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Sick of Mexicans Taking our Jobs
Nelliemae

Posted on 02/21/2007 5:53:58 PM PST by NellieMae

I am getting really sick of the Mexican Invasion costing so many jobs in the Southwest Virginia- East Tennessee area. My husband is a brickmason. He is the 5th generation mason in his family- our son is the 6th. Up until just a couple of years ago brickmasons had contractors ringing their phones off of the wall wanting them to do work for them. My husband had to turn down dozens of callers because he couldn't do it all. Things have sure changed . Now, a lot of contractors in this area have gotten dollar signs in their eyes and all that they can see are cheap Mexican workers. My husband has actually had a contractor (real builders that know how to actually build a house are really scarce around here anymore) pull Mexicans on the job that he was working on because he was in such a hurry to get it finished that he couldn't wait the 2 weeks that it would have taken to do the whole job. They will pull in a huge crew and wipe the job out real quick. They waste a lot of brick though (they get paid by the 1000 brick). My husband is a very good, fast mason. His speed and quality is not the issue here. Most of these workers cannot even speak English. It is really aggravating to have lived in a place your entire life and have your livlihood seriously threatened by people that are not supposed to be here in the first place. How do we get rid of this problem? Also, on another related note: It was announced today that there are hundreds of jobs being cut in ANOTHER local factory, Bristol Compressors. I was told several months ago that a construction site in Mexico was marked with a sign that read:" Future site of Bristol Compressors" Is this a coincidence or is there another company by the name of Bristol Compressors?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
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To: Jim Robinson; r9etb
No, but it declares the causes of why we broke bonds with the prior government, the reasons for our new government, what it's based on, what kind of government we are rightfully entitled to, who created it, who empowered, and consented to it, the conditions for its abolishment, AND exactly who has the sovereign right and power to abolish it and start over if need be.

And the Constitution clearly states FROM THE FIRST SENTENCE ONWARD that it is "WE THE PEOPLE" who grant powers to the government and that clearly means that WE THE PEOPLE can choose to rescind these powers in the manner put forward (a constitutional convention).

Unfortunately, with only a handful of exceptions, our elected representatives have been totally ignorant to this fact for about two hundred years.

501 posted on 02/23/2007 4:36:30 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: DCPatriot
Took the words right out of my fingers.

Let her husband be a general contractor and find work to support a couple of crews.

Hire anyone with a tax ID number.

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Says the guy who hires illegals to run his little business.

502 posted on 02/23/2007 5:18:55 AM PST by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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To: webstersII

Yepp...homeowner.


503 posted on 02/23/2007 7:12:21 AM PST by QQQQ
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To: wagglebee; Jim Robinson
And the Constitution clearly states FROM THE FIRST SENTENCE ONWARD that it is "WE THE PEOPLE" who grant powers to the government and that clearly means that WE THE PEOPLE can choose to rescind these powers in the manner put forward (a constitutional convention).

Which is the long way around to saying, "Consent of the governed."

To put this in context, it's important to recall that this particular conversation started over this particular claim: "We are the true government, according to our founding documents."

While I fully agree with the idea that legitimate government operates only with the "consent of the governed," it is simply not true that "we are the true government." That would be democracy -- and we are a republic.

"Consent of the governed" means, explicitly, that we are the ones who are governed; and the Constitution defines the three branches which form the government.

It also means that once the government acts outside of the bounds of consent, that "We the People" are empowered to reign it in.

It's almost pedantic to draw this out for you and Jim, but the meaning and boundaries of "Consent of the Governed" is nevertheless the crucial point in this whole debate.

For example, there is probably never unanimous agreement on any government action. Short of perpetual stalemate, how is "Consent of the Governed" actually defined, as a practical concept?

There's really only one way: local politics define "local consent" by majority vote; and national consensus is defined by the accumulation of local results. The Democrats have the majority in both houses because they won more local races -- and thus they currently hold, in some sense, the imprimatur of "consent."

There's more, though: even at the local level it's almost never true that "consent" boils down to a single issue like immigration. It's usually a trade-off between a bunch of disparate issues. With the current Congress, "consent" on immigration is mixed in with "consent" for the war in Iraq, and "withdrawal of consent" from Republicans, and so on. It's a mixed bag, in other words.

In terms of illegal immigration, I think there is a broad consensus that it needs to be dealt with .... somehow. But there are a lot of different ways to deal with it, and the "consent of the governed" is scattered all over the map.

The truth is that people on this and similar threads are thrashing around about wanting the "consent of the governed" to rest with their particular solution.

Well, there might actually be a solution that a "majority of majorities" can accept -- imperfect, perhaps, but much better than what we have now. The way to achieve that national consensus is through the political process. If various FReepers want their solution to be THE solution, they've got to work for it.

But that solution will require acknowledgement of the facts of the problem. And it also demands a style of debate that doesn't sound like the end of a 6-day drunk -- something that more than a few FReepers seem unable to achieve.

504 posted on 02/23/2007 7:24:54 AM PST by r9etb
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To: ladyjane

California has been dealing with this for like 40 years. You cannot find gardeners, or any construction workers that are NOT illegal alien stolen.


