Minutemen Go Inside Latino Immigration Meeting-Racism Espoused, Calls for Violence Against "Whites"

minutemanproject ^ | 2/16/2007 | Linda Muller

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

And there are fringe groups of those of European descent who advocate violence toward those of non-European descent. What's your point (rhetorical)?

[junta]

Double standards

[Chode]

Aztlan my aching azz... what did the INDIANS, THEY STOLE IT FROM, call it???

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

This just gives more support for: an Enlarged United States of America.

If they are pushing for a Reconquista (which most definitely does NOT seem to be the mainstream view of Latinos in the country), then taking over Mexico and making it all a part of the country could remove their base (they could still try some separatist thing--ala ETA and the Basque country, but it would be more difficult). Plus, Mexico has a warm climate, enticing Americans to emigrate to the former Mexico (at least once infrastructure, such as water sanitation plants that produce safer water, is put in place).

[ckilmer]

Its best to have a demographic look at the USA

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Regards,

C

[ckilmer]

The press secretary for the California Republican Party is the son of illegal aliens who came the USA 35 years ago. In this article he chronicles how in recent years there has been a massive change in the number and kind of illegals coming north. Including a crimnal element that is causing a deterioration in the quality of life of Americans. Consider this article Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan

People have been referring to the Captains Quarters as a rebuke to the assertions of the article. The Captain's Quarters makes the assertion that -- for the numbers to be true -- it would have to be the case that a small number of people were committing a lot of crimes. That is to say far outside the statistical norm for the USA. The problem is that he didn't actually check the federal stats. As it happens it is the case that illegals tend to be very repeat offenders.

Below are some government stats to back up the article's assertioms

From the FBI crime statistics * An estimated 16,692 persons were murdered nationwide in 2005, an increase of 3.4 percent from the 2004 figure. * Murder comprised 1.2 percent of the overall estimated number of violent crimes in 2005. (Based on Table 1.) * There were an estimated 5.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants.

Illegal Alien Crime Wave

On April 7, 2005, the US Justice Department issued a report on criminal aliens that were incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails. In the population study of 55,322 illegal aliens, researchers found that they were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent (about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after 1990. They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. One arrest incident may include multiple offenses, a fact that explains why there are nearly one and half times more offenses than arrests. Almost all of these illegal aliens were arrested for more than 1 offense. Slightly more than half of the 55,322 illegal aliens had between 2 and 10 offenses.

CRIMINAL HISTORY

More than two-thirds of the defendants charged with an immigration offense were identified as having been previously arrested. Thirty-six percent had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions; 22%, 2 to 4 times; and 12%,1 time. Sixty-one percent of those defendants had been convicted at least once; 18%, 5 or more times; 26%, 2 to 4 times; and 17%, 1 time. Of those charged, 49% had previously been convicted of a felony: 20% of a drug offense; 18%, a violent offense; and 11%, other felony offenses. Twelve percent had previously been convicted of a misdemeanor. Defendants charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. Nine in ten had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, half had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions. Fifty-six percent of those charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted of a violent or drug-related felony. By contrast, under half of those charged with alien smuggling, a third of those charged with unlawful entry, and just over a quarter those charged with misuse of visas and other charges had previously been arrested. The criminal histories of these defendants were generally less extensive: more than 70% had been previously arrested fewer than 5 times. Sources: US Department of Homeland Security, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, National Security Institute, National Association of Chiefs of Police, US Department of Justice

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Bump, if you are referring to how the Nahuatl (that could have been misspelled, the progenitors of the Aztecs) emigrated only recently from what is now the southwestern United States to what is now Mexico and displaced some of the peoples there before them.

The displacement of previous peoples is not something new. The Bible mentions several such things. Germanic peoples displaced many Celts in the British Islands into Wales and Scotland, and became the ruling elites in several other countries where they were numerically too small to displace the local populace (Franks in France to the Gauls, Visigoths in Iberia, Ostrogoths in Italy--and for a non-Germanic/non-Europe one, Mexico again, with a relatively small Spanish elite ruling over a largely Amerindian or mestizo population, even today).

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

Indeed, there are drug dealers, smugglers, and other unsavory people coming up across the southern border, but few are actively trying to return much of the western part of the country to Mexico.

[Anti-Bubba182]

Did they get any of this on tape?

