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9/11 questions [BBC Joins Tinfoil "Truthers"]
BBC ^ | Feb. 14, 2007 | Mike Rudin

Posted on 02/16/2007 8:18:54 AM PST by Alouette

Lots of questions have been raised about 9/11:

Why was the hole in the Pentagon wall so small and why was there so little damage to the outer wall?

Why does it look like there is no plane at the crash site in Pennsylvania where flight United 93 came down?

Why did a building called World Trade Centre Building 7 collapse even though it was never hit by an aircraft?

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; bbc; conspiracy; really
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To: atomicpossum
I assume he is referring to the brilliant minds of the 'Truther' movement.

Indeed I was. And apparently one of these brilliant minds is now masquerading as a FReeper.

41 posted on 02/16/2007 8:59:18 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Calpernia
Did you watch the video?

Yes? And?

I'm not sure what this is in reponse to.

Or course not.

WTC7 was coming down on it's own. No intervention needed. Also, the trick to demolition isn't "pulling" a building down, using explosives to "create a vacuum to pull it down" as that one commentator on youtube mentioned...

Buildings are designed so that they resist the force of gravity to collapse them. They can be considered to be in a state of "arrested collapse". The trick is to remove the counter forces keeping it up. Let gravity do the rest. Anyone who's done even a cursory study of it would know this.

Conspiracies can be fun. This wasn't one.

42 posted on 02/16/2007 8:59:48 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: wideawake

This is not a spliced video. It is an excerpt of a documentary that was on T.V. before it was posted at YouTube.

He was speaking directly to the firemen when he said pull it.

They even used that term in the beginning of the excerpt to have WTC6 pulled.


43 posted on 02/16/2007 9:01:15 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Dead Corpse
Did you watch the video?

Yes? And?
------------------------------------------------

You said in your post pull it was directed at the firemen. It was not.

I still have no idea what the rest of your post is in reference to.

44 posted on 02/16/2007 9:03:13 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Alouette


"We told them the truth. But one fourth of Americans are retards."

-George Bush, 'South Park'


45 posted on 02/16/2007 9:03:21 AM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Calpernia
This is not a spliced video.

Then you don't know what splicing is.

If you are maintaining that this video is one, continuous unbroken shot and not cut or spliced in any way, then I'm not sure where to start.

Do you know what a camera is, and how it works?

He was speaking directly to the firemen when he said pull it.

So you are claiming that the FDNY does private demolition work for a living instead of what all the rest of us thought they did: i.e. fighting fires?

They even used that term in the beginning of the excerpt to have WTC6 pulled.

You keep using the word "pulled" as if we agreed on its meaning in this context. Hint: we do not.

I am employing "pulled" in its common English acceptation and you are employing it in the parallel "Truther" fantasy meaning.

You can't prove you're not mistaken by simply repeating your mistake.

46 posted on 02/16/2007 9:08:08 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
Here's a very entertaining *and very profane* trashing of the 9-11 Conspiracy Scum by none other than Penn and Teller.

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/186504.php

Our local FM talk station played a lot of this heavily bleeped the other day...Frankly, it's a savaging that these neo-Holocaust Deniers deserve to receive more often.

47 posted on 02/16/2007 9:09:26 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: wideawake

"Crackpot garbage."

Yep, and it only reinforces my view that the world has become a soap-box for reckless statements, idiotic postion-taking, or outward flat out lying. Why? Because it gets played in the printed press and on tv. and no one seems to ever have to answer for it.


48 posted on 02/16/2007 9:10:25 AM PST by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: Alouette
BBC Joins Tinfoil "Truthers"

BBC joins Tinfoil group?
BBC IS the Tinfoil hat headquarters.
No outfit on the planet has more America-hating nut cases than the BBC does.
It's merely business as usual.
Nothing to see here, move long.
49 posted on 02/16/2007 9:10:49 AM PST by ShawTaylor
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To: Calpernia; Dead Corpse
Calpernia in post 43:

He was speaking directly to the firemen when he said pull it.

Calpernia, one post and 118 seconds later:

You said in your post pull it was directed at the firemen. It was not.

One post you're telling me the hardhats are firefighters and the next post you're telling DC they're not.

Make up your mind and get back to us.

50 posted on 02/16/2007 9:12:22 AM PST by wideawake
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To: atomicpossum
Frankly, it's a savaging that these neo-Holocaust Deniers deserve to receive more often.

Bump to the nth power.

51 posted on 02/16/2007 9:14:04 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Calpernia

Is Calpernia your DUmmy id as well?


52 posted on 02/16/2007 9:14:53 AM PST by petercooper ("Daisy-cutters trump a wiretap anytime." - Nicole Gelinas - 02-10-04)
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To: wideawake

I see you twisting a lot of what I said. Why?

The YouTube link if excerpts from:

2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds'

I will transcribe:


"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."


53 posted on 02/16/2007 9:15:18 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: petercooper

Yeah. Go over to DU and stay there until you find me.


54 posted on 02/16/2007 9:17:23 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds'

Larry Silverstein, the controller of the destroyed WTC complex, stated plainly in a PBS documentary that he and the FDNY decided jointly to demolish WTC 7

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

55 posted on 02/16/2007 9:21:31 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
I see you twisting a lot of what I said.

As post 50 demonstrates, you have no clue what you are saying and are completely self-contradictory.

You can't twist a mudpuddle.

"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.'

And the FDNY pulled the fire detail rather than keep trying to contain the fire.

And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

And the detail was pulled, no one was containing the fire, and the fire made the building collapse.

How moronic losers twist those simple words into a fantasy scenario where the FDNY had secretly planted explosives in the building and were awaiting a signal from the property owner to demolish it is beyond me.

56 posted on 02/16/2007 9:22:08 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Calpernia
"Pull it"

It=the Brigade of firefighters inside the building.

57 posted on 02/16/2007 9:22:39 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Calpernia
"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it (THE FIRE CREW) .' And they made that decision to pull (THE FIRE CREW) and we watched the building collapse."

Unless you're saying that the FDNY was in on it...if so, why did they lose so many people, to try to make BusHitlerCo's lies look convincing?

58 posted on 02/16/2007 9:27:52 AM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: Alouette
These people lose all credibility when they talk about the Pentagon.

The Pentagon is a HUGE building. The hole made by Flight 77 looks rather small, but only because the building is so enormous. I drove by that side of the Pentagon to work every day for 9 years. It's a very solid building, too. Most of the side that was hit by the plane had just been renovated, with blast - proof windows and extra insulation installed, otherwise the damage would have been much worse.

I personally know two people who watched the plane fly into the building, one from her car and one from her apartment. I also know a woman who was an Arlington County EMT on the scene and found parts of the plane. I smelled the jet fuel burning as I drove home from DC on Sept. 11. I also am friends with the president of the Pentagon Memorial Fund, who has spent countless hours debunking these "truthers." I have seen the photos of the dead passengers found inside the rubble of the building, still strapped in their seats.

59 posted on 02/16/2007 9:27:54 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (Thanks anyway, Nancy, but we already have a Commander-in-Chief!)
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To: Alouette
Jihadists love retards!
60 posted on 02/16/2007 9:29:22 AM PST by roses of sharon
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