Obligatory Ann Coulter post
Posted on 03/09/2007 11:12:02 AM PST by nancyvideo
One of the major differences between liberals and conservatives is that liberals are much more susceptible to group think. Most on the left are content to accept the prevailing leftist talking points as their own without questioning any of the intellectual underpinnings of said argument. (Think global warming..)
Conservatives, on the other hand, are more likely to rely on the substance and facts of a debate instead of drawing their conclusions based on 'consensus' and 'feelings'. At least that used to be so.
Enter Ann Coulter.
(Excerpt) Read more at rightbias.com ...
I don't really have any feelings about Coulter her self but it is an important free speech issue.
--I have no problem with standing up for her-nor for my practise of referring to the political party of criminals, cheats, thieves and traitors as the "Demotraitors"---
From a personal perspective, what she said was just good ol'fashioned tacky. I don't support any kind of potty mouth especially when it lowers the discussion into the gutter. I support her other stances but I don't support tacky potty mouths.
We cannot afford to keep shooting at each other, much less at our wounded...
Stand by her for what?
Seriously, she said something stupid for the shock value, just like she always does.. She's the Howard Stern of these book writing pundents for the right.
She's free to speak her mind, but I am under no obligation to defend her for her own boorish behavior. Will she get a fair shake in the press? Of course not, but she knows that, she's a big girl.
I'm with you on that...I never bashed Ann per se but thought she picked a lousy place to do it....I don't care one iota if she writes it in a book or wants to pontificate on Hannity & Colmes....
That said, I think the critical reaction from all corners developed into something ridiculous. One would have thought Ann used the far more vulgar four letter F-word.
And I support her 100%
I have heard no one criticize her right to free speech.
But there is a time and place for everything. Her faggot joke was at the wrong time, in the wrong place.
IMHO
>>I have heard no one criticize her right to free speech.
But there is a time and place for everything. Her faggot joke was at the wrong time, in the wrong place.
IMHO<<
I forgot to add, self-serving and inconsiderate of the setting.
I don't see why this is a hill to fight and die on.
She made a joke about political correctness and running off to rehab to fix yourself. Just so happens that when she thinks of John Edwards she thinks of Faggots. Just Annie thinking out-loud again.
Amen! That was excellent.
I stand by Ann Coulter. Sometimes I disagree with her, but I still stand by her. She is so bright and forceful, and we need people such as she is. And if he is not one of those bundles of twigs, who is?
Have you ever really listened to Howard Stern? There is no comparison between he and Ann. He is the KING of lowdown, disgusting and vulgar. Talk about the use of hyperbole...
I generally agree with the article. But personally, I draw the line with the use of vulgarity....
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Ann was not being vulgar. She was being real and colloquial. It does not bother me at all and it was just an opportunity for the gay-pander left to harp on one of their most notable and correct critics. That is all it was and she has my full support and kudos for calling a "spade a spade"...it fit and it was applied. Good for her.
Free speech is great. But the are consequences for saying something particularly stupid. She's notorious for her "Shock value", sometimes those who get a kick out of being shocking get a kick in the ass, deservedly so. Nobody can take away her right to say whatever she wants, but the response to her remarks is also free speech.
The right IS standing by Ann. It's only people like Bill O'Reilly, McCain, Rudy and their bots on here that aren't. Oh, they'll "defend her right to say it", but they'll complain about her "venue for saying it" and how it is "tacky" and "potty mouth". Fact is that it is a Rohrshach test to see where you fit in the political spectrum. Defend Ann, and you're on the right, condemn her, and you're not. Simple as that.
Tommy Dale, that is a good one, and thank you!
Why should anyone defend Coulter? She is all about herself. She can defend herself.
I couldn't agree more. The left always stands behind their people - no matter what they do. This is one reason (among many) that we're better.
Faggot jokes are always good, anywhere - especially when directed at members of the democrat party. And when directed at Silky Pony, they are more of a statement than a joke.
I don't think she should have specifically used THAT word, but I support her for everything. She's awesome.
