Posted on 02/09/2007 11:44:19 AM PST by Froufrou
If the parents hurt the kids, they're child abusers, can have the kids put in foster care and go to jail. If the government hurts the kids.......ummmm.....
I have 10 year old twin daughters, and I am not letting them get the vaccine at this point.
I figure I have until they are about 16 when I really have to start worrying about them and sex. We'll see what's happening with the vaccine at that point, and we'll see what my daughters are like at that point. The nice thing about waiting until they are 16 is that you can realistically talk to them about this subject matter and get their opinion.
Amazing that the same people who want the Government to control what people CAN put their bodies are now getting upset now that the government is telling them what they MUST put in their bodies.
It was. of course. the next logical step.
Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.
And you'd leave that determiination up to the government. In that case, any parent who disagrees is a crackpot.
So, what makes you think you have the right to decide what is a liegitmate religious belief? What makes you so sure you're right? Why should we have to listen to you just because you think so?
You're right, I'm sorry, like I said I'm bad at math and it's pretty late.
It's still assuming that only less than a third of women with HPV will have undiagnosed HPV, which has an average (not always the case, it's just an average) 20 years to develop into cancer.
If there was no other way to prevent cervical cancer and women were dying in mass quantities, it would make sense to make an undertested vaccine mandatory, but that's not the case. There is an easy and healthy way to catch it, treatment for HPV once it's caught is not difficult, and well, there's no point arguing this since we both agree that regular pap smears are a good thing.
Penile cancer rate is low, but anal cancer isn't as low. It doesn't make sense to me to say, "Boys are allowed to risk something this deadly, but girls aren't, because it happens more in girls." If it's a matter of public safety, it wouldn't just protect these boys from something very dangerous, it would greatly reduce the spread of it.
I know two people who think that teenagers should have the right to abort without their parents knowing, but don't think they should have the right to refuse this vaccine because they don't know any better, and neither do their parents.
They know enough to have surgical procedures done, they just don't know enough to refuse to have a substance injected into them.
At least they're consistant in one thing: All parents are idiots and shouldn't be allowed to have any say in the what happens to their daughters.
I'm sorry if I came on strong, I didn't mean to. Like I've said, it's very late, and this vaccine scares me because it is undertested and I'm afraid for girls that something very, very bad will happen to them without their consent.
It was a pleasure talking with you.
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The hypocrisy is staggering.
Don't you mean prudish and pro-cancer knuckle dragging Neanderthals?
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*sigh* My mistake.
I am not a religious anti-vaccination person. I don't believe a girl having this vaccine or not will be a factor as to whether has sex. I sincerely doubt my daughter will be pure as the driven snow on her wedding night and would never think her husband would be. I have raised that point on other threads.
I have a problem with politicians that, let's face it, will ALL have to be screwed into the ground when they die because they are ALL so crooked. According to research being thrown out by the drug company, 80% of women have this virus. Let's say for the sake of argument there are 100,000,000 sexually active women in this country. That means that 80,000,000 have this virus or have had it (it is proved that most (90%?) women's bodies fight it on their own successfully) and 3,900 women died from it last year. Work out the percentage of that and get back to me as to why the government is mandating this vaccination on my daughter. They are mandating an unnecessary vaccine for a virus that can easily be tested for during a yearly pelvic exam and pap smear and treated in a half hour appointment. That is according to the CDC! Politicians feel good when they say it is an anti cancer vaccine, I mean really, who isn't against cancer. But don't force an injection on me or my daughter because some women are too stupid to go to the doctor once a year or two.
Insert joke about boys and their Playboy magazine and Victoria's Secret Catalog here...
Thanks for the autism ping.
For me, that statement is BS. I didn't get my kids the chickenpox and Hep B vaccines for all the same reasons that I don't want my daughter to get this one right now.
My mom was sterilized by the Dalkon Shield. My friend flipped out on Prozac and dumped her kids at a homeless shelter one morning.
"They" say a lot of things are safe. Then the product hits the masses and side effects that weren't apparent in the controlled trials float to the surface.
My daughter already has arthritis from Valley Fever and Lyme Disease. There's no way I'm exposing her anything that might make her condition worse. If, in ten years or so, she chooses to get the vaccine, I'll support her. Heck, my kids are in the process of getting the Hep B right now. Enough time has passed without a disaster that I'm comfortable with it.
I don't put my kids on the front lines. I'm a mom. It's my job to be cautious and skeptical.
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