505 posted on 02/23/2007 8:48:06 PM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: sten

Garbage. Be a man. Stop being a little girl.


506 posted on 02/24/2007 12:21:52 AM PST by Porterville (Bullies love Peace and the Peaceful fight Wars.)
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To: NellieMae
You are not the only one. My wife and I voted for him twice. The second time I knew what I was getting but my wife has not gotten over his major problems...one of which is the border and the ramifications for us all.

IMHO, The illegals that are moving into America are majority socialists. Eventually they are going to be able to vote. Either the courts will find a here to fore overlooked right for illegals to vote in our Constitution or our state representatives will give them the sufferage. Heck that Afrocentric neo-communist Brooklyn council member already wants to give them the right to vote. This is a silent revolution taking place right now. And our society is so fragmented, distracted, or ignorant. Good luck. FWIW you are not alone.
507 posted on 02/24/2007 10:22:43 AM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Nuc1
MHO, The illegals that are moving into America are majority socialists. Eventually they are going to be able to vote. Either the courts will find a here to fore overlooked right for illegals to vote in our Constitution or our state representatives will give them the sufferage.

You are right about that! Not to mention our own is once again lying to us and I guess we like it.

In 65 Ted Kennedy and yes Republicans too assured us that:

"[O]ur cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same...Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset...Contrary to the charges of some quarters, S. 500 will not inundate America with immigrants from any other country or area, or the most populated and economically deprived nations of Africa and Asia..."

In 1986 Conservatives compromised because we were assured that border security and illegal immigration would be taken care of. Our borders secured and immigration laws enforced.

Here we are again. Gee wonder what our politicans will do?

They lied in 65, They lied in 86 and in 2007 they... Hopefully they will at least kiss me while they are doing it.

508 posted on 02/24/2007 2:18:14 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: SomeoneNeedsToSayIt
Hardly next. What are you going to do when some other third worlders takes over your new job?

The issue has nothing to do with a company bailing out on you to hire people half way around the world to do your job. As immoral and unjust as that is it is still legal. Though it should not be. The issue here is government sanctioned illegal activity that is creating an underclass, virtual slaves, to do work in America at below minimum wage. All the while telling the people they care about their future.

Where do you think this will end? Assuming the socialists don't take over and ruin the world completely, before all the working folks are forced to labor for third world wages. This is not competition. This is a country being sold down the river.

But no matter what you think, you and others should spare the lady your meanness.
509 posted on 02/24/2007 5:26:41 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Altura Ct.
There will be no kisses for anyone. Just more knives in the back. And when the time comes jack boots that will stomp us all into submission.

I think the armed forces are the only chance the Republic has. The corruption in DC and in local governments appears beyond redemption. At least by mankind.
511 posted on 02/24/2007 6:26:13 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: SomeoneNeedsToSayIt

With your stringent purchasing criteria, you can rest assured that everything you buy is going to be cheap.


512 posted on 02/24/2007 7:11:57 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: Porterville
spoken like a true moron. econ 101... supply and demand... it applies to labor as much as goods. your kid will have to compete against people that get free education, thereby being able to undercut that starting salary. your kid won't get that first job coming out of college, passed over for the other kid from India only asking $15k/yr... and that's only if they are working in the US... cheaper if they are overseas.

don't think so? you don't have to wait 20 years to find out. look at the people today trying to get into the IT field with no experience. those jobs ship offshore now. i know, because that is what i do. i pay $500/mon for mid level help. $1500 for seniors. i have heard morons like you berate people like me when we blew the whistle... saying we should learn to compete. well, we did... and we won't be hiring your kids in the future.

suck it up, and enjoy your paper hat.

513 posted on 02/25/2007 1:00:04 PM PST by sten
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To: sten

loser cry baby.


514 posted on 02/26/2007 5:12:26 PM PST by Porterville (Bullies love Peace and the Peaceful fight Wars.)
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To: Porterville

name calling? lol. you sure you aren't a liberal?


515 posted on 02/28/2007 5:49:12 PM PST by sten
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To: JayNorth
I walked to the post office just after we bought our new house. The brand new sidewalks are third-world quality. Uneven, poorly finished, quite clearly done by someone with no concrete skills whatsoever. We have truly sold our souls to the devil on this immigration mess.

Bet it matches the goods at WalMart. You know that excellent example of capitalism. Are we really about cheap?

516 posted on 02/28/2007 6:08:34 PM PST by Snoopers-868th
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To: NellieMae
...but they're just coming here to work...
 

517 posted on 03/01/2007 3:38:21 PM PST by Dr. Marten (Bush Immigration Policy: No Illegal Alien Left Behind! (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: Dr. Marten

Thanks for the link. This is getting a little scary.


518 posted on 03/02/2007 8:44:48 PM PST by NellieMae
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To: NellieMae

please spread the word.


519 posted on 03/02/2007 8:59:30 PM PST by Dr. Marten (Bush Immigration Policy: No Illegal Alien Left Behind! (http://thehorsesmouth.blog-city.com))
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To: sten

Little welfare girl competing with illegal aliens? You expect me to give a damn about you?


520 posted on 03/02/2007 9:11:16 PM PST by Porterville (Bullies love Peace and the Peaceful fight Wars.)
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