Okay, in that case I apologize for the "short bus" joke! LOL!
I don't care much for attention whores...conservative or otherwise.
Exactly.
She has the right to say what she likes, and we have the right to comment on it.
I know I am. Just goes to show we, as conservatives, aren't quite as smart as we think we are, collectively. So many miss her allusion to the FACT that certain words, thanks to Political Correctness, are off limits and that if one uses them, they must enter rehab.
Nevermind that we let the left define what is acceptable and what isn't.
She does own this issue and she's paying for it. She's a big girl and she will survive with or without me.
Personally the word has become increasingly distatefull to me as I've grown older.
It is certainly not for use in a public venue such as CPAC. But comparatively, it is a relatively minor offense and I am not going to crucify Ann for it.
Bulimic or not, that picture of her somebody posted on this thread made my eyes bulge.
We are faced with invasion across our borders, innocent people being jailed, war, terrorism, etc. - and people go into a frenzy over a word! This is absurd. While Ann has been called far worse, that apparently is okay. The left/liberals are hypocrites and so full of rage that they appear to lose touch with reality.
I fully agree. Republicans continually set themselves up for attacks from the left by abandoning their own. Ann's joke was a bit sophmoric for the C-PAC audience, but they could have pointed that out and laughed it off. But no, they have to get all up tight, embarrassed and offended.
It amuses me that Ann Coulter delivered a premeditated bombastic statement, intended to shock and draw attention to herself (which it did), she is benefitting immensely from it, and she is now portrayed as the "victim?"
Give me a break.
Inferring Edwards is a faggot while making a joke when in fact there is no proof nor allegations he is a gay was the only issue I had. Nonetheless, I'm pleased with her speech, and cannot care less about the sensitive souls in the MSM.
That's right. We have to be smarter than the bear. We can't give them any ammunition.
The DIMS have given a whole new meaning to down and dirty. they have vilified and bashed Bush unceaseingly and hen go ballistic when Coulter allludes to their behavior.
Her statement wasn't about Edwards proclivities but about the Politically Correct environment where Freedom of Speech is denied anyone who vents!
Go Ann I support you!
>>I support her without condition.. no matter what she says no matter how she says it. Without hearing what she says and without knowing the context in which it was said, I would support her at any time in anything! <<
Okely dokely.
Someone please explain to me in what sense that "joke" was supposed to be funny?
I have been a big fan of Ann's since the day I first saw her on cable during the Clinton scandal. And I think it wasn't the right venue for the remark, though to me almost anywhere would be the wrong venue for the remark, some places more than others.
I have responded to these threads with my honest opinion about it because it was such a hot topic for discussion. But frankly, I do wish the right would have kept quiet about it and not have assisted the left in their dirty work.
The left can make a sneeze coming from a conservative seem like a horrible deed.
Oh, but she uttered the "F" word and all the "conservatives" on FR are in a tither about it. Look, a lot of us on the forum don't seem to understand there are subversives on this very site.
They're here and you can bank on that. Does anyone think about what the subversive TROLLS would say about any of this Ann/Edwards/faggot thing? THats right. They "voted for Bush...twice, they support her right to say it, but she is just in in for herself...is a media hound"...and anything else that disprupts the forum and gets REAL conservatives fighting amoungst themselves, just like you see on this very thread. But you apparently get it Young'un.
The litmus test for conservatism now is whether you criticize or applaud Ann Coulter's joke.
I see.
" I draw the line with the use of vulgarity,"
It wasn't used as vulgarity and that's the point Ann was trying to make
Coulter is a disgrace. Using the term she used & in the way she used it is a awful.
There are plenty of very good conservative journalists and critics out there. Articulate people with reasoned ideas that don't resort to gutter nonsense. Bob Novak, Peggy Noonan and David Brooks instantly come to mind. As to people like Bill Kristol, Bill Buckley and Pat Buchanan. These people have real ideas that mean something to true conservatives.
Coulter brand of made for tabloid politics is the equivalent of political porn. It is nasty. I suspect it plays well with 19 year old boys at the fraternity house.
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