[3AngelaD]

"...Victor said he had just gotten back from Washington, DC. He said the Mexican congress members, who were recently in Washington, were not treated right...Most of all, he said Latinos are disturbed that the new Democratic congress is focusing on Iraq rather than immigration reform and this had better change." Oh dear. Mexican Congress members weren't treated right. What, the Dems who met with them neglected to kiss both of their feet? On the day that Pelosi's plane was the lead story? Congress focusing on the war that we are engaged in is a bad thing? What a bunch of perdadores.

[3AngelaD]

Yes, the Aztecs moved in on the poor indigenous local tribes at Lake Texcoco and did some extradorinarly nasty things to them, like recruit their leader's daughter to marry their chief, and instead lead her to their temple and cut out her still beating heart, along with general treachery and slaughter. These idiots forget what they were doing to each other before Europeans arrived. Curiously, there is only one North American indigenous language group that tracks with the language spoken by the first Aztecs, and that is the language spoken by the Utes of Western Colorado and Utah.

[William Terrell]

Those "fringe groups of those of European descent" are in their own country. The Mexican invaders are not.

[achilles2000]

North of central Mexico, the land was largely uninhabited because stone age people could not survive in numbers in a hostile environment. The rampant cannibalism of the tribes was one indication of how precarious their existence was. The amount of land used and controlled by the handful of indians was miniscule. Bear in mind, th eaboriginal inhabitants of the Americas had not invented the wheel and didn't have horses.

[Chode]

it's all nothing but spanish conquest to me... they took it from somebody else and we took it from them.

you can take anything you want in this world, the question is... are you strong enough to keep it???

[quadrant]

That's all North America needs: Mexico and Aztlan, two misgoverned Hispanic nations.

[stephenjohnbanker]

If we don't stop illegals, and deport them, we are in for hell!

[TBP]

Unfortunately, this is typical of the left.

[skeeter]

And there are fringe groups of those of European descent who advocate violence toward those of non-European descent. What's your point (rhetorical)?

Maybe his point is the governmental attitudes towards 'European fringe groups' and groups like La Raza isn't exactly even handed. Multi million dollar philanthropic organizations across the country fund 'non-European' fringe groups, but I'm reasonably certain the FOrd Foundation has never provided a grant to Aryan Brotherhood.

[ckilmer]

Excerpted from

January 15, 2007 Issue
Copyright © 2007 The American Conservative

Fragmented Future

Multiculturalism doesn’t make vibrant communities but defensive ones.

In America, you don’t need to belong to a family-based mafia for protection because the state will enforce your contracts with some degree of equality before the law. In Mexico, though, as former New York Times correspondent Alan Riding wrote in his 1984 bestseller Distant Neighbors: A Portrait of the Mexicans, “Public life could be defined as the abuse of power to achieve wealth and the abuse of wealth to achieve power.” Anyone outside the extended family is assumed to have predatory intentions, which explains the famous warmth and solidarity of Mexican families. “Mexicans need few friends,” Riding observed, “because they have many relatives.”

Mexico is a notoriously low-trust culture and a notoriously unequal one. The great traveler Alexander von Humboldt observed two centuries ago, in words that are arguably still true, “Mexico is the country of inequality. Perhaps nowhere in the world is there a more horrendous distribution of wealth, civilization, cultivation of land, and population.” Jorge G. Castañeda, Vicente Fox’s first foreign minister, noted the ethnic substratum of Mexico’s disparities in 1995:

The business or intellectual elites of the nation tend to be white (there are still exceptions, but they are becoming more scarce with the years). By the 1980s, Mexico was once again a country of three nations: the criollo minority of elites and the upper-middle class, living in style and affluence; the huge, poor, mestizo majority; and the utterly destitute minority of what in colonial times was called the Republic of Indians…

Castañeda pointed out, “These divisions partly explain why Mexico is as violent and unruly, as surprising and unfathomable as it has always prided itself on being. The pervasiveness of the violence was obfuscated for years by the fact that much of it was generally directed by the state and the elites against society and the masses, not the other way around. The current rash of violence by society against the state and elites is simply a retargeting.”

These deep-rooted Mexican attitudes largely account for why, in Putnam’s “Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey,” Los Angeles ended up looking a lot like it did in the Oscar-winning movie “Crash.” I once asked a Hollywood agent why there are so many brother acts among filmmakers these days, such as the Coens, Wachowskis, Farrellys, and Wayans. “Who else can you trust?” he shrugged.