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Computer Purchase Reveals Website Confusion (Hi-tech bait and switch at Best Buy.)
The Hartford Courant ^ | February 9 2007 | George Gombossy

Posted on 03/03/2007 12:26:54 PM PST by quidnunc

Like most smart shoppers, Eric Hammer had done his homework and was convinced he'd found the best deal he could get on the laptop computer he was buying for his father's 82nd birthday present.

That was before the East Hartford teacher made a couple trips to Best Buy stores in West Hartford and Newington, and found that a price on the company's Internet site is not always what it seems. At least not to Best Buy sales staff.

Hammer, 47, who lives in Torrington, and his wife had found a great deal on a Toshiba on the bestbuy.com website. The mega-national electronic store was giving $150 off the computer, which on bestbuy.com said was normally selling for $879.99.

But when Hammer went to the Best Buy store in West Hartford on January 11th 2007 the salesman told him that the Best Buy sale was over. The Best Buy salesman even showed him on his Best Buy store computer that the price was now $879.99.

"I said `God, you are right,'" Hammer recalled. Hammer then drove to Newington hoping to find a deal on the computer at Circuit City. No deals, but while playing on the computers he decided to check bestbuy.com and discovered that the sale at Best Buy was still on.

Now he was thoroughly confused. Hammer went to the nearby Best Buy and asked a salesman to give him a price on the computer — $879.99, he was told.

Hammer said he started to argue with the Best Buy salesman, who attempted to prove his point by logging on to an internal Best Buy computer that had a giant monitor to show that there was no longer a sale.

"I am not saying that you are wrong," Hammer said the salesman told him. "I just don't see that price here at Best Buy."

By then Hammer had had enough and asked that he be permitted to navigate the Best Buy computer. Hammer went directly to bestbuy.com and lo and behold, it showed that a sale was still on. The manager, Hammer said, shrugged and told the salesman to give Hammer the sale Best Buy price.

The salesman had no explanation and unfortunately he didn't have that computer in stock at Best Buy. West Hartford, he said, had five.

Hammer got a printout of the sale and drove back to West Hartford where he showed the salesman the printout and got the computer at the discount. Hammer immediately sent me an e-mail about his experience, and theorized that there must be some kind of dual website at Best Buy stores because he said he had seen both salesmen log on. One Best Buy website that everyone could access and one Best Buy that only the salesmen could access.

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To: streetpreacher
All intranet sites are "secret". That's why they're called "intra" net.

Sure, but when you are trying to turn poor inventory practice into a scandal, the word "secret" really helps.

41 posted on 03/03/2007 1:09:00 PM PST by Mr.Unique (Why did Lloyd Dobler want Diane Court anyway??)
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To: aft_lizard

I've never had trouble like that at Frys. Yes, they've been out of stuff I went for, but they also been in stock with it. Other stuff that they advertised (but I didn't need or want) was also in stock, and I've also found unadvertised deals there as well. So, I don't think they run a bait and switch operation.

Nobody's perfect and with the number of people they hire you WILL get misinformation, but I don't have a problem with Frys.


42 posted on 03/03/2007 1:11:30 PM PST by 1L
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To: Mr.Unique

LOL.

I guess the hospital I worked at with our super secret intranet site was trying to hide our diabolical billing practices from the public.


43 posted on 03/03/2007 1:12:01 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: quidnunc

"Barber insists that the company never intended to mislead customers."

They wanted to mislead the tax man.


44 posted on 03/03/2007 1:13:43 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: gcruse

Maybe the intranet site is updated more frequently than the internet site?


45 posted on 03/03/2007 1:13:58 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Hydroshock
"Barber insists that the company never intended to mislead customers."

Bull crap! And that is exactly what I would have told the salesman. And then I would have threatened to call the local TV news station. This is after I would have contacted the BBB and just about every other consumer organization that I could.

I would have a nice long talk with the store manager about ripping their customers off. I'd let them have it. I'd get my pound of flesh.
46 posted on 03/03/2007 1:14:18 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: VOA

to some extent this is natural selection at work

with the ready availability of the internet, it's not difficult to be an informed consumer

OTOH this kind of bad pub can really hurt a company and greatly overwhelm the extra money they might make on dubious deals

a bright young man I know went to work as a salesman at a large auto dealer (the saintly Toyota no less) and told me that even though he was making a lot of money, he felt so bad about how they were scalping the customer he had to quit


47 posted on 03/03/2007 1:14:22 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: quidnunc
"Our intention is to provide the best price to our customers which is why we have a price-match policy in place," the company said in a written statement to me.

Whenever a business says that it intends "to provide the best price to our customers", it always means that it intends "to provide the best price FOR US to our customers". There are no exceptions.

48 posted on 03/03/2007 1:15:48 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: mountainlyons; quidnunc
Best Buy does not pay their rebates so do not buy there!

Never had a problem getting rebates from them.

Also, have never had a problem getting something at the Internet price; just ordered via Internet, then either had it shipped, or took the printed receipt to the (not so) local store to pick it up.

OTOH, I HATE dealing with their store staff.

