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Global-Warming Report Gets U.S. Emphasis
Wall Street Journal ^ | February 3, 2007 | John J. Fialka

Posted on 02/03/2007 3:12:22 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

WASHINGTON -- U.S. government scientists Friday said the long-term outlook for global warming may be more dire than suggested by this week's United Nations' report, which they say doesn't fully address the impact of clouds and melting glaciers.

Recent evidence of accelerated melting of glaciers in Greenland and the Antarctic ice cap came too late to be included in the report released Thursday by the U.N.-sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Glaciers are among the largest sources of fresh water in the world and are contributing to rising ocean levels. Rising sea levels could expose population centers bordering the ocean to more storm damage and could require evacuation in some areas. But the computer models used for the IPCC report based their predictions only on the results of heating of the existing water in the world's oceans, causing the oceans to expand and sea levels to rise, said Tom Delworth, a climate modeler for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the government agency in charge of climate science and weather service.

The IPCC report predicts sea levels will rise by between one to two feet over the next 100 years. Mr. Delworth said there remains "much more uncertainty" over how much accelerated melting of glaciers might add to that.

A second area of continuing uncertainty has to do with the impact of clouds on climate change. Warming the ocean sends more water vapor into the air, and the resulting clouds accelerate global warming by trapping more of the sun's heat in the atmosphere and further warm the ocean. Jim Butler, deputy director of NOAA's global monitoring division, called this "a very scary feedback mechanism."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerosols; antarctica; climatechange; climatemodels; clouds; doomage; environment; globalwarming; government; greenland; haze; icemelt; ipcc; majordoomage; modelresolution; noaa; particulates; scientist; scientists; sealevelrise; supercomputers; un; unitednations; unitedstates; usa; wearedoomed

1 posted on 02/03/2007 3:12:23 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: cogitator; DaveLoneRanger

U.S. Scientists predict major doomage.


2 posted on 02/03/2007 3:13:02 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Dont overestimate the decency of the human race. H. L. Mencken)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Global warming snowballs.


3 posted on 02/03/2007 3:14:54 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The avalanche of global warming crap just doesn't stop.


4 posted on 02/03/2007 3:15:38 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Recent evidence of accelerated melting of glaciers in Greenland and the Antarctic ice cap came too late to be included in the report released Thursday by the U.N.-sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Funny, the last I heard both glaciers were adding mass. Thats not to say that Global Warming isn't happening because it has been warming for thousands of years, thank goodness. What I am saying is that there is no definitive evidence that AGW can cause anything catastrophic at all.

And fwiw:


5 posted on 02/03/2007 3:16:50 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is there any way of getting some of this global warming over to my locale. We had a 20 day stretch where the temp didn't get above freezing, which is damn unusual for my locale.


6 posted on 02/03/2007 3:16:52 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Follow the money, assign guilt to any politician that latches on, assume guilt and let them prove innocence.

IOW treat them like Republicans

TT
7 posted on 02/03/2007 3:17:01 PM PST by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

We topped out at about 8 degrees today. Now it's getting cold.


8 posted on 02/03/2007 3:18:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

As for me, I scraped a bit of global warming out of my mother's driveway this afternoon.


9 posted on 02/03/2007 3:18:19 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Dont overestimate the decency of the human race. H. L. Mencken)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Here's a photo I took this afternoon, It shows some global warming blowing across the top of the global warming afflicted lake.

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/832/feb07025xp1.jpg


10 posted on 02/03/2007 3:23:17 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The IPCC report predicts sea levels will rise by between one to two feet over the next 100 years.

New Orleans is so screwed.

11 posted on 02/03/2007 3:24:33 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: cripplecreek

MY GOD MAN! Global warming is going to freeze you and your family to death! Only one hope! Move to Antartica, the only place where is really warming......in the selected sections.... that liberal scientist pick .....where the glacers are melting at an alarmingly slow rate! You must move there where its 33 degrees...year round! DON'T ASK ANY QUESTIONS! Just pack up and go......NOW!!!


12 posted on 02/03/2007 3:28:25 PM PST by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: Bommer

The lake held out against global warming since about march of last year. I walked out on it yesterday to take a look and I'm afraid it's terminal. Rigor mortis appears to have set in.


13 posted on 02/03/2007 3:39:02 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: cripplecreek
Nooooo!! Cripple, this global warming is getting bad....real bad, especially by you! Please I urge your to get out as fast as you can before global warming freezes you out! The polar bears are moving out of the Arctic region. Soon condos and casinos will be taking there place in that tropic paradise. The time to stake your glacier claim is now, before the ice flow real estate prices go through the roof!
14 posted on 02/03/2007 4:29:00 PM PST by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Warming the ocean sends more water vapor into the air, and the resulting clouds accelerate global warming

Cloudly days are cooler than sunny days or have I been wrong all these years?


15 posted on 02/03/2007 4:50:23 PM PST by Recon Dad (Marine Spec Ops Dad)
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To: cripplecreek
Here's a photo I took this afternoon, It shows some global warming blowing across the top of the global warming afflicted lake.

Yo! Loved the Global Warming picture enough to make it my wallpaper. Hope that's OK with you.

Professor Algore will probably remind everyone, though, that there's still about 460 degrees F left above absolute zero for all that Global Warming.

16 posted on 02/03/2007 4:55:24 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
These @$$holes tell us that we are all going to die in the next 100, 500, or 1,000 years. They PREDICT all this. Today, the stupid weather channel has changed the 10-day forecast for us THREE TIMES in five hours. They cannot predict 10 days out now, how the hell can they say that they can predict what happens beyond that!!!!!
17 posted on 02/03/2007 4:58:00 PM PST by RetiredArmy (Marxis-Dimocrats stand for everything I hate and wish to see destroyed, including them!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

When liberals get going they can really churn our the prapaganda.
Tons and tons of infor on global warming.
If it doesn't have to be true then there is no end to the fiction that they can spew.


18 posted on 02/03/2007 4:59:24 PM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Glaciers are among the largest sources of fresh water in the world and are contributing to rising ocean levels.

I can think of only one continent where Glaciers are a major source of fresh water, Greenland.

19 posted on 02/03/2007 9:47:31 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: jwalsh07
What I am saying is that there is no definitive evidence that AGW can cause anything catastrophic at all.

What would be definitive? How would you classify the Greenland ice cap melting and causing a 6-meter sea level rise?

BTW, I realized on review that I hadn't answered your Milankovitch cycle question. It's quite complex. Start here:

Glacial/interglacial variations in atmospheric carbon dioxide (PDF)

20 posted on 02/05/2007 8:23:00 AM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator
How would you classify the Greenland ice cap melting and causing a 6-meter sea level rise?

I would classify it as an event with precedence on Earth. You and I are conversing on the internet. Evidently Greenland becoming green again does not preclude that, no?

21 posted on 02/05/2007 2:30:09 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: cogitator

I will wade through your link and see if I can't wrap my blue collar mind around it though. Like I said on the other thread, I don't have much of a horse in the race. I would prefer a nice planet for my progeny but otoh I've never been much for authoritative folks who brook no dissent which is exactly what I see from the AGW crowd.


22 posted on 02/05/2007 2:33:20 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: jwalsh07
I would prefer a nice planet for my progeny

So would I. Rapid climate change threatens that prospect.

23 posted on 02/05/2007 3:49:55 PM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator
So would I. Rapid climate change threatens that prospect.

Yeah and??????????????

Your position is that ACO2 extant in the atmosphere is causing a rapid climate change. Now what?

24 posted on 02/05/2007 4:32:18 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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