is a loser and against free speech.
47 posted on 02/01/2007 1:27:42 PM PST by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Thermo-Nuclear Landscapers Inc. "Need a change of scenery? We deliver!")
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To: Vasilli22

ROFL!


48 posted on 02/01/2007 1:42:16 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If voting really changed things, it would be illegal.)
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To: Rocky Mountain High

If I am not mistaken the Louisiana Air National Guard is informally known as the "coon-ass" militia. The first time I heard the term was about 20 years ago. I had a calendar of figher jets, and one photo was of a Louisiana National Guard fighter, maybe an F-4?, with the afterburner going, right around sunset. The caption said something like "One of the Coon-Ass militia steps on the loud pedal" The next time I heard the term was recently, and it explained that it is a Louisiana term for "redneck".


49 posted on 02/01/2007 1:48:24 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: trumandogz

LOL, mai sha! You got dat right!


50 posted on 02/01/2007 1:55:30 PM PST by fishergirl (My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
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