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National ID a precursor of things to come
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Posted on 02/20/2007 6:42:33 PM PST by paladinkc

Something I came across on the radio quite by accident, I don't know if any of you have done any digging on this but definately a check on this.

The REAL ID Act of 2005 is Division B of an act of the United States Congress entitled Emergency Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief, 2005, Pub. L. No. 109-13, 119 Stat. 231 (May 11, 2005)[1]. This legislation is intended to deter terrorism by:

Establishing the national standards for state-issued driver's licenses and non-driver's identification cards;


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Waiving laws that interfere with construction of physical barriers at the borders; Updating and tightening the laws on application for asylum and deportation of aliens for terrorist activity; Introducing rules covering "delivery bonds" (rather like bail bonds, but for aliens that have been released pending hearings); Funding some reports and pilot projects related to border security; and Changing visa limits for temporary workers, nurses, and Australians.

see the rest at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act_of_2005

http://nonationalid.com/

1 posted on 02/20/2007 6:42:35 PM PST by paladinkc
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To: paladinkc

Precursor to : Mark of the Beast on hand or forehead.


2 posted on 02/20/2007 6:45:33 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: paladinkc
Nanu Nanu.

Connecting the 50 separate (but compatible) state driver license systems is hardly the coming of the terminator.

Get a grip...
3 posted on 02/20/2007 6:45:44 PM PST by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: paladinkc

Yep get ready to stand in line to get your new drivers license that is compatible with the law.... Expect lines out the doors, around the corner and down the street.


4 posted on 02/20/2007 6:47:29 PM PST by deport ( Cue Spooky Music...)
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To: timer

Bar Code.


5 posted on 02/20/2007 6:52:47 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: paladinkc

If you ever applauded the Patriot Act, then consider yourself burned by your "applause".

I come from a land with national ID, and so far the Antichrist is not in charge over there, although some lefties think so.


6 posted on 02/20/2007 6:55:11 PM PST by El Conservador ("The world needs to be reminded that all human ills are not curable by legislation" - Warren Harding)
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Of course we have to have national ID. How else are we going to tell who an illegal alien is?

Papers please....

7 posted on 02/20/2007 6:56:08 PM PST by narby
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To: FreedomNeocon

"Paperien, bitte" (papers, please) not long ago was a keyword for the worst of government oppression - all movement & activity, even existence, hinged on one having the correct ID and permission papers on demand. It was a hallmark of Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, and a host of other oppressive governments.

Now the "driver's license" is being turned de-facto into the same thing. No longer being just to indicate one's license to drive a motor vehicle, it is becoming THE national ID. If you can't show your "driver's license" (to wit: National ID card), you will increasingly be unable to function in society far beyond anything having to do with vehicular transport.

It's not about licensing drivers anymore. It's about bureaucrats & police being able to pull all your data on demand, to the point that if you don't show one on demand they'll stick you in a box until one can be created.

So much for the 4th Amendment.


8 posted on 02/20/2007 7:09:43 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: ctdonath2

Papiere, bitte. Not Paperien.


9 posted on 02/20/2007 7:13:27 PM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: paladinkc

Your papers please....

Welcome to pre WWII Germany.


10 posted on 02/20/2007 7:16:01 PM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Are those coyotes I hear, or is Hillary singing again?)
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To: narby
Of course we have to have national ID. How else are we going to tell who an illegal alien is?

They're the ones that don't need papers.

11 posted on 02/20/2007 7:17:22 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: ctdonath2
Oh puhlease...

Sorry, but you sound like a 'hippie' to me with your 'how it should be' painting.

So you need an id that can be shared between states and its a HUGE deal because someone can abuse that?

National ID is just doing to driver's licenses (which ARE already used as a national ID!) what has been done in every other sector since 1970.

If that scares you, then sorry about that grandpa... but again... grow up.

Again... group up.
12 posted on 02/20/2007 7:36:26 PM PST by FreedomNeocon (Success is not final; Failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts -- Churchill)
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To: deport

But it don't have to be that way. Most Americans have been driving for years with their state license. That alone should be proof of citizenship. Credit check, High school records would add proof, and a phone call will get that for them. Now if they want DNA and blood type and whole body scan that's a different matter.


13 posted on 02/20/2007 8:26:21 PM PST by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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I already have one, its called a class A commercial driver license (CDL), good in 50 states by repricosity agreement. Other licenses do not guarantee identity to law enforcement and in some cases they will not accept a signature in lieu of bail as a promise to appear as they do with the CDL

I hope this uniform code proposal will be able to stop california from its present practice of issuing drivers licenses to resident illegal aliens who present various and sundrie forms of very questionable "documentation". The present system allows aliens to evade prosecution and change identities faster than a Chamelion changes color

14 posted on 02/20/2007 8:27:30 PM PST by KTM rider ( " US politics is like a stand up comedy show, the tragedy is,.....it's real ")
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To: paladinkc

Whats the matter with the passport?


15 posted on 02/20/2007 8:31:36 PM PST by Conservative4Ever
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Yeah, this is total horse crap. States rights are almost non-existant now. Being a conservative, pro States Rights, this National ID is sickening.

Social Security wasn't intended to be a National ID, but it became one. Passports are considered a National ID, but somehow that's not good enough. I guess all of those were forged by illegals. Somehow, the new National ID won't be reproducable like it's predecessor's, LOL yeah right. PAPERS PLEASE!!!


16 posted on 02/20/2007 9:08:12 PM PST by TheLebowskiDude
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Here, go here: Free Republic - Real ID

Free Republic, Ron Paul, Posted on 05/10/2005 6:44:52 AM PDT by holymoly

17 posted on 02/20/2007 9:24:50 PM PST by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Yup, they'll try it thru "terrorism" or food supplies, or medical services. The old freedom vs security argument. This is why we have a CONSTITUTION and GWB appointing guys like Roberts and Alito to the supreme court. It also helps to rid the federal bench of liberals.

The TECHNOLOGY for a POLICE STATE is already here. Thus the unholy alliance of UN types, eco-marxists, demonrats, control freaks of one kind or another; are doing all they can to get you "bar-coded". Either GUARD your freedoms, or lose them. Evil prospers when good men do nothing...


18 posted on 02/20/2007 9:30:34 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: timer
Google:   n/0=n=nx0
19 posted on 02/20/2007 10:03:18 PM PST by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF)
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To: paladinkc

Revelation chapt 13

15He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.


20 posted on 02/20/2007 10:04:02 PM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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