[tcrlaf]

The Hummer is more enviromentally friendly than a Prius! ROTFLMAO!!!!

[OESY]

Luckily, the Environmental Offset to buying a Prius is buying a Hummer.

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[timydnuc]

My Chevy Colorado consistently gets an average of 22mpg. I do more highway driving than city. But, I get the same average every time I do the numbers (I'm a scientist, and those numbers are spot on...not the EPA, that is all over the charts). It's an in-line Isuzu 5 cylinder that is 300 Hp. I'm a very happy camper with this pick up truck. It sits like a big truck, it drives like a car, and it hauls like a BIG truck. 4WD and a 5 speed auto transmission. I've had it for almost 2 years and I love it. I used to go for little foreign sports cars, till I needed a vehicle that could work like a field hand, and my old "silver" can do that.

This idea that we need these cars is BS, what we need is access to oil fields that produce, right here. Refineries that produce the amount of gasoline that is needed, and more. We need a federal government that stays out of a free market on energy. We need less moonbats and more engineers, but the University system seems to want to produce more moonbats and less engineers. If we change that problem we have it made, but not for at least 20 years. Until then we will have to wipe the Prius goo off the back tires of our "pickumuptrucks".

[ApplegateRanch]

All these people are taking the wrong approach, if they want clean running vehicles.

Solar powered, external combustion steam power is the ticket.

Put a black, triple expansion flash boiler in the bed of an F-350, and attach a battery powered gimbals mounted, self-aiming magnifying glass to almost focus the sun on the boiler, since we don't want to burn a hole in it.

A 1,000 gallon water tender trailer would complete the ensemble.

In an emergency, to could even double as a fire apparatus.

Now, if there were just some way to drive it at night....

[Schichtel]

I LOVE MY PRIUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sergio]

Paging Mr. Begley. Paging Mr. Ed Begley Jr.

[VOA]

I loved the way the liberal press (e.g., The Los Angeles Times) did
NOT do an analysis on the liberal's darling uber-conveyance,
the General Motors EV-1.

I suspect the environmental damage done when one EV-1 burned to
the axles was greater than the emissions by 10 Ford F-250s over their
useful lifetimes.

[ken21]

it is a good laugh!

the arrogant attitude of many prius owners deserves rebuttal.

[mad_as_he$$]

Great article! It dings Pious and as an added benefit Canada. The snobs there call us evil but they are the biggest source of acid rain in Norde Americanos.

[Aquinasfan]

Can we finally build the breeder reactors?

[NCLaw441]

I have a Prius. I don't care about environmental issues that much (not that I want to hurt the environment, I just don't think man has that much influence. We flatter ourselves.). I just wanted a car that was reasonably roomy, under $25K and got good mileage. I average around 49 mpg overall. I got the car in November 2004, and now have about 80K miles on it. I believe I have recouped the cost differential many miles ago, and have had a good time with this car. My only regret? Getting mistaken for an enviro whacko. When I am commended for my environmental consciousness I am quick to tell people that I really don't care about that stuff.

As for the nickel plant and other claims in the article, assuming they are true-- I don't care. Those problems appear to be in Canada, China and Japan, countries who chose to have those problems. I live the US.

[cyberaxe]

The Hummer is more enviromentally friendly than a Prius! ROTFLMAO!!!!

.....ha ha ha.....

.....with about 100k miles on it.....

.....I'm about 1/3 of the way through doing my part for the environment.....

.....(snicker, snicker).....

[N. Theknow]

There was a thread when the Prius first came out about a man in the Midwest who got a vanity plate that read "Mo Miles" to go on his Prius.

He was pegged at 100% on the Liberal-Smug-o-meter.

Then reality hit and he found that the mileage claims were Clintonesque.

[Grampa Dave]

Great stuff. I just sent this to a Cal Berkley grad, who is on her second Prius.

[nutmeg]

ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

[OESY]

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[voltaires_zit]

The author's expected life numbers for both the Prius and the Hummer are ridiculous.

Toyota warrants the batteries in a Prius for 8 years/100,000 miles.

The powertrain warranty on a Hummer is 5 years/100,000 miles.

Assuming that the engineers at Toyota are not substantially dumber than the engineers at GM (a VERY safe assumption), the batteries on the Prius will give out about the same time as the engine needs to be rebuilt on the Hummer.

(Note: new batteries cost MUCH less than the engine rebuild, less than $2000)

[Stultis]

Since when did an "environmentalist" care about the facts? (I think that would have been sometime around the early 70's, if then.)

[Coleus]

great article!

they should go back to making an olds 98 and an electra 225.

[Squawk 8888]

The nickel is mined and smelted at a plant in Sudbury, Ontario. This plant has caused so much environmental damage to the surrounding environment that NASA has used the ‘dead zone’ around the plant to test moon rovers.

Having visited Sudbury frequently and lived there briefly, I can categorically state that the author has wildly overstated the environmental impact of the INCO smelter. NASA used the region to train the Apollo astronauts because the terrain has always been rocky, but there's still plenty of greenery in and around the city.

[Jotmo]

Many of us have been saying almost the exact same thing in regards to the economics of Hybrids and their batteries being an environmental disaster for years.

And many, even here on FR, have dismissed us.

Glad to have it confirmed.

Will they listen now?