Caveat: A lot of stuff I have searched prices on BestBuy.com for is ONLY available online, and small print so-states. Also states that it is NOT available for in-store pick-up in many cases.

I learned long ago that many retailers have a SEPERATE Web business that is in addition to, not part of, their physical business.

49 posted on 03/03/2007 1:16:03 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
TheSpottedOwl wrote: I really want one of those new Kodak printer/scanners, but I believe that BB is the only one that carries them. Maybe I should check out their website *cough*.

Check out Amazon.

They sell computer stuff at good prices and they have always been reliable in my dealings with them.

50 posted on 03/03/2007 1:17:25 PM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Mr.Unique
Sure, but when you are trying to turn poor inventory practice into a scandal, the word "secret" really helps.

I'm hard pressed to see how using a deceptive look-alike web site could be considered a 'poor inventory practice'.

51 posted on 03/03/2007 1:21:22 PM PST by Bob
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To: All

We have a wonderful store right by us called ABT. It's owned and run locally and almost always beats Best Buy etc price wise. They get all our electronic business. If I walked through my house right now you could call it an ABT house. Entire kitchen, all computers, all tvs, all dvd players etc.

I only go to Beast Buy when I'm in the mall the one by me for other reasons is in and I want to check out their music selection. I usually go there because there's a Michaels, a Bed Bath and Beyond, a Petsmart, Chilis, Barnes and Noble. nice theter, a great Jewel (grocery chain) and a Dicks Sporting Goods.


52 posted on 03/03/2007 1:21:39 PM PST by dleecomeback07 (Little darling it's been a long and lonely winter today at 2 spring beegins)
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To: Hydroshock

I occasionally shop at Best Buy, but what I find annoying is that they want to look in your bag and check your receipt prior to leaving the store......

My kids never will go with me because I ALWAYS do this....

As I approach the Security Guard, he attempt to stop me and ask to see my receipt and ask look in my bag. I tell him no....He'll insist that it's a store requirement...I'll respond that once I purchased the merchandise at the register the bag and it's contents are my personal possessions and not subject to a search. However, if he would like to see the receipt and the contents I'll let him peek for $5 bucks.....Cash only....

They've never paid me to date and not delayed me any further....


53 posted on 03/03/2007 1:24:35 PM PST by nevergore (?It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.?)
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To: quidnunc

There was also a recent problem with Best Buy where they were keeping tabs (tracking) of customers who only purchased the loss-leader items. The customer names were placed on a "deadbeat" list.


54 posted on 03/03/2007 1:25:54 PM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: neodad
Scumbags!

They and some media stores do this. If you use a credit card, and during checkout, the checker will ask you if you want a "free" subscription to a popular magazine. Who wouldn't want a free magazine.

They give your credit card number to the magazine company and you don't even know it. They don't tell you that they are giving your credit card number out.

The checkers act very sheepish when you point out that it is a scam. Read somewhere that the employees don't like the scam, but are forced by management to offer it.
55 posted on 03/03/2007 1:26:51 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Bob
I'm hard pressed to see how using a deceptive look-alike web site could be considered a 'poor inventory practice'.

You do know what an "intranet" is, right?

Best Buy doesn't know what the selling price is, or even what they have in inventory. Their "geek squad" has no technical knowledge either. It's just poor business....and a healthy dose of attitude.

56 posted on 03/03/2007 1:27:08 PM PST by Mr.Unique (Why did Lloyd Dobler want Diane Court anyway??)
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To: OldFriend
I just bought a piece of hobby software through the internet, and printed off the receipt. The next night, I get a email confirmation, and they are charging me for the "free gift". Not that the "incentive to purchase" had any influence, but come on. The selection said "free", and what they showed me before I confirmed.

Any way, I fired off an email asking for a correction and confirmation of the charge correction.

Methinks their enterprise-wide system has a hole in it.

If not, I'll go through the hassle of sending the stuff back when it arrives, my handling and shipping be damned.

57 posted on 03/03/2007 1:29:14 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: quidnunc
"intranet site, which looks identical to the Internet site, but does not always show the lowest price"

If it's an "intranet" site, that's their business; why would they be accountable to a consumer for what is on their internal site?

Also my experience with Best Buy is they have pricing differences online vs local retail stores. I have no problem with that if it's disclosed that way.

The local store I dealt with was not happy that their own on line store was undercutting them in price.
58 posted on 03/03/2007 1:30:57 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: quidnunc
Just be really careful with Amazon since they link in stuff that is not sold directly by Amazon.

My wife bought a DVD from Amazon that was PAL and not NTSC. And then there is the zone issue.

PAL is the European video format standard and NTSC is US. You cannot play PAL DVDs on a US DVD player.

My wife is fairly technical and the Amazon web site was confusing. We bought the DVD from a third party.

Returning the DVD to England would have cost more than what we paid for it. I gave it to a friend of mine who has family in England.
59 posted on 03/03/2007 1:33:34 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: nctexan

Hmm, I've noticed that one of my favourite stores lately will have certain items on the website on sale wile the store will still have it at full price or selling at a higher sale price. They don't go by prices on the website, though, they go by what the store price is.


60 posted on 03/03/2007 1:33:49 PM PST by psjones (u)
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